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Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



nigga crab pollock posted:

i had one, it really wasn't particularly useful for anything especially because of the sad state of android 2.1. i mean the hdmi output worked fine but whats the use of that if none of the video players are compatible with your hardware and you cant get controllers hooked up right because android 2.1 with a lovely closed source bluetooth stack

i sent that phone to someone in yospos and set the boot image to goatse so all in all it did good


nowadays most phones actually support it via a usb>hdmi adapter but its one of those things you probably never used it or even thought of a use for

A $30 Chromecast has worked well enough for displaying my phone -> my TV, and also my PC -> my TV.

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Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time
USB 3.1 has built in support for hdmi (with an adapter of course), but I'm not sure if any phones implement the entire spec.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Cojawfee posted:

If they made Windows free for users but cost money for Corporations/OEMs, I could see them sell computers with a tiny linux client installed that downloads and then installs Windows for you to save 20 dollars or whatever.

You can do this with Citrix. Just have a "blank" PC that has the Citrix client installed and you can stream the Windows OS to the PC. Once the user logs out their instance is deleted. Quite handy to keep malware and viruses from getting into your network and to keep users from installing unauthorized software. Handy too if you don't want to push an program update's MSI to 5.000 desktops. Just update once OS image and go.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Bonzo posted:

You can do this with Citrix. Just have a "blank" PC that has the Citrix client installed and you can stream the Windows OS to the PC. Once the user logs out their instance is deleted. Quite handy to keep malware and viruses from getting into your network and to keep users from installing unauthorized software. Handy too if you don't want to push an program update's MSI to 5.000 desktops. Just update once OS image and go.

I don't think home users are going to be able to stream a windows session from their server.

Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004

MHL HDMI allowed me to watch Muppets Christmas Carol on Christmas day in a hotel in India, and for that I shall always be grateful to the awkward, problem-riddled thing.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Alan_Shore posted:

MHL HDMI allowed me to watch Muppets Christmas Carol on Christmas day in a hotel in India, and for that I shall always be grateful to the awkward, problem-riddled thing.
The VHS version is the only true version :colbert:

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax
i have my old netbook , its a mediocre atom netbook with 2 gigs of ram

im debating if i should even bother buying a new battery for it because despite it being less powerful than my cell phone its, u know, an x86 computer with a keyboard and if i put a solid state drive in it it probably won't be too terrible to use right

i wonder if i can run fruity loops or ableton on it, lmao

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

nigga crab pollock posted:

i have my old netbook , its a mediocre atom netbook with 2 gigs of ram

im debating if i should even bother buying a new battery for it because despite it being less powerful than my cell phone its, u know, an x86 computer with a keyboard and if i put a solid state drive in it it probably won't be too terrible to use right

i wonder if i can run fruity loops or ableton on it, lmao

Jeskola Buzz. (Is that still around?)

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

nigga crab pollock posted:

i have my old netbook , its a mediocre atom netbook with 2 gigs of ram

im debating if i should even bother buying a new battery for it because despite it being less powerful than my cell phone its, u know, an x86 computer with a keyboard and if i put a solid state drive in it it probably won't be too terrible to use right

i wonder if i can run fruity loops or ableton on it, lmao

I used my old eePC as a media server for a while but then I switched to a Raspberry Pi. I wasn't running windows on the netbook though, so if you need that IDK. A lower physical footprint and less power being used all for a way low price. There used to be something to be said for reusing old machines for simple tasks like being a server, but with how popular and well supported these credit card sized PCs are, there's no point in keeping them around.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


nigga crab pollock posted:

i have my old netbook , its a mediocre atom netbook with 2 gigs of ram

im debating if i should even bother buying a new battery for it because despite it being less powerful than my cell phone its, u know, an x86 computer with a keyboard and if i put a solid state drive in it it probably won't be too terrible to use right

i wonder if i can run fruity loops or ableton on it, lmao

From my experience, no way in hell. I have a similar spec'ed netbook and I tried both Live and FL, and they'll run eventually, but actually using the programs is essentially impossible, unless you're ok with waiting 2+ minutes every time you load a synth or a rack or whatever.

Honestly, I'm a Live guy not an FL guy, and I haven't found a Live Android thingy that does anything more than act as another controller, but FL Studio Mobile runs really well on my older Nexus 7 and is a solid option if you're just puttering around with general ideas on the go.

Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004

Casimir Radon posted:

The VHS version is the only true version :colbert:

The love is gone!

