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Somfin posted:It's the progressives' fault tho. We drove out all the moderate people who were part of the anti-women rape-threat cult of personality. Now the only people left in the anti-women rape-threat cult of personality are meanies. I hope we're happy. Remember how if we totally hadn't antagonized hitler he would have just stopped at the english channel and all the jews wouldn't have been exterminated???
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The Vosgian Beast posted:He links this http://heatst.com/tech/chat-logs-expose-crash-override-network-as-online-bullies/ The annoying thing is those logs are unlikely to be fake, but does he really have nothing better than something from 2 years ago featuring a pariah like Randi Harper? Also did a double-take when I saw a Tesseract in those logs. 
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Tesseraction posted:The annoying thing is those logs are unlikely to be fake, but does he really have nothing better than something from 2 years ago featuring a pariah like Randi Harper? If you read between the lines of the logs, you start to see the protocols of the elders of zion slowly appear
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quote:Other YouTubers like the popular atheist commentators Sargon of Akkad and Thunderf00t and media critic MundaneMatt, also were subjects of discussion because of CON member Rob Marmolejo’s personal beef with them. Yes the only reason anyone would ever dislike a gentle kind soul such as Sargon is a personal beef
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quote:Additionally, members of CON conspired to sabotage the charity stream of feminist charity The Fine Young Capitalists, which needed funds to develop an independent video game. Uh huh 
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quote:Interestingly, members of CON can be seen admitting that some of the harassment, trolling and death threats attributed to GamerGate are not even from the movement’s supporters. After the 2015 Paris terror attack, and long after I was no longer a member, GamerGate was blamed for portraying CON member Veerender Jubbal as a wanted terrorist with a photoshopped image. You uh, you didn't really connect those two ideas in any way other than just putting them next to each other buddy. They were blamed with that because they did that. quote:GamerGate supporters have long suspected that collusion between the press and individuals opposed to the movement was at play. It may sound like a tinfoil hat conspiracy at first glance, but the chat logs reveal that Crash Override Network had ties to games journalist websites like Polygon. Despite the group’s relationship with the media, Zoe Quinn expressed disdain for a Boston Magazine reporter who asked her difficult questions, and attempted to suppress the publication of his story. Ahahahaha yes actually it's about ethics in games journalism of course
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The bottom line here is that even if there is an unethical collusion of game creators and gaming journalism that's rampant in the industry, it's not actually sane to devote yourself to fighting injustice in reviews of Grand Theft Auto to the degree anyone who describes themselves as Gamergate did. Like the dirty secret is that even if Zoe Quinn hosed someone to get a good review of her game, it really isn't worth getting angry about for more than five minutes, let alone years
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Aug 29, 2016 00:56
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The Vosgian Beast posted:The bottom line here is that even if there is an unethical collusion of game creators and gaming journalism that's rampant in the industry, it's not actually sane to devote yourself to fighting injustice in reviews of Grand Theft Auto to the degree anyone who describes themselves as Gamergate did. But if I can't trust the fine people of IGN when they give the new Carl on Duty: Black Cops a 9.5 then who will I ignore the advice of and buy the game anyway regardless of the score then??
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Aug 29, 2016 01:07
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:But if I can't trust the fine people of IGN when they give the new Carl on Duty: Black Cops a 9.5 then who will I ignore the advice of and buy the game anyway regardless of the score then?? That's not the issue, don't reduce it to a cheap joke. It's a nefarious conspiracy lead by two of the most influential feminists leaders, Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarcasminin, and their SJW goons. I mean, how else do you explain a game like Undertale being more popular than Hatred?
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Like the dirty secret is that even if Zoe Quinn hosed someone to get a good review of her game, it really isn't worth getting angry about for more than five minutes, let alone years You don't understand. She was having sex!
