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Aphrodite posted:Sorry guys, every Wally fan is bad now. You're all tainted by association with this guy. I think I just won dumb internet comment bingo.
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Aphrodite posted:Sorry guys, every Wally fan is bad now. You're all tainted by association with this guy. I kind of want Wally West Classic to die now just to ruin this guy's day.
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Aug 28, 2016 06:31
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DC totally has it out for their older fans. The "we make comics for 45-year olds" quote? Misdirection. 
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Aug 28, 2016 07:51
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As a millennial, two characters sharing a name confuses the absolute gently caress out of me. Comics that came out when I was actually into reading comics never featured this before, especially not with a title shared between a straight white man hero, and another hero that is not a straight white man.
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Aug 28, 2016 08:25
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Did that guy honest use the term Blackwashing?  This new era of DC is just up its rear end with character doubles isn't it. Superbro+SuperDad+Super-Ming. It's like Batman Inc but more lazy.
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Aug 28, 2016 08:26
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I mean... the fact it's two dudes with literally the exact same name is kind of silly, but lets be honest, there was at one point 3 heroes all using the name "The Flash" and 5+ all using "Green Lantern" I think we can deal.
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Aug 28, 2016 10:35
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Aphrodite posted:Sorry guys, every Wally fan is bad now. You're all tainted by association with this guy. don't doxx alucard nacirema
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Aug 28, 2016 17:50
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FilthyImp posted:Did that guy honest use the term Blackwashing? So the moment when the crisis happened and we had two flashes? bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Aug 28, 2016 |
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Aug 28, 2016 18:26
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Wasn't too sure about this Jonboy Meyers go based on his covers, but dang that preview has a lot of energy and some good color. Cannot loving believe I'm looking forward to a Teen Titans comic.
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Aug 28, 2016 18:31
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Isn't the new Kid Flash going by Wallace? He isn't a conservative ginger kid from Nebraska, so Wally doesn't quite work for him.
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Aug 28, 2016 18:50
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Onmi posted:I mean... the fact it's two dudes with literally the exact same name is kind of silly, but lets be honest, there was at one point 3 heroes all using the name "The Flash" and 5+ all using "Green Lantern" To be fair, those are code names, and Black Wally was originally intended to be the exact same guy. But also, this guy is dumb as poo poo.
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Aug 28, 2016 19:14
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No he wasn't.
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Aug 28, 2016 19:16
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I can't wait for CoIE II in 2019.
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Aug 28, 2016 20:00
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Jack of Hearts posted:I can't wait for CoIE II in 2019. The working title for Infinite Crisis was COIE2 so they already did that.
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Aug 28, 2016 22:29
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Dario the Wop posted:Isn't the new Kid Flash going by Wallace? He isn't a conservative ginger kid from Nebraska, so Wally doesn't quite work for him. He's only been called Wally by everyone except that one cop who discharged him from juvenile hall.
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Aug 28, 2016 22:41
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Rhyno posted:The working title for Infinite Crisis was COIE2 so they already did that. I can't wait for CoIE III in 2019.
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Aug 28, 2016 22:53
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Jack of Hearts posted:I can't wait for CoIE III in 2019. I'm more excited for CoIE V in late 2019.
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Aug 29, 2016 00:16
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Where's Wallace, Osterman?
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Aug 29, 2016 00:34
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Squizzle posted:I'm more excited for CoIE V in late 2019. Crisis 5 was way better than Crisis V.
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Aug 29, 2016 00:47
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Jack of Hearts posted:I can't wait for CoIE III & Knuckles Turbo: Revenge of the Meta-Knight in 2019.
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Aug 29, 2016 01:00
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I do earnestly want that, though. I am just way too stupid to understand DC continuity as it stands, so I'm hoping they hurry up and collapse the multiverse again sometime soon.
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Aug 29, 2016 05:32
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Jack of Hearts posted:I can't wait for CoIE III in 2019. Reverse Countdown to Crisis Rebirth will decimate everything with it's GIANT PURPLE DEATH RAY!!!!
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Aug 29, 2016 07:20
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I kinda hope DC does events like how they've handled Rebirth from now on. One major event in a single issue special, and then we see the after effects across all their comics.
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Aug 29, 2016 07:30
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Rhyno posted:Crisis 5 was way better than Crisis V. Crisis Times Five was a great story. It's the one where the JLA teams up with the JSA and Captain Marvel to fight five-dimensional reality-warping imps (and also As far as Grant Morrison JLA stories go, I like it better than Rock of Ages or World War III.
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Aug 29, 2016 14:43
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Wheat Loaf posted:Crisis Times Five was a great story. It's the one where the JLA teams up with the JSA and Captain Marvel to fight five-dimensional reality-warping imps (and also I still think that the Wisdom of Solomon should have made Captain Marvel especially helpful in containing rogue genies. 
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Aug 29, 2016 17:38
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Wheat Loaf posted:Crisis Times Five was a great story. It's the one where the JLA teams up with the JSA and Captain Marvel to fight five-dimensional reality-warping imps (and also  This is the best Justice League arc, no doubt.   Also, this post reminds me that we all live in the timeline where Tom Peyer's Hourman still hasn't been collected. We hosed up.
