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Speaking about the Burkini, this is Morocco's opinion:
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Friendly Humour posted:https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/08/greece-debt-austerity-syriza-tsipras-grexit-eu/ Do people actually believe this? E.g. [quote]From 1995 until the end of the Olympic Games in 2004, Greece enjoyed a decade of exceptional growth and prosperity. More than half a million Greeks, mostly women, found jobs during these “golden years” of the Greek economy. Capital flows from capital-saving countries to Greece, where profitability was higher, fueled GDP growth, investment, and employment. But in contrast to this good performance (and to some extent because of it), the trade deficit of goods and services increased dramatically from 1999 onwards.[quote] Describing a credit bubble as "exceptional growth" is kinda funny. [quote]In the general euphoria of that time, there were few who expressed concern. After all, the theory underlying the architecture of European Monetary Union (EMU) had predicted that high trade deficits would simply correct themselves, as they would inevitably trigger supposedly powerful market-driven adjustment processes. But this didn’t happen. The Greek experience shows that markets alone cannot adjust imbalances under the EMU institutional arrangements — at least not always. As a result, external deficits exploded, generating a very large external debt. So the outburst of the Greek crisis should not be attributed to the clientelistic Greek state but to the design of the eurozone, the way it was constructed. [quote] Well, after the Greeks stopped cooking the books there "powerful market-driven adjustment process" actually happened. It's just that the EU decided that having Greece starve might be a too powerful market driven adjustment-process. But sure, it's all the Eurozones fault and Greece is the victim here....
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Aug 29, 2016 11:47
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I don't really see why Morocco's opinion is relevant in a thread about European politics
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Aug 29, 2016 11:48
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Andrast posted:I don't really see why Morocco's opinion is relevant in a thread about European politics Morocco is also an imperialist oppressor, much like us.
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Aug 29, 2016 12:04
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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It's imperialist oppressors all the way down.
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Aug 29, 2016 12:17
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Riso posted:Speaking about the Burkini, this is Morocco's opinion: I'm 99.99% sure that's a hotel pool, not a beach.
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Aug 29, 2016 12:43
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Yeah it's a pool, burkinis are already banned in pools for hygiene reasons, like swimming trunks. Basically 
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Aug 29, 2016 12:45
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GaussianCopula posted:Well, after the Greeks stopped cooking the books there "powerful market-driven adjustment process" actually happened. It's just that the EU decided that having Greece starve might be a too powerful market driven adjustment-process. But sure, it's all the Eurozones fault and Greece is the victim here.... I'm not sure you can call it an adjustment process any more than you can call salting the earth an adjustment process. Perhaps in technical terms, but it's not something you can really work with.
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Aug 29, 2016 12:45
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Kurtofan posted:Yeah it's a pool, burkinis are already banned in pools for hygiene reasons, like swimming trunks. Are you supposed to go in naked? It looks like the picture of the bathing suit is crossed out. That's weird. Or is it a women-only pool, since apparently women's bathing suits are okay?
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Aug 29, 2016 13:11
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PT6A posted:Are you supposed to go in naked? It looks like the picture of the bathing suit is crossed out. That's weird. speedos very common, and very annoying in (indoor) swimming pools
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Aug 29, 2016 13:12
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steinrokkan posted:speedos Lol wut. Is this a europe.txt thing?
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Aug 29, 2016 13:19
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What exactly is the "hygienic" reason for banning full body swim gear and trunks? Do they get moldy or something?
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Aug 29, 2016 13:20
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waitwhatno posted:What exactly is the "hygienic" reason for banning full body swim gear and trunks? Do they get moldy or something? they're loose so your pubes could wash out into the pool i guess?
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Aug 29, 2016 13:24
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awesome-express posted:Lol wut. Is this a europe.txt thing? Yup. The logic is that shorts have more fabric and ergo carry more microbes, and that some types of cloth used in shorts, like cotton clogs up the filtering systems. It's really dumb, but that's what you get when you promote a safety obsessed public opinion that bans anything that at least one person thinks might be dangerous in ridiculous circumstances.
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Aug 29, 2016 13:31
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Kurtofan posted:Yeah it's a pool, burkinis are already banned in pools for hygiene reasons, like swimming trunks. I think it's more a Mediterranean.txt thing but I honestly would not know. I've never seen it in any EU country I've been to. 
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Aug 29, 2016 13:36
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Andrast posted:I don't really see why Morocco's opinion is relevant in a thread about European politics Well they pretty much want to join EU 
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Aug 29, 2016 13:36
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Friendly Humour posted:Yup. The logic is that shorts have more fabric and ergo carry more microbes, and that some types of cloth used in shorts, like cotton clogs up the filtering systems. It's really dumb, but that's what you get when you promote a safety obsessed public opinion that bans anything that at least one person thinks might be dangerous in ridiculous circumstances. 
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Aug 29, 2016 13:41
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DarkCrawler posted:Well they pretty much want to join EU We should let them in before Turkey, Morocco is less of a shitshow.
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Aug 29, 2016 13:42
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Friendly Humour posted:Yup. The logic is that shorts have more fabric and ergo carry more microbes, and that some types of cloth used in shorts, like cotton clogs up the filtering systems. It's really dumb, but that's what you get when you promote a safety obsessed public opinion that bans anything that at least one person thinks might be dangerous in ridiculous circumstances. I'm no health expert, but I'm not sure if some cotton particles are any more of a health hazard then some dude's balls spilling out.
