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Triggered
Aug 21, 2016

Learn about this great man on mormon.org
Are there gay Klingons?

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CharlieWhiskey
Aug 18, 2005

everything, all the time

this is the world

Powered Descent posted:

Six years, actually. But you know what, I'll allow it. There's ZERO chance that Fermat used the same reasoning as Wiles did. So if Fermat had an actual proof in mind, it relied on reasoning that we still haven't figured out. (Personally I think the most likely explanation is that Fermat was just mistaken, and if he'd actually written down what he was thinking about, he would have gone "aw gently caress, that doesn't actually work after all, does it". But then I might be wrong.)

And besides, Jadzia Dax once remarked that Tobin's approach to the problem was "the most original approach to the proof since Wiles over 300 years ago." The proof had been published only a month before that episode aired.

I always like to think Fermat wrote 'remarkable proof' in the margin the same way I might write 'nice car' in the margin of a local auto classifieds. Neither of us actually have them, but we would enjoy having them.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time
He was actually working on a vodka review.

Gatekeeper
Aug 3, 2003

He was warrior and mystic, ogre and saint, the fox and the innocent, chivalrous, ruthless, less than a god, more than a man.

Tyson Tomko posted:

Then you hit episodes like Timeless and Course Oblivion and go well drat now that's fresh.

ok i'll give you Course oblivion. it has the unfair advantage of being written by Brian Fuller and Carl Sagan's son Nick

Actually the more I look at Fuller's episodes the more hope I have for STD

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal
Yeah, I honestly think with Fuller in charge and Joe Menosky coming back, things are in good hands.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I'm trying to wrap my head around why so many Trekkies hate Avery Brooks's performance as Sisko. He's full on theater acting, rather than television acting. But then, Shatner and Stewart were also doing Shakespearean overacting in their shows as well. I never understand the refusal to accept change because DS9 tried to do things differently.

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:
Many Trekkies are racist, I have found. And it wasn't the fact of Brooks' being black that tipped them over, it was that his blackness was openly acknowledged several times on the show.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Apollodorus posted:

Many Trekkies are racist, I have found.

which is really loving hilarious

they've literally learned nothing from their favorite show

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


Apollodorus posted:

Many Trekkies are racist, I have found. And it wasn't the fact of Brooks' being black that tipped them over, it was that his blackness was openly acknowledged several times on the show.

Everyone that watches through DS9 is at the very least a little racist against Bajorans by the middle and full on Donald Trump Of Cardassia Prime by the end of it.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
Voyager needed to be a show about a Cardassian ship lost in the Delta Quadrant. Or, as it would eventually be known, the Dukat Quadrant.

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


JediTalentAgent posted:

Voyager needed to be a show about a Cardassian ship lost in the Delta Quadrant. Or, as it would eventually be known, the Dukat Quadrant.

Duquatrant, Territory of the Holy Duminion.

HeartPlug
Aug 22, 2016

Sand will cover this place
Sand will cover you
I'm loving DS9 and Sisko, but I'm not going to pretend his acting in the pilot isn't hilarious. The height of it is the beach scene with his dead wife or him trying to be chummy with Jake. Of course he gets better but that first episode was pretty jarring.

Compare that with David Duchovny in the X-Files who I'm not sure ever improved. The takeaway here is that David Duchovny should've shaved his head and grown a goatee.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Big Mean Jerk posted:

which is really loving hilarious

they've literally learned nothing from their favorite show

If you ever play Star Trek Online (don't, it's loving awful) Zone chat is every zone is remarkably racist, Republican, and xenophobic. It's like "motherfucker, have you even seen Star Trek?"

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
I bet those fuckers know each ships warp factors and poo poo by heart though

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

I bet those fuckers know each ships warp factors and poo poo by heart though

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

I bet those fuckers know each ships warp factors and poo poo by heart though

yes, because that is exploration that awaits us

not mapping stars and studying nebulae, but charting the unknown possibilities of racist shitposting

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
to boldly post what no man has posted before

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.
I'm working through DS9 (on season 7 now) using mostly this list of what episodes to watch for hot Federation on Dominion action, along with a few others thrown in that I've either heard are interesting or the description looked good.

But whoever compiled that list dropped the ball on season 6. I watched the finale, and out of nowhere Dukat is all,
"Hey, get me some weird Bajorn voodoo doll thing."

Then he breaks it open and goes all super-saiyan on Jadzia, makes an orb not work, and closes the wormhole, and it makes no sense.