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Aug 29, 2016 02:49
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MizPiz posted:That's not the issue, don't reduce it to a cheap joke. It's a nefarious conspiracy lead by two of the most influential feminists leaders, Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarcasminin, and their SJW goons. I mean, how else do you explain a game like Undertale being more popular than Hatred? I still love the salty tears shed by GameFaqs when Undertale took the top spot for best game ever despite users botting against it
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Is gamergate still going on? What are all the harassment all-stars up to these days? I know Professor Skull had a hate erection for the new Ghostbusters and was arguing that there was a conspiracy to have it get press attention and good reviews.
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Jack Gladney posted:Is gamergate still going on? What are all the harassment all-stars up to these days? I know Professor Skull had a hate erection for the new Ghostbusters and was arguing that there was a conspiracy to have it get press attention and good reviews. r/KotakuInAction is still active, although looking through the front page, it looks like a lot of it is generic  SJWs! stuff that isn't really GamerGate specific, and a lot of the specifically GamerGate stuff is reminiscing more than a present-tense call to arms.Edit: Huh, it comes out as "SJWs" instead of "robocops" now.
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Silver2195 posted:r/KotakuInAction is still active, although looking through the front page, it looks like a lot of it is generic sjw
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:god you know what's awesome loving sick my dude
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Aug 29, 2016 07:57
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Tesseraction posted:Also did a double-take when I saw a Tesseract in those logs. They're pretty sure it's you. Mind you, they seem to think I'm in them too, if I understand their Twitter gibberings correctly - apparently they're evidence of something at Rationalwiki because Ryulong. By the way, it's important to remember that not even the halfway plausible claims GG makes have any truth to them at all. It's fractally bullshit all the way down. List of Gamergate claims with reality-based rebuttals. The Vosgian Beast posted:The fight ended with Pax backing off and Matt needing to spend some serious money on aloe ahaha holy poo poo, when a lawyer straight-up calls you a child-raping sex offender. I wonder if Matt will dare sue.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:The bottom line here is that even if there is an unethical collusion of game creators and gaming journalism that's rampant in the industry, it's not actually sane to devote yourself to fighting injustice in reviews of Grand Theft Auto to the degree anyone who describes themselves as Gamergate did. I agree with Phil Sandifer: Gamergate seems like they want reviews to be exclusively buying guides, no critical analysis allowed. They seem to argue that even having favorite games is a little lame. I doubt they seriously believe any of this, because literally no gamer on Earth thinks like that: would anyone play games if they didn't get a little irrational, emotional, personal kick out of it? Does anyone seriously believe that this personal experience with games (or anything else) should be a taboo? Can a review ever be "objective"? I'll take advantage of the fact that Gamergate seems to have died down to finally say: I didn't like Depression Quest. Choices being unavailable due to depression draining your energy was a cute gimmick that I 100% identified with (witness my E/N walls of text from when I was deep in the hole), but I really disliked the rest. It has an unpleasant scolding tone throughout, even in the "best" ending, and there's clearly a "right" way to play it where every deviation earns you disdain from the game. I'll even admit that, the way I felt like at the time, the idea that my character was in a relationship felt preposterous and a little insulting. I think it could have connected with more people if it had been a little bit better thought out, but "indie game" seems to mean "abandoned forever in a half baked state once the point has been made" so let's just forget about it On the other hand I liked Gone Home a lot. I just think the father had a more interesting story than the sister did anyone realize that his obsession with the JFK assassination was actually his way of working through the trauma of being molested (?) around the time of the assassination by his crazy uncle? because I didn't but I read an article that made a very good case for it. And what exactly happened, why did he have to live so many years at his uncle's, sleeping in the servant's quarters?. Sadly it seems it was kind of a flop hackbunny has a new favorite as of 12:48 on Aug 29, 2016 |
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Aug 29, 2016 12:31
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The Vosgian Beast posted:An Irishman has been bayoneted by a British soldier, and as the Mick dies slowly in a ditch the Brit kicks him over and over, cursing him and wishing him a painful, slow death. With his last breath the Irishman asks, “Why are you so angry at us?” The Brit leans down, whispers, “You swine, we will NEVER forgive you for what we’ve done to you.” I always liked that story.
