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It's OK to think the game's bad but give better reasons than "it's smaller" (of course it is) and "it's worse than these others." Being worse than three really good games doesn't make it bad. Anyway, I'm excited for the Yarn Yoshi video shorts.
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My beef with Federation Force is less "you can't be Samus" and more "the Federation is the most boring thing in all of Metroid". They exist because sci-fi stories are supposed to have a Federation, and they have the generic look that such Federations are supposed to have. Boilerplate from top to bottom. If there were a non-Samus Metroid game where you play as a Chozo hero, it would be pretty cool I think, because the Chozo are actually intriguing and aesthetically interesting.
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Supercar Gautier posted:My beef with Federation Force is less "you can't be Samus" and more "the Federation is the most boring thing in all of Metroid". They exist because sci-fi stories are supposed to have a Federation, and they have the generic look that such Federations are supposed to have. Boilerplate from top to bottom. I wish they had gone harder on the sub weapons and made it more like Triforce Heroes where you need different people with different items to coordinate to do stuff. As it is they're mostly used to get better gear. The specialization is kind of neat, so you can be a primary healer/debuff/dps or whatever, but it's relatively light.
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Sep 1, 2016 19:19
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Poor reception and low sales of a Metroid game could prevent future Metroid games from being made. Can we at least agree on that? Upon launch in Japan, it sold a little over 4000 copies the entire first week. well there's that and the fact that japan does not like nor care about metroid, and never has
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Supercar Gautier posted:My beef with Federation Force is less "you can't be Samus" and more "the Federation is the most boring thing in all of Metroid". They exist because sci-fi stories are supposed to have a Federation, and they have the generic look that such Federations are supposed to have. Boilerplate from top to bottom. On top of the generic concept behind the game, there are plenty of other issues with the game that people have brought up. I personally think the controls were pretty meh, part of this is from limitations of the 3DS for sure, but I didn't really find shooting all that fun to do even taking those things into consideration. The few weapons you get are universally unsatisfying to use, from a visual or gameplay standpoint, which is kinda not a good thing for a shooter of any kind. Even shooters based off "first person adventures" like the Prime games (which handled all the beams and missiles in each respective game much better on every level.) It also doesn't help that the game feels slow as all hell. Combat feels slow, general movement feels slow. Metroid Prime isn't known for being a super fast game, but the pace in the levels I played was entirely plodding and inspired no interest to keep going. I felt as though the game sacrificed a lot of potentially interesting things you could do in a multiplayer setting AND a Metroid setting for the sake of simplicity. Metroid gives players Ice Beams and Wave Beams and other interesting tools to navigate the environment with. The toolkit in FedForce felt anemic by comparison, and I didn't feel like there was a lot of interesting ways to use what you did have in multiplayer. I returned the game after the first day. If it goes dirt cheap I might try it again, just to see some of the later missions for myself. I really wanted to like the game a lot more, on paper the idea of expanding the overall Metroid universe is something I can get behind. The first three Prime games did an AMAZING of this, imo. Other M and Fed Force, not so much. BillmasterCozb posted:well there's that and the fact that japan does not like nor care about metroid, and never has No other Metroid game has debuted so poorly in Japan, even Prime 1-3 managed better. fivegears4reverse fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Sep 1, 2016 |
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Sep 1, 2016 19:38
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I can't wait to play Metroid Prime Federation Force 2 on my Nintendo NX.
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Sep 1, 2016 19:50
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it sold worse than wonderful 101 (5000) but better than codename STEAM (1400)
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Sep 1, 2016 19:50
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Codename STEAM was that game where the developers somehow misunderstood the point of the story of John Henry's Hammer and made John Henry a cyborg, right?
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Sep 1, 2016 19:52
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maybe they did it because it's way cooler than however the grandpa story goes
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Sep 1, 2016 20:00
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I liked Codename STEAM's demo, but then I never realized that the game came out
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Sep 1, 2016 20:00
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Just make peace with the fact that the metroid franchise peaked with Super Metroid and it might feel better. Works for me
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Sep 1, 2016 21:08
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zero mission, fusion, and the metroid 2 fan game all came out after super metroid though
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oddium posted:zero mission, fusion, and the metroid 2 fan game all came out after super metroid though Yeah
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Sep 1, 2016 21:16
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I don't really like the controls of Super Metroid.
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Sep 1, 2016 21:20
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Prime series was great. Where's the new sin and punishment Nintendo
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Sep 1, 2016 21:54
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Prediction:- Nintendo will not announce the NX in September, they will announce in November and release in the summer. because I think it's really insane that we're still nowhere near informed on what the gently caress the NX is this close to release.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Codename STEAM was that game where the developers somehow misunderstood the point of the story of John Henry's Hammer and made John Henry a cyborg, right? If memory serves, his in-game bio makes it clear that John Henry becoming a cyborg is a cruel irony, that he has unwillingly become what he was fighting against. They subverted his story intentionally. It's basically a steampunk version of Deus Ex's 'I didn't ask for this.'