I then have to look poo poo up on memory-alpha and find out there something called Pah-Wraiths (?) that are, like, anti-Prophets that the website didn't think was important enough to know about before the finale. So I got mad at a website for not having me watch one of the earlier ones that establish these things.

So then I decided to just watch all the remaining ones in order and end up watching one where Bashir cures that catatonic genetically-engineered girl and IMMEDIATELY starts creepin' on her (oh, but don't worry, no ethics violation here, he had the other doctor take over her care. :rolleye:) Like...he goes from first kiss (which I assume is the first kiss of her entire life) to asking her to spend a week with him alone on Planet Bone Zone. She gets so freaked out by him that she has to pretend to be catatonic again in the hopes it will get him to leave her alone.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

HeartPlug posted:

I'm loving DS9 and Sisko, but I'm not going to pretend his acting in the pilot isn't hilarious. The height of it is the beach scene with his dead wife or him trying to be chummy with Jake. Of course he gets better but that first episode was pretty jarring.

His overacting is still incredibly fun to watch. It's a performance piece, but because Sisko's anger and high emotion moments are so memorable, people tend to forget just how much range he has for subtle moments.
Of course, the beach scene is still hilarious. "Do you have ANY idea how INCREDIBLE this is? AAOOOWWW!"

DrBouvenstein posted:

But whoever compiled that list dropped the ball on season 6. I watched the finale, and out of nowhere Dukat is all,
"Hey, get me some weird Bajorn voodoo doll thing."

There is a one off episode where Jake and either Keiko or Kira (can't remember) get possessed by a Pah-Wraith and a Prophet and have a laser fight on the promenade. It might have been the same episode where a Pah=Wraith posessed Keiko to try and make O'Brien blow up the wormhole or she would make Keiko self harm.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Aug 30, 2016

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Apollodorus posted:

Many Trekkies are racist, I have found. And it wasn't the fact of Brooks' being black that tipped them over, it was that his blackness was openly acknowledged several times on the show.

someone once wrote a series of huge responses to a post of mine on reddit....like 15 pages total, all about how Star Trek is an anarcho-capitalist show because Federation bureaucracy seems cumbersome and intrusive from time to time

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
Ugh TNG definitely has tons of skippable episodes but DS9 is worth watching cover to cover. Even the occasional bad episode usually has some good character or arc stuff.

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


I skip every single second of prophet-time when watching DS9. Probably adds up to an episode and a half worth by the end.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

A Fancy Bloke posted:

If you ever play Star Trek Online (don't, it's loving awful) Zone chat is every zone is remarkably racist, Republican, and xenophobic. It's like "motherfucker, have you even seen Star Trek?"

I was telling a friend about Far Beyond the Stars once and he said the episode was garbage bullshit because "that far in the future no one will notice race so the show shouldn't address it". That first part is all well and good, but DS9 isn't real and science-fiction has always incorporated social issues.

I can't wait to tell him about Sisko objecting to the holo-Vegas heist. :laugh:

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
what cant sisko be more like uhura she was never like "HEY Y'ALL I'M BLACK" i MEAN Cmon she was one of the good ones


edit: I'm 100% sure someone out there has probably made that statement and was 100% serious ughhg

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

what cant sisko be more like uhura she was never like "HEY Y'ALL I'M BLACK" i MEAN Cmon she was one of the good ones


edit: I'm 100% sure someone out there has probably made that statement and was 100% serious ughhg

i assumed you werent being ironic at first because i've seen that on star trek's subreddit. i think it was in the cnotext of people making GBS threads on Far Beyond the Stars, one of the absolute best ST episodes from any series

Gatekeeper
Aug 3, 2003

He was warrior and mystic, ogre and saint, the fox and the innocent, chivalrous, ruthless, less than a god, more than a man.
my friends and i love dropping the sisko's "ISNT IT POSSIBLE???" (starts at 1:40) any time we could have just said "well maybe this...?" or "huh could it have been this..?

and the ultimate sisko moment is at the end of the bashir bond episode, when bashir does his whole "you know what? you're right!" speech to sisko's hippocrates noah, and sisko looks at him in silent intensity for a really long time, almost trembling with intensity, and then lets loose this incredible high pitched "HA!" like a fuckin gunshot

Zorodius
Feb 11, 2007

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SUCK THE SHIT STRAIGHT OUT OF MY OWN ASSHOLE.

BUY IT.
Uhura was a reliable comms officer. I wouldn't put Sisko on my crew; never know when he's going to get possessed by an alien ghost for some bullshit.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

A comms officer during hostilities with the Klingons who doesn't speak a word of it...