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

nigga crab pollock posted:

i have my old netbook , its a mediocre atom netbook with 2 gigs of ram

im debating if i should even bother buying a new battery for it because despite it being less powerful than my cell phone its, u know, an x86 computer with a keyboard and if i put a solid state drive in it it probably won't be too terrible to use right

I have one of those. It was actually my work machine for a few years back in the day (like five years ago), for the times I had to travel to remote sites. A netbook was basically perfect for me -- tiny and light with a battery that lasted forever, and just enough oomph to do what I needed. Putting in an SSD was the only real upgrade I ever made to it, and it did make a huge difference.

It still works fine running a relatively light Linux distro -- I currently have Xubuntu on it. But I never really use it anymore, which makes me feel kind of bad since it's still perfectly adequate for 99% of what I do. Even the battery has held up pretty well. But I have a very nice Macbook Pro for work now, and for personal stuff I have newer laptops that are just as light as the netbook but with much bigger screens and a lot more horsepower.

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

drunk asian neighbor posted:

From my experience, no way in hell. I have a similar spec'ed netbook and I tried both Live and FL, and they'll run eventually, but actually using the programs is essentially impossible, unless you're ok with waiting 2+ minutes every time you load a synth or a rack or whatever.

Honestly, I'm a Live guy not an FL guy, and I haven't found a Live Android thingy that does anything more than act as another controller, but FL Studio Mobile runs really well on my older Nexus 7 and is a solid option if you're just puttering around with general ideas on the go.

mmm yeah i dont think it could do synths at all but i have to wonder if it would do fine just compositing samples. maybe using an ancient version?

i used it with photoshop 7 and it worked fine (and photoshop 7 functions surprisingly fine for being loving old) but i tried cs4 on it once and it just straight up didnt function in any capacity

ColoradoCleric
Dec 26, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Powered Descent posted:

I have one of those. It was actually my work machine for a few years back in the day (like five years ago), for the times I had to travel to remote sites. A netbook was basically perfect for me -- tiny and light with a battery that lasted forever, and just enough oomph to do what I needed. Putting in an SSD was the only real upgrade I ever made to it, and it did make a huge difference.

It still works fine running a relatively light Linux distro -- I currently have Xubuntu on it. But I never really use it anymore, which makes me feel kind of bad since it's still perfectly adequate for 99% of what I do. Even the battery has held up pretty well. But I have a very nice Macbook Pro for work now, and for personal stuff I have newer laptops that are just as light as the netbook but with much bigger screens and a lot more horsepower.

You may as well add netbooks as recent tech relics then

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



nigga crab pollock posted:

mmm yeah i dont think it could do synths at all but i have to wonder if it would do fine just compositing samples. maybe using an ancient version?
There's a cool free windows version of Caustic, but if this is one of these ancient atoms, that's still going to be too heavy. Sunvox is probably the way to go.

If you've got outboard gear, it'd work awsomely with a midi only looping sequencer like Seq24.

a retard
Jan 7, 2013

by Lowtax

drunk asian neighbor posted:

Ok, so does anyone still use PCMCIA or ExpressCard or are those completely obsolete at this point?

late to this but if you have a laptop with an expresscard you can get an adapter to hook up a external gpu and power supply and then you can play games that would run like dogshit otherwise

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Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Alan_Shore posted:

The love is gone!
gently caress Katzenberg.

Rashomon
Jun 21, 2006

This machine kills fascists

Jerry Cotton posted:

Jeskola Buzz. (Is that still around?)

This program was amazing, a buddy of mine and I made dozens of tracks with this program back around 2000. Pretty sophisticated and pro sounding stuff too considering all we were using was a piece of free software and some free plugins.

E: I found some old CDs at my parents house a few years ago and ripped them, so now I have a full record of my indie electronic music escapades in the early 2000s. We all used to chill on MP3.com when that was a hotspot for independent musicians, and then moved over to electronicscene.com when the former started moving toward selling commercial music. We also used to lie and tell people we were in college so they wouldn't know we were literally 14-15 year olds. Man, the Internet used to be weird.

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Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.

Quote-Unquote posted:

Working as a computer janitor and having to reimage machines because stupid people keep somehow getting viruses.

Also the time Macafee anti virus decided that a bunch of Windows XP system files were actually a virus and broke about 25 of the machines in the company I was working for at the time.

