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I'm trying to decide whether to go up a tier in WRs or RBs. Here are the two likely pairings: Freeman/Charles/Ingram/McCoy + Landry/Maclin/Cobb Forte/Mathews/Stewart/D.Murray/Bernard + Allen/Jeffery/Evans My projections have the players between the slashes as being in the same tier. In the first option, I get a high tier RB and a mid tier WR. In the second option, I get the reverse, a high tier WR + a mid tier RB. My custom projections have the first combo coming out on average being worth $5 auction dollars more, but I hate to be missing out on the potential of the WRs in the second combo. Which pairing would you take in 0.5 PPR?
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How early are you fellas reaching for Josh Gordon? My gameplan right now is to try and nab him in the 6th (12 man snake, picking 8th).
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Aug 31, 2016 18:01
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Leperflesh posted:competent I don't have much to add but I just don't want this to go unnoticed.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:09
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I said competent backup. Ponder is a league veteran who can hold a clipboard like nobody's business; he understands the game, knows playbooks, etc. He is not and never will be good enough for a team to want him as their starting QB, but if you're the Vikings and you are looking at your QB options, a guy like Ponder suddenly starts being pretty attractive. Regardless, any team that loses their starting QB for at least half a season pretty much has to add a QB to the roster, because you never want to be going into a game without backup at the position.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:19
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Leperflesh posted:He is not and never will be good enough for a team to want him as their starting QB, but if you're the Vikings and you are looking at your QB options, a guy like Ponder suddenly starts being pretty attractive. No he does not.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:29
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Boosh! posted:How early are you fellas reaching for Josh Gordon? My gameplan right now is to try and nab him in the 6th (12 man snake, picking 8th). He went in the 6th and 7th round in both of my 10 man non-ppr drafts this weekend. I personally think that's way too soon, but the upside is certainly there.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:32
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Would anyone drop either of these two receivers to pick up Spencer Ware in Half PPR? I am very RB-needy but not sure if that is worth it. I could drop Kamar Aiken or Sterling Shepard.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:34
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IcePhoenix posted:No he does not. Then who? Go on, list the QBs available in the league that the Vikings would consider bringing in and adding to the roster.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:36
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MrSargent posted:Would anyone drop either of these two receivers to pick up Spencer Ware in Half PPR? I am very RB-needy but not sure if that is worth it. I could drop Kamar Aiken or Sterling Shepard. I think it depends on who your starting WR and RBs are. Like, you're talking about dropping a backup WR to pick up a backup RB, so it matters how much each player is likely to wind up being a starter for you later in the season.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:38
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Leperflesh posted:Then who? Go on, list the QBs available in the league that the Vikings would consider bringing in and adding to the roster. They should try to trade for McCown.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:39
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MrSargent posted:Would anyone drop either of these two receivers to pick up Spencer Ware in Half PPR? I am very RB-needy but not sure if that is worth it. I could drop Kamar Aiken or Sterling Shepard. I'd say Sterling is the safer drop, but it'd be tough to drop either based on the Ware speculation. I did drop DeVante Parker for Ware (don't have Charles) in a .5 ppr.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:39
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Boosh! posted:How early are you fellas reaching for Josh Gordon? My gameplan right now is to try and nab him in the 6th (12 man snake, picking 8th). That's an early reach. I grabbed him in the 9th and two buddies confirmed he would have been their choice had I not gotten him. His ADP in .5 ppr is 8.9.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:40
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Leperflesh posted:I think it depends on who your starting WR and RBs are. Like, you're talking about dropping a backup WR to pick up a backup RB, so it matters how much each player is likely to wind up being a starter for you later in the season. WRs: Antonio Brown, Keenan Allen, Kelvin Benjamin (Marvin Jones on bench) RBs: Eddie Lacy, Latavius Murray, Deandre Washington, Jerrick McKinnon
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Aug 31, 2016 18:41
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Leperflesh posted:Then who? Go on, list the QBs available in the league that the Vikings would consider bringing in and adding to the roster. Mark Sanchez is about to be available. Otherwise make a trade with one of our thirty low draft picks, there's plenty of QBs out there that we can probably get with a 5th or 6th rounder. And all of them are a better option than Ponder.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:42
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LmaoTheKid posted:They should try to trade for McCown. The browns want a 4th for McCown. Is write off this season at that price.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:45
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MrSargent posted:Would anyone drop either of these two receivers to pick up Spencer Ware in Half PPR? I am very RB-needy but not sure if that is worth it. I could drop Kamar Aiken or Sterling Shepard. I can't imagine you are RB-needy at this early stage. You are probably just weak at that position, and usually most teams will have some weakness to them. You can get the most out of Ware by swinging Ware to Charles' owner for a bench RB guy like Jennings, Crowell, Woodhead. That way you get someone who will be serviceable the rest of the season. Predicting Ware's production very early into in the season will not be easy and the longer into the season we go, the more Charles will assume lead back duties.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:47