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Aug 29, 2016 13:43
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Yinlock posted:I'm no health expert, but I'm not sure if some cotton particles are any more of a health hazard then some dude's balls spilling out. I'm no health expert but that's why you chlorinate pool water. It's not like speedos keep the piss in either.
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Aug 29, 2016 13:45
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https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/770227932128223232 Eurosceptic 5-star movement polling ahead of both the centre-left and the centre-right in second round polling for the Italian elections.
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Aug 29, 2016 13:50
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PT6A posted:Are you supposed to go in naked? It looks like the picture of the bathing suit is crossed out. That's weird. Men must wear speedos.
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Aug 29, 2016 13:57
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The USA has survived for 200 years despite each individual state not having its own currency. I think you may need to consider the fact that Greece's problems are due to reasons other than a common currency.
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Aug 29, 2016 14:08
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Nitrousoxide posted:The USA has survived for 200 years despite each individual state not having its own currency. I think you may need to consider the fact that Greece's problems are due to reasons other than a common currency. Are you aware that that nations in the EU are in fact separate countries, unlike american states. The Euro isn't the only cause of Greece's problem but it certainly isn't helping.
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Aug 29, 2016 14:18
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Kurtofan posted:Men must wear speedos. Do women have to wear two-piece bathing suits with bottoms that do not cover more than speedos do as well?
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Aug 29, 2016 14:22
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Kopijeger posted:Do women have to wear two-piece bathing suits with bottoms that do not cover more than speedos do as well? Nah, one-piece or two-piece.
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Aug 29, 2016 14:24
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Andrast posted:Are you aware that that nations in the EU are in fact separate countries, unlike american states. Aside from the lack of an individual army and foreign policy, US states are pretty analogous to nation states in the EU.
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Aug 29, 2016 14:29
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Nitrousoxide posted:Aside from the lack of an individual army and foreign policy, US states are pretty analogous to nation states in the EU. Except US states are required to run balanced budgets.
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Aug 29, 2016 14:40
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AFAIK the reason why swimming trunks are often banned is also to prevent people from dragging sand and dirt from the beach / the outdoors area into the pool.
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Aug 29, 2016 14:44
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Riso posted:Except US states are required to run balanced budgets. No, the main difference is that if individual states are in trouble the overarching national government will lend assistance. This is why there hasn't been a Greece equivalent in the US, despite the fact that some states did even worse with their economies (Florida in 08).
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Aug 29, 2016 14:48
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Riso posted:Except US states are required to run balanced budgets. No? Almost all states have amendments that require that but there is literally nothing that says they must, Vermont has no balanced budget requirement. It's certainly a good idea for states that can't issue debt or just print money (as you can't when you have a common currency) to adopt balanced budgets. There are many nation states that use the dollar for their currency and they are not falling apart from it. I'm not really sure how this undermines the fact that USA states aren't imploding left and right despite having a common currency.
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Aug 29, 2016 14:51
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Kurtofan posted:Men must wear speedos. Guess I'm not going wherever that is. Speedos: not even once.
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Aug 29, 2016 15:15
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PT6A posted:Guess I'm not going wherever that is. Speedos are the male burkini. A mankini, if you will.
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Aug 29, 2016 15:26
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PT6A posted:Guess I'm not going wherever that is. There are nice boxer shaped speedos these days.
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Aug 29, 2016 15:30
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Kurtofan posted:There are nice boxer shaped speedos these days. Oh, so you can wear shorts as long as they're tight-fitting (like cycling shorts, I guess) instead of loose? That seems fine, I thought this was a mandate for banana hammocks or something.
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Aug 29, 2016 15:34
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Squalid posted:Poor educational attainment is a problem for gypsies outside of Europe too, the VOA article I posted includes interviews with a student in the US who may be the first in his family to complete basic education. It's also a serious problem among Latin American Romani in Argentina and Brazil, and if you what they themselves write it's an issue their communities are seriously concerned with. This has, iirc, been helped a lot by better systems for kids that move around a lot in general in schooling. They're usually developed to assist students like those from military families that are constantly assigned to different bases or children that travel around with parents who have to do things like migrate for farm work. Nitrousoxide posted:No? Almost all states have amendments that require that but there is literally nothing that says they must, Vermont has no balanced budget requirement.
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Aug 29, 2016 15:38
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blowfish posted:I'm no health expert but that's why you chlorinate pool water. In conclusion, a bit of respect when trying to integrate people into a new environment can go a long way, and reduce the need to roll out chemical agents.
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Aug 29, 2016 17:56
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Yeah, you need to shower before you go into any public pool in North America pretty much, and that's what I saw when I was in Spain as well (where they didn't give a poo poo about what sort of swimwear you had on, as long as it wasn't "none"). It's rude and disgusting if you don't do so.
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Aug 29, 2016 18:01
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Over here in Austria, theres a big push back against "refugees" but most of the ones who came over have been housed and are no longer in the big tents in town or the train station etc. Finally I figured out the confusion. In Salzburg, there are a massive amount of beggars. In the altstadt its one or sometimes two on every corner. Legally this is fine. The weird thing is, the Austrians believe that these beggars (90% from Romania) are these Syrian/Afghan refugees which is a bit unfair to the refugees.
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Aug 30, 2016 06:10
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Expose your tits for the French Republic and freedom! http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37219723 quote:Prime Minister Manuel Valls has upset political rivals and historians by invoking the symbol of the French republic, Marianne, in the row over "burkini" beach bans.
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