MrSlam
Apr 25, 2014

And there you sat, eating hamburgers while the world cried.
Stardate 4567.21, Lieutenant Commander Data has been possessed by a sentient alien algorithm...again. Commander La Forge has crafted a device that we hope should prevent these types of incidents in the future.

:techno: "It's called, Aluminum Foil..."

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


Gatekeeper posted:

my friends and i love dropping the sisko's "ISNT IT POSSIBLE???" (starts at 1:40) any time we could have just said "well maybe this...?" or "huh could it have been this..?

and the ultimate sisko moment is at the end of the bashir bond episode, when bashir does his whole "you know what? you're right!" speech to sisko's hippocrates noah, and sisko looks at him in silent intensity for a really long time, almost trembling with intensity, and then lets loose this incredible high pitched "HA!" like a fuckin gunshot

I dunno, the baseball game ep's 'Manufactured Triumph! Hear, hear!" was pretty wonderful.

Gatekeeper
Aug 3, 2003

He was warrior and mystic, ogre and saint, the fox and the innocent, chivalrous, ruthless, less than a god, more than a man.

shadow puppet of a posted:

I dunno, the baseball game ep's 'Manufactured Triumph! Hear, hear!" was pretty wonderful.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time

MrSlam posted:

Stardate 4567.21, Lieutenant Commander Data has been possessed by a sentient alien algorithm...again. Commander La Forge has crafted a device that we hope should prevent these types of incidents in the future.

:techno: "It's called, Aluminum Foil..."

wow, how did you make the aluminum opaque?

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

MrSlam posted:

Stardate 4567.21, Lieutenant Commander Data has been possessed by a sentient alien algorithm...again. Commander La Forge has crafted a device that we hope should prevent these types of incidents in the future.

:techno: "It's called, Aluminum Foil..."

yeah but let's be fair here, how many times did the fatbrains get possessed too?


multiple people got possessed by the energy cloud thing in season 1.
barclay got tinkered with and hijacked the enterprise across the galaxy in season 3.
the crew started getting into fights and had a riot in season 3 when a senile vulcan came on board and broadcast ragewaves across the ship
la forge got brainwashed and attempted to start a war with the klingons in season 4
troi, o'brien, and data got possessed by more energy beings in season... 5?
the whole fuckin' crew (EXCEPT DATA) got brainwashed in season 5 with the orgasm video game
the whole fuckin' crew got brainwiped and then infiltrated by some penny-ante space shitheads in season 5



i'm pretty sure if starfleet kicked out everyone who ever got brain controlled or brain wiped, they'd have a real hard time keeping their ships crewed.

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO



Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

"Eat poo poo, racist vulcan dickbag!" :chugs:

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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What kind of colossal dumbass wouldn't like Sisko him yelling at poo poo has been the highlight of the entire series so far

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

HeartPlug posted:

I'm loving DS9 and Sisko, but I'm not going to pretend his acting in the pilot isn't hilarious. The height of it is the beach scene with his dead wife or him trying to be chummy with Jake. Of course he gets better but that first episode was pretty jarring.

Compare that with David Duchovny in the X-Files who I'm not sure ever improved. The takeaway here is that David Duchovny should've shaved his head and grown a goatee.

IT

IS NOT


LINEAR

HeartPlug
Aug 22, 2016

Sand will cover this place
Sand will cover you
I'm watching an episode of Enterprise.

A human freighter's been attacked by Nausicaan pirates over and over again and they finally captured one to hold as a hostage. Archer and the gang find out about it and try to rescue the Nausicaan.

Mayweather goes to Archer and says, "Maybe this isn't our fight and we have no reason to intervene in their problems."

Archer's response is, "Humans have a basic code of conduct whether they're born on earth or not. We can't just kill people because they're different."

But they're pirates who are killing them

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Enterprise was awful. Why does that keep coming as a surprise to people?

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Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

HeartPlug posted:

I'm watching an episode of Enterprise.

A human freighter's been attacked by Nausicaan pirates over and over again and they finally captured one to hold as a hostage. Archer and the gang find out about it and try to rescue the Nausicaan.

Mayweather goes to Archer and says, "Maybe this isn't our fight and we have no reason to intervene in their problems."

Archer's response is, "Humans have a basic code of conduct whether they're born on earth or not. We can't just kill people because they're different."

But they're pirates who are killing them

Eh but so what does that suddenly mean it's okay to murder a prisoner in cold blood? Even the Brits gave you a trial before your drop.


I haven't seen Enterprise in a while so I'm prolly not remembering the episode right though.

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