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If all you've heard is the last three episodes and the (accurate) mild critique of the Clinton campaign's strategy isn't to your liking, I really don't think you're going to enjoy the content of this podcast.
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Aug 30, 2016 16:24
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Frost/Christman ep 2 was pretty good. Much more acceptable volume levels (hope they can keep it up without being in the same place!) and some interesting ideas for future episodes.
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Aug 30, 2016 16:26
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Hulk Krogan posted:This is such an exaggeration of what was said though. The point was that the glass ceiling exists in large part because society normally gets away with a lot of misogyny, but the GOP has overplayed their hand with Clinton to such an extent that it became impossible for society to ignore the sexism it normally does. This doesn't minimize her or any other woman's struggle or take credit away from her, it's just pointing out that people being super obvious about their animus to the point where they forget to code it often supports the argument that said animus exists in the first place. This was an interview with a woman whose book was explicitly about diminishing Hillary's feminist accomplishments. The goal of the piece is to take credit away from her. That's exactly what the statement "misogyny made Hillary's career" does. quote:I mean, would you take issue with saying that images of white southerners beating on peaceful black protesters helped advance the cause of the civil rights movement by forcing the broader public to confront the virulent racism it had previously been content to overlook? Would you be upset with someone saying that footage of police shootings has helped Black Lives Matter gain support and legitimacy? No, I would have a problem with them saying black americans have benefitted from police brutality. quote:There's a reason Clinton's campaign has made a point of having her and her female surrogates continually bait Donald Trump. It's because they know that it helps her when he says outrageously sexist poo poo. I don't see what's controversial about this. There's a big difference between "Hillary is good at confronting sexism and emerging victorious" and "Hillary benefitted from misogyny." Joementum posted:If all you've heard is the last three episodes and the (accurate) mild critique of the Clinton campaign's strategy isn't to your liking, I really don't think you're going to enjoy the content of this podcast. I'm not sure I'd characterize the assertion that Hillary is attempting to hijack the democratic party with a bunch of neocons to defeat the real liberals as a mild critique but I take your point.
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Aug 30, 2016 16:32
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JeffersonClay posted:Yes and therefore when democrats say "wow at least we're not as bad as those assholes" and prove it by passing an anti-racist, anti-misogynist agenda, they have actually accomplished something positive and noteworthy. People suggesting these statements and actions were just a smokescreen to resist full socialism now are either blinded by their privilege or by their need to grind that ideological ax. It's pretty weird to suggest caring about welfare and mass incarceration are things only the privileged care about.
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Aug 30, 2016 16:40
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JeffersonClay posted:Yes and therefore when democrats say "wow at least we're not as bad as those assholes" and prove it by passing an anti-racist, anti-misogynist agenda, they have actually accomplished something positive and noteworthy. Oh cool which alternate earth did you warp in from?
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Aug 30, 2016 16:44
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JeffersonClay posted:This was an interview with a woman whose book was explicitly about diminishing Hillary's feminist accomplishments. The goal of the piece is to take credit away from her. That's exactly what the statement "misogyny made Hillary's career" does. No, the book is explicitly a critique of the policies Clinton has supported and enacted from a feminist perspective. It is a collection of essays written by a bunch of feminists. I honestly don't know how you arrived at your characterization of it. There are good, legitimate reasons that a lot of people see Hillary as a feminist icon but that doesn't mean she's the ur-feminist and every policy she has ever supported becomes feminist by association. That's absurd. Also, black americans have not benefited from police brutality, but the movement to end police violence against black Americans has clearly benefited from the most egregious examples of said violence becoming highly visible, which is the actual corollary to Hillary Clinton, since she's a politician trying to implement policy and not just some woman. quote:There's a big difference between "Hillary is good at confronting sexism and emerging victorious" and "Hillary benefitted from misogyny." Nobody's saying she benefited from misogyny. We're saying she's benefited electorally from her opponents being such reprehensible assholes that their misogyny comes to define them. Even against Obama, she got a lot of positive, sympathetic press after he made his lovely comment about her being "likable enough." The fact that his comment made people feel for her obviously does not erase the fact that it was sexist and hurtful. I agree that it's also true that she's very good at confronting sexism and emerging victorious because, again, you can believe two different ideas at the same time. Hulk Krogan fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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Aug 30, 2016 16:44
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William F Cuckley posted:Oh cool which alternate earth did you warp in from? The one where women and people of color vote for democrats because they represent their interests as opposed to the one where they've all been tricked by crafty neoliberals. quote:Nobody's saying she benefited from misogyny. So misgyny made her career, but that didn't benefit her? What?