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Well there is collusion and coercion by games companies to get good reviews for their games. The thing is that all of this is done either by companies like SquarEnix, Activision, and Ubisoft controlling access to major event games or little studios like Digital Homicide who will harass the poo poo out of the few reviewers who bother to give negative reviews. Somehow neither of these types of companies are the ones targeted by gamergate. Almost like some people just don't care enough about ethics in games journalism.hackbunny posted:On the other hand I liked Gone Home a lot. I just think the father had a more interesting story than the sister did anyone realize that his obsession with the JFK assassination was actually his way of working through the trauma of being molested (?) around the time of the assassination by his crazy uncle? because I didn't but I read an article that made a very good case for it. And what exactly happened, why did he have to live so many years at his uncle's, sleeping in the servant's quarters?. Sadly it seems it was kind of a flop
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Jack Gladney posted:Is gamergate still going on? What are all the harassment all-stars up to these days? I know Professor Skull had a hate erection for the new Ghostbusters and was arguing that there was a conspiracy to have it get press attention and good reviews. Can't speak for the internet at large, but it only pops up at SA when someone has an axe to grind. "Don't talk about gamergate" rapidly became "talk about gamergate all the time but only if you bring it up in PYF". Like Milo it thrives only when people are daft enough to give it attention.
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hackbunny posted:I'll take advantage of the fact that Gamergate seems to have died down to finally say: I didn't like Depression Quest. Good news, you don't have to like a game shitheads disliked to not be a shithead.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Well there is collusion and coercion by games companies to get good reviews for their games. The thing is that all of this is done either by companies like SquarEnix, Activision, and Ubisoft controlling access to major event games or little studios like Digital Homicide who will harass the poo poo out of the few reviewers who bother to give negative reviews. Somehow neither of these types of companies are the ones targeted by gamergate. Almost like some people just don't care enough about ethics in games journalism. When my semi-gator friend first told me about what the Sinful Kotaku had done against the Gamer Race I was like "but game companies do that all the time..." and he went "well yeah it's expected from big game studios, we just sort of live with it, but this is the first time that indie games were shown to be doing it too and we thought they were better than this :C"
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Like Giant Bomb was literally created because it's founder was fired from Gamespot for daring to give a mediocre review to a SquarEnix game.
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Pope Guilty posted:Well hell, maybe the alt-right publicity will sell some Neoreaction A Basilisk ebooks. Is there actually any way to legally buy a Neoreaction A Basilisk ebook? I quite want to read it, but missed the Kickstarter like an idiot. I would ask Sandifer himself if I hadn't repeatedly insulted him online.
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hackbunny posted:Sadly it seems it was kind of a flop Really? I was under the impression it did pretty well for the kind of small-budgeted indie game it was and it seems to have done well enough for the studio that made it to come back with
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divabot posted:They're pretty sure it's you. Mind you, they seem to think I'm in them too, if I understand their Twitter gibberings correctly - apparently they're evidence of something at Rationalwiki because Ryulong. Oh. Huh. Well at least I know I'm pissing them off without actually doing anything. I mean my associations with ShitRedditSays are real but that's a different person to me. At ShitRedditSays we were only involved in
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Tesseraction posted:Oh. Huh. Well at least I know I'm pissing them off without actually doing anything. Something something poisoning the pure free market of ideas that is Reddit with your SJW mod infiltrators something
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Something something poisoning the pure free market of ideas that is Reddit with your SJW mod infiltrators something    Never stops being funny.
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MizPiz posted:That's not the issue, don't reduce it to a cheap joke. It's a nefarious conspiracy lead by two of the most influential feminists leaders, Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarcasminin, and their SJW goons. I mean, how else do you explain a game like Undertale being more popular than Hatred? vegetables posted:Is there actually any way to legally buy a Neoreaction A Basilisk ebook? I quite want to read it, but missed the Kickstarter like an idiot. I would ask Sandifer himself if I hadn't repeatedly insulted him online.
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vegetables posted:Is there actually any way to legally buy a Neoreaction A Basilisk ebook? I quite want to read it, but missed the Kickstarter like an idiot. I would ask Sandifer himself if I hadn't repeatedly insulted him online. pookel posted:I feel like Phil is the kind of person who'd happily send you a copy for $5 even if you're his mortal enemy. Wouldn't hurt to ask, anyway. I think "wait until 2017" is presently the correct answer. There's a bootleg on LibGen, not sure which draft.
