|
a traitorous goat
|
#
?
Sep 1, 2016 22:55
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 7, 2024 05:43 |
|
|
Pvt.Scott posted:So this old guy just has a hard-on for killing the Teen Titans and he just keeps sending mewling children he may or may not be banging to infiltrate and betray them instead of just stabbing them while they're asleep? Initially they were just a murder contract but for some reason that turned into a gigantic loving hard-on the likes of which rival the Joker and Lex Luthor, except Deathstroke decided to express it. Over children he groomed to be murder machines. DC-- "doing terrible things in the name of 'maturity' for loving decades!"
|
|
#
?
Sep 1, 2016 22:57
|
|
|
listen he's a bad guy okay you're not SUPPOSED to like him!
|
|
#
?
Sep 1, 2016 22:58
|
|
|
Is that not a combination of Judas and scapegoat? Who calls someone a goat? I mean, it would work in the context of Those two words together make no sense to me. Halp. Judas goat.
|
|
#
?
Sep 1, 2016 23:00
|
|
|
Moridin920 posted:listen he's a bad guy okay you're not SUPPOSED to like him! Remember girls, if a predatory man grooms you to be a murderbot and betray your peers you deserve to die... but only after recanting and expressing how you wish you could have been with that Nice Guy Beast Boy who always had a crush on you. Teen Titans: Teaching Terrible Tutorials on how to be a Teammate
|
|
#
?
Sep 1, 2016 23:03
|
|
|
Having only watched the Teen Titans cartoon I thought his name was just "Slade".
|
|
#
?
Sep 1, 2016 23:04
|
|
|
Germstore posted:Having only watched the Teen Titans cartoon I thought his name was just "Slade". cannot say DEATH on a cartoon. they could not use the name DEATHSTROKE THE TERMINATOR (incidently DEAD POOL began as a joke about DEATH STROKE)
|
|
#
?
Sep 1, 2016 23:06
|
|
|
Pvt.Scott posted:Is that not a combination of Judas and scapegoat? Who calls someone a goat? I mean, it would work in the context of I might be misremembering but I'm pretty sure it's the phrase for trained goats that slaughterhouses use to guide the livestock in when it's time for them to get butchered
|
|
#
?
Sep 1, 2016 23:15
|
|
|
mind the walrus posted:Yes on all counts. He was basically "Goofus" to Batman's "Gallant" for Nightwing. Batman uses his powers to beat up the poor and mentally ill. Deathstroke takes contracts for money. It's an obvious choice you see. I was thinking about how the previous Batman films series seemed to choose their villains to fit their style. Burton's Joker is a darker camp version of Ceasar Romero from the '60s series, which sets the tone for his movies as well as Schumacher's films. In Nolan's trilogy, he went with the more cerebral duo of the underused Scarecrow and Ra's Al Gul out of his rogues' gallery instead of a big name like Joker and Two-Face to start with, as well as have his initial adversaries being Carmine Falcone, whom Batman defeats using a combination of smarts as well as fighting ability. While never caught, Scarecrow's defeat comes at Batman neutralizing his fear toxin. The choice of a hefty Deathstroke tells me that Ben Affleck's Batman (or probably the DCEU's) is that they're simply going to treat Batman as a punchyman. TheIncredulousHulk posted:I might be misremembering but I'm pretty sure it's the phrase for trained goats that slaughterhouses use to guide the livestock in when it's time for them to get butchered Yeah. I remember first running into the phrase in The Wild Bunch, when the railroad man Harrigan refers to Deke Thornton as a "Judas goat", because he was friends with the leaders of the gang and knows how they operate, so the bounty hunters can easily track the gang. Young Freud fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Sep 1, 2016 |
|
#
?
Sep 1, 2016 23:47
|
|
|
Snowglobe of Doom posted:It really does have to be seen to be believed: Ah yes the fine Hollywood tradition of evil blonde aryan murder bad guys, thanks
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 00:41
|
|
|
TheIncredulousHulk posted:I might be misremembering but I'm pretty sure it's the phrase for trained goats that slaughterhouses use to guide the livestock in when it's time for them to get butchered Oh, right. Duh.
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 00:51
|
|
|
mind the walrus posted:I seriously wonder what DC's fascination with this story and The Dark Knight Returns is. Like it's pathological at this point. Sales numbers.