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Aug 30, 2016 00:25
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Aphrodite posted:Sorry guys, every Wally fan is bad now. You're all tainted by association with this guy. Holy poo poo that was racist as gently caress.  Like I seriously hope white Wally dies forever now. I'm so tired of the racism. Iris is black in the TV show and movies now. They need to bite the bullet and make the West's black in every continuity. Koalas March fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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Aug 30, 2016 01:18
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The problem isn't that Wally West is/was black in the N52, it's that he was a totally, completely different person - and kind of an rear end in a top hat - and happened to have a legacy character's name whose last official appearance was Geoff Johns erasing him from existence. And the only reason this kid had that name was DC doing a really lovely, sort of immature temper-tantrum-ish half-step when DC fans kept on bitching to them about Wally West no longer existing in the N52 continuity, and he was very clearly set up from the start to replace Wally West as The New Wally West. N52 Wally West is this total loving minefield where there's very definitely a non-racist way to complain about how he was implemented and the subtext within which he was presented to the fanbase - "Hey, stop whining about Wally West being gone, we're gonna present a version of the character who in no way whatsoever resembles what you liked about Wally West, never mind his race, and for a couple of years we're gonna push him as the new, permanent, forever canon Wally West until sales get so low we're gonna retcon him to being Real Wally West's cousin and more or less pretend he doesn't exist any more". The problem is that idiots like that dumbshit make it so criticizing N52 Wally West gets you painted as a racist, whether rightly or wrongly. Personally, DC could've solved this little problem by not giving him Wally West's name, because that creates reasonable expectations for the character which he didn't, in any way, live up to and justifiably pissed off non-racist Wally fans. And considering that across the pond Marvel successfully pulled off creating a new black Spider-Man with Miles Morales, and to a lesser extent DC itself pulled off a new black Robin with Duke Thomas, it's very possible to create a character wholecloth with legacy abilities. The Wally West name was an albatross around N52 Wally's neck and shouldn't have been done, especially considering it sorta came off as DC throwing a metatextual tantrum that everyone didn't immediately glom onto Barry Allen forever.
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Aug 30, 2016 01:37
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Wally was pretty good in the latest Flash issue and seems fine in the TT preview so I look forward to people shutting up about this "problem" that's frankly pretty much fixed at this point.
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Aug 30, 2016 01:55
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N52 Wally is in and of himself is racist, being a black guy who's power is to run fast, has a deadbeat dad, and is the Kid Flash.
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Aug 30, 2016 02:07
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They could have just had old Wally's essence merge with New Wally or something.
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Aug 30, 2016 02:08
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Toxxupation posted:The problem isn't that Wally West is/was black in the N52 Actually, going to stop you there because there is no problem and we don't have to defend the crazy racist's point.
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Aug 30, 2016 02:23
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Aphrodite posted:Actually, going to stop you there because there is no problem and we don't have to defend the crazy racist's point. I was addressing Koalas March, not defending the racist.
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Aug 30, 2016 02:24
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There are legitimate reasons to dislike/not gel with new Wally in the comics, but unfortunately it's getting drowned out in the racism. I'd say there's legit reasons not to like the TV version too, except, honestly aside from "wrong side of the tracks, illegal street races" I don't think that there are because they essentially gave Barry a good chunk of Wally's personality. I'd like to see TV Wally be more fun (he's already cocky, and I like that) but at this point I'm worried viewers would think he's a Barry clone and not understand that no, that's Wally. Barry was kinda boring first. Idk I don't think I'm explaining this well, I hope y'all get the jist. Aside from Francine being an addict, I think that the TV West's are kinda superior. Like you could have Francine have disappeared because she had to go to the future or any comic book nonsense and it would be better than Wally is a hoodlum with a deadbeat dad. But I really like TV Joe and Iris so I'm biased. Koalas March fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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Aug 30, 2016 02:26
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The biggest reason to dislike TV Wally is that the actor isn't very good.
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Aug 30, 2016 02:28
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X-O posted:The biggest reason to dislike TV Wally is that the actor isn't very good. This.
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Aug 30, 2016 02:31
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X-O posted:The biggest reason to dislike TV Wally is that the actor isn't very good. He is fine, I just don't think they give him much to do. I really would be liked to see Alfie Allen in the role though, ngl. Maybe for the movies.....
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Aug 30, 2016 02:31
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No, he's not not really fine. TV Iris on the other hand is severely underutilized and manages to do good stuff with the almost nothing that is given to her.
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Aug 30, 2016 02:32
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X-O posted:No, he's not not really fine. TV Iris on the other hand is severely underutilized and manages to do good stuff with the almost nothing that is given to her. I can definitely agree with this. Candice spins nothing into adorable gold. They need to step up the writing for her character. Iris is supposed to be the leading lady and a pivotal character but for whatever reason the writers want to keep the lovely Will They Won't They CW relationship drama. All the good Barry/Iris stuff happens after they hook up. And it's not like couples don't have problems and tribulations. I hope they don't give Iris the Laurel treatment. She's too good and it would throw away so much. 
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Candace Patton is friggin adorable and when they want to they have plenty of chemistry. It's just that they don't give her and Grant anything to work with at all. Joe and Cisco get better scenes together.
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