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hurry up and get skinny so i can make fun of something else about you piece of poo poo
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dookifex_maximus posted:hurry up and get skinny so i can make fun of something else about you piece of poo poo Does melting down burn calories?
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Aug 29, 2016 20:27
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KVeezy3 posted:The paper itself states it's making assumptions about a genetic link. For all we know, the link could be because the obese hormonal profile is passed on to the child during pregnancy and could have nothing to do with genetics. that's heritability, regardless of genetics. what it means is that some individuals do not choose their metabolic settings, and some people with high BMI are in fact not responsible because they just can't stop eating fat foods.
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Aug 29, 2016 20:40
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nomadologique posted:that's heritability, regardless of genetics. what it means is that some individuals do not choose their metabolic settings, and some people with high BMI are in fact not responsible because they just can't stop eating fat foods. Right, which meant that before the current obesity epidemic these people with this heritability managed to somehow not be giant blobs. Must be magic, just like the weird magic exclusion from thermodynamics that presumably exists to let these gentle, vegetable nibbling hambeasts keep gaining weight. It's bullshit excuses that help enable current day fatties, but whatever, hope they enjoy wheezing around, losing their feet and eventually their life to being non-compliant blobs. Seems like a great time, and so much better than say, having to be hungry for an appreciable period of their days. Blitter fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Aug 29, 2016 |
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Aug 29, 2016 21:26
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Falun Bong Refugee posted:I guess now you have two types of fat jeans, op. 
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nomadologique posted:that's heritability, regardless of genetics. what it means is that some individuals do not choose their metabolic settings, and some people with high BMI are in fact not responsible because they just can't stop eating fat foods. I don't even understand what your position is. My whole point was not to blame the individual and you called me a reductionist ideological dweeb, yet you agree obesity is a disease of capitalism and that metabolic profiles are important (Which are both directly hosed up by processed foods, not just a 0.2 inter-generational elasticity index). KVeezy3 fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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Aug 30, 2016 00:08
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Suck my dick, you fat man
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Aug 30, 2016 00:25
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Azuth0667 posted:Can happen if your parents feed you the wrong things or too much as a kid too. You get adipocyte doubling then you'rehurting like that for the rest of your life. what is adpiocyte doubling serious question, i realize i'm lowercase posting in gbs, but this thread is the only hit in the entire internet for searching that term Sonofsilversign posted:nz has a 1/3 obesity rate so more or less equivalent to america i think? though we have alot of pacific islanders who legitimately do tend to be genetically fat so id generally give them a pass pacific islanders are not genetically fat. we are genetically broad as barns, but that's all on bone structure and the most small-framed femboi twink hawaiian guy i know is as wide across as a fairly built white dude just from how his shoulders are shaped. obesity is pretty much 100% lifestyle-oriented in our population, tfw u sit on your veranda and pound heinekens all day. alternatively, there's a lot of cultural pressure to eat way more than you should. seriously if you aren't stuffing yourself, a lot of hawaiians feel like maybe we did something wrong either to you personally or didn't put enough effort into getting everyone's favorite foods. i guess it was okay, historically speaking, when your spread at a social gathering consisted mostly of water, non-pastoral agrarian products including a particularly disgusting tuber, and then also once in a while fish and pork. not so okay when your menu includes coca cola, sweet tea, macaroni salad, orange chicken, fried rice, fried steak, and someone prob bought like fifty boxes of mcdonalds fries and dumped em in a fuckin pan. when not taking thirds or fourths is socially unacceptable, well. the people who are born into or later choose not to remove themselves from social circles where that pressure is there are doomed 
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Aug 30, 2016 00:47
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The White Dragon posted:what is adpiocyte doubling i think that posters fat fingers hit too many keys at once and u end up with nonsense words
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Aug 30, 2016 00:52
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Maybe its just that being lazy and wanting to eat too much food is genetic. It's not like fat just accumulates on your body in some mysterious way.