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 01:32
|
|
|
Iron man, Thor, captain America, Ant man, and now black panther not only didn't sell well, they were barely even known to anyone outside of turbonerds. Granted the only reason they used those characters was because they didn't have the rights to their the biggest properties-- Xmen, Spiderman, and fantastic four. Even so the characters they chose used their comic origins in the majority of cases, and those stories were hardly hot sellers. My point is, DC can make bank if they ventured further outside their comfort zone in a way that doesn't involve catering to the absolute worst Batman fans.
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 05:35
|
|
|
they are catering to writers and directors who think the characters they are supposed to make movies about are hopelessly dumb. no one involved cares about super heroes or making good movies people will enjoy.
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 05:45
|
|
|
Jerk McJerkface posted:It's almost as if that movie is the fourth one in a franchise that has already established his character and the other one is the first time he fights anything at his level and doesn't know what's going on. Yeah no, it's more like the director completely fails to grasp the source material he's trying to adapt the same way he failed with Watchmen and to a lesser extent, 300 e: and if you're not familiar with how he hosed up with 300: http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2013/09/300.html quote:Based on Frank Miller's graphic novel of the same name, the film betrays a lot of the same macho aesthetic as Robert Rodriguez's adaptation of Miller's Sin City--but rather than content itself with the literally bestial terms of glory in the masculine psyche, it makes a play for allegory and equivocal morality (of all things) in the valorization of Sparta and the romanticization of a crushing military defeat. It's not that Leonidas is seen martyred in the end in a tableau explicitly meant to evoke the passion of St. Sebastian, but that he goes out pining for his wife like a lovesick hamster, thus completing 300's devolution from remorseless Spartan militarism into gushy democratic idealism and all manner of liberal maladies. There's little profit in establishing the rules of this universe as uncompromising and brutal (it opens on a field of infant skulls--victims of a Spartan culling ritual of its own kind) if its intentions split time between justifying, in non-chest-beating terms, the decision to pit three-hundred against thousands while denying the Spartans their individual moments of "beautiful death" in favour of some collective date with pyrrhic immortality. History suggests that the Spartans, having exhausted their arms, died scratching and clawing with their bare hands; 300 suggests they died calling for their mothers and wives. Flesh Forge fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Sep 2, 2016 |
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 05:52
|
|
|
Hmm what would happen if I took this story that is good, and replaced everything good with something bad 
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 06:11
|
|
|
Serious Frolicking posted:they are catering to writers and directors who think the characters they are supposed to make movies about are hopelessly dumb. no one involved cares about super heroes or making good movies people will enjoy.
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 06:11
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 06:32
|
|
|
anyway if they are really using deathstroke as a batman villain, they kind of have to make him a big slow guy. the part has to be played by an older guy, and older guys aren't lithe and agile. so, some old gently caress is gonna have his head poking out of the silly costume at some point. the alternatives are de-aging the character or compositing the head on a completely cgi body. that is entirely too much effort for something no one including the people making the movie give a gently caress about.
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 06:38
|
|
|
Flesh Forge posted:Ie: and if you're not familiar with how he hosed up with 300: I'd you haven't seen the sequel, do it. It's a deliberate "gently caress you" to Snyder's bullshit and Eva Green needs to be seen because holy gently caress is she gloriously insane as the main villain. It's about Salamis and Athenians winning a giant naval battle against Persia. It's all the weak "potters and farmers" the Spartans poo poo on in the first movie and they explicitly mention how meatheaded the Spartans are.
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 06:41
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 06:50
|
|
|
mind the walrus posted:I'd you haven't seen the sequel, do it. It's a deliberate "gently caress you" to Snyder's bullshit and Eva Green needs to be seen because holy gently caress is she gloriously insane as the main villain. It's about Salamis and Athenians winning a giant naval battle against Persia. It's all the weak "potters and farmers" the Spartans poo poo on in the first movie and they explicitly mention how meatheaded the Spartans are. None of us are going to watch a dogshit movie so that we can subvert another dogshit movie.
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 07:14
|
|
|
K
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 07:29
|
|
|
Who else thinks that Superman Batman and Lois Lane should have a threesome? I would watch it.