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Suave Fedora posted:That's an early reach. I grabbed him in the 9th and two buddies confirmed he would have been their choice had I not gotten him. His ADP in .5 ppr is 8.9. I have a feeling there will be others waiting to pounce on him a round or two before his ADP. Who did you get in the 6th? 7th? Low upside guys like Desean and Crabtree are the usual suspects available when I'm doing my mocks.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:47
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I actually said Mark Sanchez:Leperflesh posted:Teams are cutting now and there are competent backup QBs to be had. Vikes will surely pick one up. Mark Sanchez? Christian Ponder, maybe? LmaoTheKid posted:They should try to trade for McCown. The Browns are starting RGIII. I think they'd be dumb to trade away McCown (which means maybe they'll do it) but what would they want for him? More draft picks? They already have all the draft picks. And who are they going to get to be their backup behind RGIII if they trade away McCown? Cody Kessler does not cut it. It makes little sense for any team to trade away their good backup QB. Most teams roster three QBs and the only ones they're gonna trade away is their #3, at best. A few teams have 4, and even then, they're only trading their #2 if their #3 is good enough and they're desperate at some other position and getting a good option to fill it. So that means Sanchez, Mettenberger.... and maybe Ponder. Christian Ponder is not a good QB but you guys are acting like he wouldn't be a reasonable backup for Shaun Hill. A man who, in 9 games for the Rams in 2014, threw a grand total of 8 touchdowns... and 7 interceptions, with 1 rushing TD. 63.3% passing reception rate. Compare to Ponder's 2013 season with the Vikings; in 9 games, 7 passing TDs and 9 interceptions, with 4 rushing tds. 63.6% passing reception rate. Those are strikingly similar records. If the Vikings can get Sanchez, they should get him. If they can somehow get McCown, absolutely. But if not? Ponder is a very reasonable guy to slot in behind Shaun Hill. e. I mean. Ponder has four years with the Vikings. He knows the playbook, and that's not trivial. He could show up and start handing the ball to AP immediately. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Aug 31, 2016 |
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Aug 31, 2016 18:57
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Boosh! posted:I have a feeling there will be others waiting to pounce on him a round or two before his ADP. Who did you get in the 6th? 7th? Low upside guys like Desean and Crabtree are the usual suspects available when I'm doing my mocks. Gordon's ADP is bullshit. He is going much earlier now after the last preseaon game. Take him in the 6th, but take him in the 5th if you want to be positive you get him.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:57
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Boosh! posted:I have a feeling there will be others waiting to pounce on him a round or two before his ADP. Who did you get in the 6th? 7th? Low upside guys like Desean and Crabtree are the usual suspects available when I'm doing my mocks. I took Gordon in the 8th of my 12 team draft, but got John Brown and Arian Foster (lol) the preceding two rounds. Definitely should have taken him over at least Foster in retrospect. 6th round Gordon pick doesn't seem like a catastrophic reach in any case. 
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Aug 31, 2016 18:59
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Leperflesh posted:Then who? Go on, list the QBs available in the league that the Vikings would consider bringing in and adding to the roster. If the Vikings signed Christian Ponder there would be passive-aggressive riots in the streets
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Aug 31, 2016 19:02
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If Gordon stays clean he's worth a 2nd round pick. But there's pretty drat good odds he can't stay off the weed and the next time he gets caught, his NFL career is clearly over. So what do you do with a guy who has huge upside but infinite downside? When do you draft him? In my book, you draft him no higher than a pick level at which you can afford to lose that player and have to drop him at any point. E.g., after all of your WR and RB starting slots are full. In a league with RB/RB/WR/WR/FLEX that means sixth round or later, and if a good QB is there in the sixth, I'm taking him over Brown.
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Aug 31, 2016 19:02
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Teemu Pokemon posted:If the Vikings signed Christian Ponder there would be passive-aggressive riots in the streets I may not have realized the degree to which the man is hated in Minnesota. But nobody should like Shaun Hill better.
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Aug 31, 2016 19:03
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In my league with people I know who aren't too savvy, Gordon went 10.4 in a 10 man league. In my 12 man Goon league he went 6.6. Interpret that as you may.
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Aug 31, 2016 19:04
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Some rear end in a top hat in my league just offered me Josh Gordon, Moncrief and next year's 4th rounder for my Lamar Miller and Giovani Bernard. 
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Aug 31, 2016 19:07
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kiimo posted:Some rear end in a top hat in my league just offered me Josh Gordon, Moncrief and next year's 4th rounder for my Lamar Miller and Giovani Bernard. Sure dude! Let me hand over a 1st round RB and 6th round RB for a 4th round WR2, 6th round WR with tons of flags, and a 4th rounder next year! Some people I swear.
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Aug 31, 2016 19:17
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Colt McCoy might make for a decent trade from the Redskins to Minnesota. He did well enough the few games he played before he got hurt, Washington has a rookie QB that would be a serviceable backup while the team tanks for a high pick should Cousins get hurt or fail, and it's not like the Vikings need a dynamic QB.