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Aug 30, 2016 00:56
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dookifex_maximus posted:https://gordonlab.wustl.edu/supplemental/turnbaugh/obob/ Gut microbes are strongly affected by diet. The White Dragon posted:what is adpiocyte doubling It's from the idea that fat cells can grow bigger and multiply but they are never removed and only shrink when losing weight. But this might just be an incorrect interpretation based on overall cell turnover. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18454136
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Aug 30, 2016 00:58
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no one in my family is fat 
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Azuth0667 posted:
Do this. Also be aware the microbiota in your gut plays a role. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27511459 The effect of microbiota in the gut and elsewhere on human disease is a developing (and very interesting field). http://www.openbiome.org/press-releases/2015/10/28/fecal-transplant-pills-large-scale-production-begins-following-successful-dosing-study http://www.openbiome.org/fmtcapsules None of these are any excuse to eat too much, eat poo poo or not exercise however. It is a lot more complicated for some people than just an energy equation is my point. Falun Bong Refugee posted:I guess now you have two types of fat jeans, op. Still best post in the thread. Helical Nightmares fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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Aug 30, 2016 01:12
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If there is a major civil disaster. flood, plague, earthquake etc. Ill be turning to cannibalism before the suns down. Fair warning.
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nomadologique posted:i don't disagree that "obesity is a disease of capitalism," (that's pretty obvious from the evidence as well, considering that obesity only appeared/appears in the context of modern western society) but you could try harder to know what you're actually saying instead of being an ideological dweeb. you admitted that we nailed a fair half sentence summary of the majority of the problem, scolded us for it, then in your BETTER MORE IN DEPTH summary you left out enzymes and gut bacteria and some guy who isn't as scientist as you posted it two seconds later just admit hating capitalism hits 90 percent of the problem, for the other 10 percent i will concede genetics/diseases/ur 2 unique 4 science 2 understand sums it all up edit also even most enzyme problems are related to being wiped out by antibiotics, an over-used quick fix of america's broken drug business
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That one pic that has a blonde guy that gives an overweight woman a look of "are you loving serious" is popular in the forums. Same video, different people involved, but there can be a cultural inclination to be plumper. Like you can show off you can afford it you know? Obesity and fat are very different. But I think fat is ok. And I can appreciate not everyone loves thin If my gut flora is affected by diet but changes on what I eat how do I get thin thinking gut flora.
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Aug 30, 2016 02:34
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504 posted:If there is a major civil disaster. flood, plague, earthquake etc. Ill be turning to cannibalism before the suns down. Lol you're gonna get fat after you inherit the fat epigenetic hormonal whatevers from eating fat people after the Apocalypse.
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Aug 30, 2016 02:36
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Falun Bong Refugee posted:I guess now you have two types of fat jeans, op.
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Aug 30, 2016 02:37
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Blitter posted:Right, which meant that before the current obesity epidemic these people with this heritability managed to somehow not be giant blobs. Must be magic, just like the weird magic exclusion from thermodynamics that presumably exists to let these gentle, vegetable nibbling hambeasts keep gaining weight. This is scoring way to high on the autism scale. Dial it back man.
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Aug 30, 2016 02:44
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Obese people would be incredibly bad to eat. Like, the meat would suck real bad.
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Aug 30, 2016 02:48
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Pvt.Scott posted:Obese people would be incredibly bad to eat. Like, the meat would suck real bad. You'd have lamp oil for a months.
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The White Dragon posted:what is adpiocyte doubling The jist of it is kids eat a bunch of high calorie stuff, far more than they normally should, which stimulates adipogenesis (fat cells dividing) which then gives them a larger adipocyte population than they should have which fucks up all of their appetite signaling which leads to more eating and more adipogenesis. End result is an additional population of fat cells the kids can't get rid of that fucks up their appetite signaling for the rest of their lives.
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Aug 30, 2016 03:07
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Azuth0667 posted:The jist of it is kids eat a bunch of high calorie stuff, far more than they normally should, which stimulates adipogenesis (fat cells dividing) which then gives them a larger adipocyte population than they should have which fucks up all of their appetite signaling which leads to more eating and more adipogenesis. End result is an additional population of fat cells the kids can't get rid of that fucks up their appetite signaling for the rest of their lives. That sounds roughly right for me, I guess, maybe? My diet was pretty lovely when I was young and my mom kept candy and soda in the house at all times, kind of a holdover from poo poo her mom did. At some point she started cooking and shopping healthy, but I was probably 14 by then. I'll ask the doc about it next time I'm in, for shits and giggles. Doesn't really change anything for me right now, though.