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Sep 1, 2016 22:07
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Al-Saqr posted:Prediction:- They already said it's coming out in March. Announcing in November seems like a bad idea to me, because they want to sell 3DSs and Classic Minis this holiday season. I think they'll announce the NX this month, early October at the absolute latest
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xedo posted:If memory serves, his in-game bio makes it clear that John Henry becoming a cyborg is a cruel irony, that he has unwillingly become what he was fighting against. They subverted his story intentionally. It's basically a steampunk version of Deus Ex's 'I didn't ask for this.' This game sounds kind of awesome, but everyone hates it so it must play badly?
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xedo posted:If memory serves, his in-game bio makes it clear that John Henry becoming a cyborg is a cruel irony, that he has unwillingly become what he was fighting against. They subverted his story intentionally. It's basically a steampunk version of Deus Ex's 'I didn't ask for this.' That sounds dumb. It would be cool if he had just punched robots apart with his bare hands
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Sep 1, 2016 22:11
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Nintendo is going to bring back Space World... and just have 3DS games at it. Then show off the NX in a surprise direct a week later.
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Sep 1, 2016 22:15
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greatn posted:I don't really like the controls of Super Metroid. Agreed, they're godawful. Once you've mastered them it's fun to do tricks like walljumping and shinesparking if there are no actual threats in the room but if there were any semblance of difficulty in that game it would be intolerable to play with the way Samus handles.
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Sep 1, 2016 22:18
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It's just going to be a direct. They'll invite press and influencers(popular YouTubers) to play it over the coming weeks after, but the initial reveal will be just a direct where they have total, complete control over messaging. There's not going to be a show, there will be tech and gaming journalists given invitations as well as people like matpat and jirard the competitionist brought in for tailored experiences very soon afterward.
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BillmasterCozb posted:metroid federation force murdered my family and made me pay 40 bucks for it rip your wallet.
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greatn posted:It's just going to be a direct. They'll invite press and influencers(popular YouTubers) to play it over the coming weeks after, but the initial reveal will be just a direct where they have total, complete control over messaging. There's not going to be a show, there will be tech and gaming journalists given invitations as well as people like matpat and jirard the competitionist brought in for tailored experiences very soon afterward. I hope they don't invite MatPat to any more things. MatPat is awful
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It's probably going to be a direct and then later that day the press will be able to go to an event in Japan and San Fran where sets of pretty asian ladies will have NX base and the handheld units chained to them.
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Sep 1, 2016 22:36
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Sep 1, 2016 22:43
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Dexo posted:It's probably going to be a direct and then later that day the press will be able to go to an event in Japan and San Fran where sets of pretty asian ladies will have NX base and the handheld units chained to them. Probably Korean ladies, given Japan's history
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Sep 1, 2016 22:49
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Kashuno posted:Prime series was great. Well if we're getting little detachable motion controls I'm gonna guess it's a launch title. I did actually just get the Wii one and it is super fun. How's the N64 one?
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Sep 1, 2016 22:54
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greatn posted:Probably Korean ladies, given Japan's history Lol
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8-Bit Scholar posted:This game sounds kind of awesome, but everyone hates it so it must play badly? I got it for $20 and enjoyed it. I might have been disappointed if it was $40 at the time? It scratched my itch for Valkyria Chronicles gameplay. Turn based, third person shooting with strategic elements. It gets easier if you don't go for the optional medals on each level, and easiest if you use Lion's jump ability to break the game. And the voice cast has some great talent. But I think I'm the only human that enjoyed this game, by all appearances.
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xedo posted:If memory serves, his in-game bio makes it clear that John Henry becoming a cyborg is a cruel irony, that he has unwillingly become what he was fighting against. They subverted his story intentionally. It's basically a steampunk version of Deus Ex's 'I didn't ask for this.' I thought they already did a gritty remake of bionic commando
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Sep 1, 2016 23:01
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Are amiibos worth anything other than their msrp? Found a classic color 8 bit mario and I wanna use it unless I can flip it for a good chunk of cheese
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Calaveron posted:Are amiibos worth anything other than their msrp? Found a classic color 8 bit mario and I wanna use it unless I can flip it for a good chunk of cheese pretty much all amiibo are only worth their MSRP now
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Kashuno posted:pretty much all amiibo are only worth their MSRP now Excellent. At any rate I'd probably never have enough aspergers to collect stuff for selling later.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Is it possible they'll reveal the NX after the release? You're walking down the street, turn the corner and Miyamoto is just standing two feet away from you. He presses the box into your hands but before you can ask any questions he has disappeared into the crowd. Later you realize that the credit card that you buy Virtual Console games with has been charged $300.
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HMS Boromir posted:Agreed, they're godawful. Once you've mastered them it's fun to do tricks like walljumping and shinesparking if there are no actual threats in the room but if there were any semblance of difficulty in that game it would be intolerable to play with the way Samus handles. Are we talking about the actual physics and handling of Samus? I don't remember really having any problem with the controls the first time I played it. I just needed to configure the face buttons to be mapped in a way I liked. I will admit that Samus is much floatier in Super Metroid than in later entries though.
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Sep 2, 2016 01:27
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The mechanics of cycling through weapons kind of sucks, too. The controls of Fusion are so much better.
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fusion is much prettier, has stellar controls, very atmospheric, great fights ah but it tells you where to go with dialogue
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i loved the nes, snes and all the gameboy titles. never got to play the prime series
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