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Aug 31, 2016 19:18
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Aug 31, 2016 19:28
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The Vikings are an inevitable whirlpool of dysfunction spiraling into the undertow of despair. Nothing they do matters. They are nihilism incarnate. Do not waste breath prognosticating on the shuffling of their deck chairs and just stop drafting their players like you should've been doing since 2006
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Aug 31, 2016 19:44
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Boosh! posted:I have a feeling there will be others waiting to pounce on him a round or two before his ADP. Who did you get in the 6th? 7th? Low upside guys like Desean and Crabtree are the usual suspects available when I'm doing my mocks. Then let them pounce. Don't blow a 6th-round pick on a guy who's missing 30% of the fantasy season.
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Aug 31, 2016 19:48
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The best option for MN right now is probably  Brian Hoyer. He already played with Norv and could probably be had for a low pick from CHI. But then again
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I need a little trade advice. I offered up Dez for Leveon straight up, I feel like this is pretty fair since Bell is coming off an injury and will miss at least 3 games this season due to his suspension. I've got Deangello already so the suspension and injury concerns don't bother me too much. The Bell owner countered with Foster for Dez, which I don't like at all. I'm thinking I'll counter that with Deangello + Kamar Aiken for Jonathan Stewart or CJ Anderson. This person is most likely starting Torrey Smith, so Aiken would be an upgrade there and Deangello will obviously help them out if Bell has any issues again this season. I'd offer someone better than Aiken, but it would have to be Brandon Marshall, Dez, or Keenan Allen. In my mind this all makes perfect sense, but I wanted to get someone else's take on it in case this comes off as an insultingly one sided trade.
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I forgot about Hoyer. I think he's nominally a better option than Ponder, although as I said, Ponder obviously knows the playbook, and that's not nothing. Teemu Pokemon posted:The Vikings are an inevitable whirlpool of dysfunction spiraling into the undertow of despair. Nothing they do matters. They are nihilism incarnate. Do not waste breath prognosticating on the shuffling of their deck chairs and just stop drafting their players like you should've been doing since 2006 I think you said Vikings but what you meant to say was Browns, because Adrian Peterson exists, but the browns are untouchables.
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Aug 31, 2016 19:59
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Boosh! posted:I have a feeling there will be others waiting to pounce on him a round or two before his ADP. Who did you get in the 6th? 7th? Low upside guys like Desean and Crabtree are the usual suspects available when I'm doing my mocks. Larry Fitz, Big Ben Round 6 JHill, Doug Baldwin, Edelman, Larry Fitz, Golden Tate, Ryan Mathews, Kelvin, Delanie Walker, Fleener, Woodhead Round 7 Duke, Gio, Langford, Melvin Gordon, Gore, Jennings, Big Ben, Michael Floyd, Jordan Matthews, Tom Brady
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Leperflesh posted:I think you said Vikings but what you meant to say was Browns, because Adrian Peterson exists, but the browns are untouchables. Adrian Peterson is not a Viking, he is a transcendental, child-whuppin' deity that is not bound by the laws of our reality or justice system The Browns have also won Championships in their existence, let that sink in. Leperflesh posted:Ponder obviously knows the playbook, and that's not nothing. I understand rudimentary principles of string theory, ask me to explain astrophysics. Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Aug 31, 2016 |
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Aug 31, 2016 20:05
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Suave Fedora posted:That's an early reach. I grabbed him in the 9th and two buddies confirmed he would have been their choice had I not gotten him. His ADP in .5 ppr is 8.9. Got him at 11.7 in a 10 team on Sunday. Had several autodrafters though.
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Aug 31, 2016 20:36
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10 Player 1 PPR snake. 8th pick in the draft. QB: RG3 RB: David Johnson RB: Latavius Murray WR: Dez Bryant WR: Amari Cooper WR: Sammy Watkins TE: Gary Barnidge FLEX: Golden Tate K: Mason Crosby D/ST: Rams Bench right now: RB: Demarco Murray and Bilal Powell WR: Stefon Diggs, Steve Smith Sr and Terrelle Pryor TE: Tyler Eifert I was surprised Johnson was still available at 8th pick. I think RG3 will score plenty of fantasy points, even if the Browns are still a garbage fire. Plus, if it doesn't work out, there are plenty of QBs left in a 10 team league.
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Aug 31, 2016 20:45
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Brownhat posted:10 Player 1 PPR snake. 8th pick in the draft. This is a pretty good team but it's hard to say how well you'll do because every team looks stacked in 10 team leagues. I would probably use Murray at the flex over Tate, even with the PPR scoring. Barnidge is an obvious regression candidate and you don't really need 2 TEs on your roster. I'd try and trade him if you can get a usable WR or RB.
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In that specific situation, I think it might not be the end of the world to have 2 TE's. On the one hand, there is a chance to sell higher on both of those TE's (buzz with Eifert back to health, or an ok start by Cleveland). At the same time, if Eifert turns out to also be a regression guy (or doesn't get healthy in the way you would expect), then it doesn't make sense to dump Barnidge now.
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When RG3 breaks consider Alex Smith. He's looked amazing this preseason. I mean, for Alex Smith.
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