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Pvt.Scott posted:That sounds roughly right for me, I guess, maybe? My diet was pretty lovely when I was young and my mom kept candy and soda in the house at all times, kind of a holdover from poo poo her mom did. At some point she started cooking and shopping healthy, but I was probably 14 by then. I'll ask the doc about it next time I'm in, for shits and giggles. Doesn't really change anything for me right now, though. There's a bunch of literature suggesting high fructose corn syrup plays a big part in this too.
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Edgar Allan Pwned posted:That one pic that has a blonde guy that gives an overweight woman a look of "are you loving serious" is popular in the forums. Same video, different people involved, but there can be a cultural inclination to be plumper. Like you can show off you can afford it you know? Obesity and fat are very different. But I think fat is ok. And I can appreciate not everyone loves thin Obesity being a disease of the rich was before the proliferation of cheap, convenient processed foods. Now poor people are overworked, stressed, and reach for cheap convenient foods as a salve for their unsatisfying lives. It's cute to think that everybody's opinion matters on what is an OK weight, but then there's science that says it's a metabolic disaster to be overweight. That's without including the visceral reaction we all have to flabby chins and stomachs. Edgar Allan Pwned posted:If my gut flora is affected by diet but changes on what I eat how do I get thin thinking gut flora. It takes time. Processed food wrecks your gut flora. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodandd...tudy-finds.html KVeezy3 fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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KVeezy3 posted:Obesity being a disease of the rich was before the proliferation of cheap, convenient processed foods. Now poor people are overworked, stressed, and reach for cheap convenient foods as a salve for their unsatisfying lives. It's cute to think that everybody's opinion matters on what is an OK weight, but then there's science that says it's a metabolic disaster to be overweight. That's without including the visceral reaction we all have to flabby chins and stomachs. Science also says fat shaming doesn't work but, look at 99% of the self-hating fat goons in this thread 
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st1LL_51ngl3 posted:Lol you're gonna get fat after you inherit the fat epigenetic hormonal whatevers from eating fat people after the Apocalypse. Yeah, but then I can honestly claim its genetic and become a large Jabba the Hutt type entity "OH DOOKE SETA ET BURGER KING HOHOHO!"
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Azuth0667 posted:Science also says fat shaming doesn't work but, look at 99% of the self-hating fat goons in this thread Yeah fatshaming may not work if you're trying to get people to lose weight, but if you're just trying to get them to hate themselves it seems to do ok.
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st1LL_51ngl3 posted:Yeah fatshaming may not work if you're trying to get people to lose weight, but if you're just trying to get them to hate themselves it seems to do ok.
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Yeah, fat shaming never did anything but exacerbate my depression and self-loathing. I already wanted to not be fat, so it wasn't any kind of extra motivation. It actually had the opposite effect of making me not want to try or put in the effort. I'm glad I don't hate myself any longer.
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Pvt.Scott posted:Yeah, fat shaming never did anything but exacerbate my depression and self-loathing. I already wanted to not be fat, so it wasn't any kind of extra motivation. It actually had the opposite effect of making me not want to try or put in the effort. I'm glad I don't hate myself any longer. gbs will pick up where you left off
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In spite of what many in denial food addicts would have you believe, shame can be a powerful motivator.
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Poetic Justice posted:In spite of what many in denial food addicts would have you believe, shame can be a powerful motivator. i was always underweight growing up but yeah i can't possibly imagine i would've joined my first gym at 18 if the absolute only benefits were for health and strength if you took out all vain and selfish goals, ivan drago, frank zane, gettin' my first blowjob and going 'how do i ensure i never run out of those', i really can't picture working out as heavily as i did, or caring about diet beyond the minimum to avoid death or discomfort it might be the finest line ever though when trying to measure 'how mean should the world be to people to make them help themselves rather than kill themselves'
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Falun Bong Refugee posted:I guess now you have two types of fat jeans, op.
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Poetic Justice posted:In spite of what many in denial food addicts would have you believe, shame can be a powerful motivator. This is true. I lost a 130lbs when a girl dumped me for getting to heavy. That was shameful as gently caress. 40 more lbs to go. Goddamn I was a fat gently caress.
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st1LL_51ngl3 posted:Yeah fatshaming may not work if you're trying to get people to lose weight, but if you're just trying to get them to hate themselves it seems to do ok. Social ostracism isn't powerful enough to combat obesity. At some point, we need to consider what that means for the world.
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This guys book is really good btw
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so let's say it is genetic. then instead of having a weak mind you have poor genes. it's a horse a piece really.
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