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Jack Gladney posted:Is gamergate still going on? What are all the harassment all-stars up to these days? I know Professor Skull had a hate erection for the new Ghostbusters and was arguing that there was a conspiracy to have it get press attention and good reviews. Because Google thinks I wanna see this crap because I visited KotakuInAction a few times I got this article recommened to me: http://theralphretort.com/totalbiscuit-and-the-attempted-ethics-only-hijacking-of-gamergate-8027016/ It'll never loving die apparently. And the author there seems to think TB didn't harass people enough or something?? And apparently transphobia isn't real as well??? Also, Ctrl+F for cu'ck, only 19 results. I'm surprised. I'm actually not sure who Professor Skull refers to. MundaneMatt or Aurini? I mentioned earlier but I think Matt has done at least 20 videos about the new Ghostbusters, probably closer to thirty. Tracula has a new favorite as of 17:49 on Aug 29, 2016 |
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Jack Gladney posted:Is that the TotalBiscuit who used to post on SA? Same guy. I'm not a big fan of him and he's done some obviously lovely stuff but he's really done what he can to distance himself from that one post everyone likes to throw around, he's admitted how loving stupid that was.
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Tracula posted:Same guy. I'm not a big fan of him and he's done some obviously lovely stuff but he's really done what he can to distance himself from that one post everyone likes to throw around, he's admitted how loving stupid that was. Nope. Gotta see that post. What was it?
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http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2634792 It's in the gas chamber. I don't know if you need archives or not for it. And a pastebin of it incase you do: http://pastebin.com/1b67fMPQ
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Terrible Opinions posted:Gone Home suffers from a lack of actual proper critique. It has a lot going on but a lot of positive reviews just deal with a very surface level reading of it and most negative reviews just go "not a game lol". Oh yeah, I was so disappointed by how hard it flopped, how little was said about the game itself for all the noise the controversy around it had made. It didn't even generate much of a fandom, I was so looking forward to fan theories, speculation etc. but in fact I couldn't even find a full, proper timeline. Maybe I'll make one GunnerJ posted:Good news, you don't have to like a game shitheads disliked to not be a shithead. You kid but the topic was literally untouchable in the early stage of Gamergate. I had played the game before the "scandal", was underwhelmed (let's be honest, Zoe Quinn is no Emily Short), and I couldn't snarkily dismiss it. It was torture! The Vosgian Beast posted:Really? I was under the impression it did pretty well for the kind of small-budgeted indie game it was and it seems to have done well enough for the studio that made it to come back with So it sold but I don't get the impression that it's a particularly beloved game
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hackbunny posted:Oh yeah, I was so disappointed by how hard it flopped, how little was said about the game itself for all the noise the controversy around it had made. It didn't even generate much of a fandom, I was so looking forward to fan theories, speculation etc. but in fact I couldn't even find a full, proper timeline. Maybe I'll make one Zoe Quinn is a person who, if she were not the symbolic strawman of every hateful internet dweeb, I probably would distance myself from and avoid since she seems like she's got some problems and I don't really like her personality. I guess this is what it feels like to be one of the baptist churches around here who flew the gay pride flag after the Pulse shooting?
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So help me out, guys, on how to figure out this guy. He says he's a Marxist-Leninist but a lot of his viewpoints seem very far-rightish. Like, for example, the sedevacantism borne out of the Catholic Church being full of gays.
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TinTower posted:So help me out, guys, on how to figure out this guy. He says he's a Marxist-Leninist but a lot of his viewpoints seem very far-rightish. Like, for example, the sedevacantism borne out of the Catholic Church being full of gays. Horseshoe. Once you've decided the status quo is completely intolerable and must be violently overthrown, your resulting ideology is able to take whatever crazy ideas you personally think are important and glue them onto your revolutionary ideology. See also: pro-trump accelerationists.
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