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 07:42
|
|
|
Nirvikalpa posted:Who else thinks that Superman Batman and Lois Lane should have a threesome? I would watch it. Ain't that in the porn parody? Serious Frolicking posted:anyway if they are really using deathstroke as a batman villain, they kind of have to make him a big slow guy. the part has to be played by an older guy, and older guys aren't lithe and agile. so, some old gently caress is gonna have his head poking out of the silly costume at some point. the alternatives are de-aging the character or compositing the head on a completely cgi body. that is entirely too much effort for something no one including the people making the movie give a gently caress about. I think Affleck might give a gently caress, but that's more because he's not a shite film maker like Snyder. I hear that JK Simmons is going to be Jim Gordon, so that might be a, small, thing to look forward to.
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 11:30
|
|
|
ultrabindu posted:Ain't that in the porn parody? Porn parody is actually Supes and Bats double-teaming and glazing Wonder Woman.
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 19:19
|
|
|
huh, so in the porn parody wonder woman actually accomplishes something.
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 19:20
|
|
|
Serious Frolicking posted:huh, so in the porn parody wonder woman actually accomplishes something. And the women that Axel Braun has chosen to play Wonder Woman (Kimberly Kane in the standalone title and Alison Tyler in the Beavis parody) actually look the part.
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 21:04
|
|
|
Young Freud posted:And the women that Axel Braun has chosen to play Wonder Woman (Kimberly Kane in the standalone title and Alison Tyler in the Beavis parody) actually look the part. Christ, try being more goony.
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 21:11
|
|
|
OneThousandMonkeys posted:Christ, try being more goony. TBF, I only learned their names just doing a quick Google search.
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2016 21:17
|
|
|
I laughed out loud in the theater during 300 when the Spartans call the Athenians a bunch of boy-lovers. I don't think anyone else got why that line was particularly absurd. 
|
|
#
?
Sep 3, 2016 07:31
|
|
|
formalized pederasty is one of the weirdest things in history.
|
|
#
?
Sep 3, 2016 11:28
|
|
|
Pvt.Scott posted:I laughed out loud in the theater during 300 when the Spartans call the Athenians a bunch of boy-lovers. I don't think anyone else got why that line was particularly absurd. That's definitely some "pot calling the kettle black" poo poo.
|
|
#
?
Sep 3, 2016 11:35
|
|
|
Groovelord Neato posted:formalized pederasty is one of the weirdest things in history. Then why was it so common across cultures? Everyone wanted a bit of the boipussy back then.
|
|
#
?
Sep 3, 2016 11:47
|
|
|
Nirvikalpa posted:Then why was it so common across cultures? Everyone wanted a bit of the boipussy back then. Back then? It's still widely prevalent in parts of the Middle East.
|
|
#
?
Sep 3, 2016 11:58
|
|
|
Nirvikalpa posted:Then why was it so common across cultures? Everyone wanted a bit of the boipussy back then. oftentimes it was boithigh
|
|
#
?
Sep 3, 2016 12:14
|
|
|
What else are you gonna do with all these bois
|
|
#
?
Sep 3, 2016 12:22
|
|
|
Groovelord Neato posted:oftentimes it was boithigh yeah lmao intercrural sex is pretty hot and very underrated
|
|
#
?
Sep 3, 2016 13:52
|
|
|
I'm watchin the watchmen (lol) and like yeah, you can tell there's lots of poo poo Snyder just doesn't get about the graphic novel and there's so much poo poo he inexplicably changed and important themes he left out entirely and he tries a bunch of times to shoehorn in his own ideas alongside the ideas in the original story which are frequently completely at odds with each other because he doesn't understand that rorschach is not actually the good guy for example and the "great at slo-mo and nothing else"/"he should be making music videos, not movies" complaints are really REALLY obvious in this movie but everyone shits crazy hard on the hallelujah scene, and i dont entirely get the hate. Is it because he's trying to be ironic by using thatsong for a sex scene but doesnt understand that the song is actually about loving? Is it that nite owls fetishism over that golden age hero poo poo was better left subtle and not with a big old sign shining "hey this guy can't get hard without wearin his fuckin costume lol"? Huh I guess I do get why everyone hates it
|
|
#
?
Sep 4, 2016 04:37
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 7, 2024 05:43 |
|
|
The most annoying part was the lead-up where I and many others were dismissed as being Comic Book Guys for saying "no seriously guys this isn't going to work in live-action." Granted I was also at a low point in my life and my writing was poo poo, but those were incidental.
|
|
#
?
Sep 4, 2016 04:49
|
|