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Aug 30, 2016 17:13
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:Are you really this dense To be fair the line was "Hillary owes her career to misogyny" People would take it poorly if you said Jesse Jackson owed his career to racism
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Aug 30, 2016 17:34
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True, I ment more the first part of that post
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Aug 30, 2016 17:40
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Aug 30, 2016 18:14
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felix about twitter for deadspin: http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/im...dium=socialflow
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Aug 30, 2016 18:42
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JeffersonClay posted:The misogyny Hillary faced was not paranoid and cartoonish at the time. I'm sorry but it was just as paranoid and cartoonish. Racism and misogyny had more cultural pull then, wasn't the faux pas it is nowadays.
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Aug 30, 2016 18:52
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This is what the Chapo thread should be, dorks doing DnD style line by line refutations of each other to call someone sexist
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Aug 30, 2016 19:25
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Aug 30, 2016 19:37
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Chapo Trap House: Defending good liberalism through debate and logic. No fallacies here!
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Aug 30, 2016 19:44
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William F Cuckley posted:Felix's impression of the Baseball Crank as Paul Bearer is a That's Billiards Fool, everyone's favorite sports based pundit
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:This is what the Chapo thread should be, dorks doing DnD style line by line refutations of each other to call someone sexist Sorry. I'm Sorry. I'm trying to remove it
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Aug 30, 2016 19:55
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https://twitter.com/fender_splendor/status/770709296883437568
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Aug 30, 2016 20:58
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Vox dot Com has a dick pic explainer up that I won't link to. I anticipate that getting roasted next episode.
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Aug 30, 2016 21:42
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GalacticAcid posted:Vox dot Com has a dick pic explainer up that I won't link to. 
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Aug 30, 2016 22:30
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The situation in the Park Slope mansion has become dangerous and unacceptable https://twitter.com/BRANDONWARDELL/status/770753588142497793
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Atrocious Joe posted:The situation in the Park Slope mansion has become dangerous and unacceptable This is going to be a loving grand coulee of an episode
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Aug 31, 2016 00:43
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Aug 31, 2016 09:37
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Aug 31, 2016 15:14
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William F Cuckley posted:Oh cool which alternate earth did you warp in from? have you seen D&D? there are TONS of these guys posting on the forums.
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Aug 31, 2016 21:15
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Cum town is back baby!
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Aug 31, 2016 21:44
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Under the vegetable posted:have you seen D&D? there are TONS of these guys posting on the forums. SEE ALSO--The election forum now that YAAAAASSSSS KWEEEEEEEN  vanquished the Bernoutbros (who haven't even SEEN Hamilton, If you can believe that)
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Aug 31, 2016 21:50
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Thom and the Heads posted:Cum town is back baby! "I've only read two comics: Maus and Spawn. One's about a guy who goes to hell, the other's about a guy who should go to hell.  "
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Aug 31, 2016 21:57
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Aug 31, 2016 22:10
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You can never have enough Nasrallah. Assuming you don't actually live in Lebanon. Yeah, Keepin' it 1600 has a big following on this forum and people voluntarily watch prime-time cable news for the sick burns. We're pretty much trash.
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Aug 31, 2016 22:55
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There's a meltdown in USPol any time someone makes fun of Nate Silver. I still enjoy posting there though.
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Aug 31, 2016 23:01
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GalacticAcid posted:There's a meltdown in USPol any time someone makes a post.
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Aug 31, 2016 23:16
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Glenn vs. Diggler is going to be.......... something. https://twitter.com/ByYourLogic/status/771131959712083968
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Sep 1, 2016 00:56
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Every podcast should end with a cat throwing up because of its own stench.
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Sep 1, 2016 01:12
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Holy poo poo! Someone else has seen Mad Dog Time. It's every bit as bad as Matt says. The Siskel & Ebert review of it is scorching and hilarious. Here's Roger's written review: http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/mad-dog-time-1996
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Mr Hootington posted:how many more episodes until they reveal usernames? I know for a fact that Felix and Matt never posted here, it's just that those Twitter circles are full of goons so between lurking and Doc Evil and degg propelling Barnacle Jim and degg's hole respectively into the public consciousness they picked up a lot. Also the Berniebros weren't real
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