This. I was also a CJ during the era of counterfeit caps, so there were a lot of replacement motherboards.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

I'm a little sad that payphones aren't a thing anymore, if only because I never got to try one of those boxes you could build that tricked the phone into thinking you had added coins. Those things just sounded so cool.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Batterypowered7 posted:

I'm a little sad that payphones aren't a thing anymore, if only because I never got to try one of those boxes you could build that tricked the phone into thinking you had added coins. Those things just sounded so cool.
Look up the book "Exploding the Phone: The Untold Story of the Teenagers and Outlaws who Hacked Ma Bell" by Phil Lapsley. It's a history of all that Phone Phreaking stuff from the '60s through the '80s, based heavily on interviews with the people involved. It's a pretty decent read!

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


The Kins posted:

Look up the book "Exploding the Phone: The Untold Story of the Teenagers and Outlaws who Hacked Ma Bell" by Phil Lapsley. It's a history of all that Phone Phreaking stuff from the '60s through the '80s, based heavily on interviews with the people involved. It's a pretty decent read!
I used to read textfiles.com type stuff about phreaking back circa 2002 blissfully unaware that none of it really worked anymore. I also thought it was fubby to call up the operator from a payphone and yell "gently caress!" They used to ring the phone again and scold you for that. In hindsight it was a dumb thing to do.

I bought a book about the breakup of Bell based purely on the title being the most melodramatic I'd ever seen, The Rape of Ma Bell: The Criminal Wrecking of the Best Telephone System in the World. You might guess there was some bias there, and probably so since it was written by a couple of ex-Bell engineers.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Speaking of Phreaking, there was a payphone installed at the apartment complex down the way from my parents house when I was a kid. I remember recording a bunch of dialtones and playing it back, and hearing a faint few beeps from the receiver.

I was never brave enough to actually build a blue box or get into it seriously, but it was crazy to know that's how the phone exchange worked.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
It really kills me that I was born too late to phone phreak, like by the time I got up the nerve to try it / was stupid enough to, it wasn't really a thing anymore. Always seemed like such a fascinating thing.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Well, I mean, from a certain perspective we all kind of messed with that when our 14.4k modems hitched a ride on the information superhighway.

It was just getting us very dithered porn instead of free calls to Jamaica.

It's just that the modem wasn't as sexy as the phreakbox. Plus if you knew that AT& command to leave the speaker on (instead of going to mute whenever it connected) it was a loud mofo

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus
I was always more interested in the part of the Jolly Roger Handbook that involved messing with high voltage power company equipment with all caps warnings about starting it with a long pole and running.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Rashomon posted:

This program was amazing, a buddy of mine and I made dozens of tracks with this program back around 2000. Pretty sophisticated and pro sounding stuff too considering all we were using was a piece of free software and some free plugins.

E: I found some old CDs at my parents house a few years ago and ripped them, so now I have a full record of my indie electronic music escapades in the early 2000s. We all used to chill on MP3.com when that was a hotspot for independent musicians, and then moved over to electronicscene.com when the former started moving toward selling commercial music. We also used to lie and tell people we were in college so they wouldn't know we were literally 14-15 year olds. Man, the Internet used to be weird.

Oh yeah because the Internet isn't weird anymore?

(That being said: cool!)

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGIGUBYJLn8

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

ChesterJT posted:

I was always more interested in the part of the Jolly Roger Handbook that involved messing with high voltage power company equipment with all caps warnings about starting it with a long pole and running.

Tell me more... :stare:

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

Three-Phase posted:

Tell me more... :stare:

Found it, the Blotto Box:

quote:

NOTE: If you just had the generator on and have done this in the correct order, you will be a crispy critter. Keep the generator off until you plan to start it up.

quote:

Now, place the remote control right on to the startup of the generator. If you have the long pole, make sure it is very long and stand back as far away as you can get and reach the pole over. NOTICE: If you are going right along with this without reading the file first, you still realize now that your area code is about to become null! Then, getting back, twitch the pole/remote control and run for your drat life. Anywhere, just get away from it. It will be generating so much electricity that if you stand to close you will kill yourself. The generator will smoke, etc. but will not stop. You are now killing your area code, because all of that energy is spreading through all of the phone lines around you in every direction.

It's supposed to send a massive power surge through phone lines and fry them for a wide area. Who knows if it could have worked. I'm sure tech has advanced enough that even if it was possible it likely isn't now but as a kid you sure believed it.

Urban Dictionary posted:

TOP DEFINITION
blotto box
Mostly intended as a joke, the "Blotto Box" was a theoretical device that would send too much electricity over phone lines, making it impossible for any calls to get through. Depending on who you ask, the Blotto Box is either impossible or would kill you when you turned it on. The intended effect is that every phone would "ring and ring and ring" in an entire area code.
Blue box, red box, blotto box: schematics for many small devices were distributed during the era of telephone phreaking, but not all of them worked as advertised.

:shrug:

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


ChesterJT posted:

Urban Dictionary posted:
TOP DEFINITION
blotto box
Mostly intended as a joke, the "Blotto Box" was a theoretical device that would send too much electricity over phone lines, making it impossible for any calls to get through. Depending on who you ask, the Blotto Box is either impossible or would kill you when you turned it on. The intended effect is that every phone would "ring and ring and ring" in an entire area code.
Blue box, red box, blotto box: schematics for many small devices were distributed during the era of telephone phreaking, but not all of them worked as advertised.
:shrug:

I was one of those kids that tried nearly every 'box' I could make. Sadly none worked as I was 10 years to late and in Australia.

stinky ox
Mar 29, 2007
I am a stinky ox.
this ancient site has some interesting stuff about phreaking and a ton of recordings of phreaking in action (ignore the .ram files at the top, there are actual mp3 files further down the page, and even FLAC files at the link to his newer stuff at the top)

http://www.wideweb.com/phonetrips/

plus the chap Evan Doorbell has a really soothing voice. I could nod off quite comfortably listening to him describe the inner workings of some ancient switch or other.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

It took me a second to figure out what was meant by "a meter of voltage."

edit: at first I thought it was dumbass for "a meter-long length of wire"

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


stinky ox posted:

plus the chap Evan Doorbell has a really soothing voice. I could nod off quite comfortably listening to him describe the inner workings of some ancient switch or other.

You might find this guy good. He is building a clock from scratch. Some amazing work in it (both the clock and video work):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8Y146v8HxE

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Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Clickspring and Laura Kohln are amazing.

Basically, any channel AvE links and recommends.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time
I love Clickspring, or really any machine shop porn, but Clickspring is especially good.

stinky ox
Mar 29, 2007
I am a stinky ox.
Those clockmaking videos are fantastic. As a clumsy ox who's about as handy as a newt it's lovely to watch that guy making his skills look so effortless. Beautiful stuff.

In a somewhat similar vein here's a French chap hand-building some vacuum tubes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzyXMEpq4qw

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

:gizz:

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
I am catching up on 20 pages but I never heard those things to be called "dittos". We called them "rexos"; short for Rexograph. Interestingly enough I cannot find anyone else who called them rexos except kids I knew growing up. I thought it was a regional thing but it was called rexos in Brooklyn and dittos 15 miles away on Long Island so I can't figure out what was up with NYC using the term "rexo" while everyone else on the face of the planet called them a "ditto".

Pubic Lair posted:

Wasn't there a competitor to lightscribe that could label a regular blank cd by burning garbage data to spell out your text on the outer edge of the data side?

Or did I make that up?

JnnyThndrs posted:

Nah, I think I read something about that too, although I don't think it caught on for poo poo.

IIRC, it stole a ton of disc space because it wrote on the outside edge of the disc and that's where most of the data is - like a 1/2' wide strip of letters took the equivalent of 200 meg of data.

Fake edit: it was called 'DiscT@2' or some dumbasss name like that and Sony was behind it.

I just looked into this as I never heard of it before. I am actually shocked no one figure out how to use this to pirate Sega Saturn games, considering the only copy protection (as far as I know) was that the Saturn physically looked for the word "Sega" on the rim of the disc.

nigga crab pollock posted:

didn't divx/xvid have hardware implementation which is why it was popular? like couldn't buy dvd players and poo poo that could play divx? im not talking about the rental service with the same name

a neighbor whose lawn i mowed tried to sell me on it when i was like 15 but the same guy also tried to convince me plasma tvs were the best and to install linux on my desktop so i think he was behind the curve a bit

While I do not know your neighbor, he was absolutely correct that plasma TVs are the best.

edit:

Dick Trauma posted:

Hooking up a Pong console to the back of our tiny Sony B&W seemed pretty drat futuristic back in 1976. I'm sure the landfills of the 1980s are peppered with heaps of these things.



What is the adapter/converter on the right called? I need one to hook up my Ti99/a to my TV!

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nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax


i think it's just a generic antenna connector, but every television i've been familiar with just uses coax as the antenna, even the v old ones. im going to guess anything post 1980 doesnt really have one since ive never really seen one on an actual tv. i think its from the period where there wasn't poo poo to hook up to your Tv, so the only thing in the back was an antenna port?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-Push-On-Antenna-Matching-Transformer-300-75-Ohm-TV-F-Coax-Adapter-DT-/262458328325

thank you ccp for paying for shipping so its a dollar straight from fuckin hong kong

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