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flashy_mcflash posted:I'm not sure she's much less popular than last time around. Ontario's proven that they'll keep voting Lib unless there's a real alternative, and if Hudak wasn't it, I don't think Brown is either. The Sun...the actual Toronto Sun wrote an editorial slamming Brown the other day. All the op eds I've seen lately are from their noted liberal haters so I'll have to check this out.
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jm20 posted:Wynne is becoming intensely unpopular on the ground with the roll out of her new strategy Taxes, Taxes, Taxes and the OPC vaguely supporting/not supporting sex ed rollbacks. Are you implying the hydro rates arent stupid high in Ontario?
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patonthebach posted:Are you implying the hydro rates arent stupid high in Ontario? Hydro is like 10c a kwh for 12 hours a day, that's the lowest in north america maybe even the world.
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Ikantski posted:Hydro is like 10c a kwh for 12 hours a day, that's the lowest in north america maybe even the world.  What? E: Consumers: May 1, 2006:
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Hydro rates for families have nearly doubled in the last ten years. That's going to upset a lot of people. Fluffy Chainsaw fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Sep 1, 2016 |
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At this point the liberals have free reign to do anything they want.
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Fluffy Chainsaw posted:
Privatization in action! And before someone corrects me, privatization was started in 1998 by guess who?
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Privatization in action! B-bob Rae?  No, Pierre Elliot Trudeau!
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patonthebach posted:Are you implying the hydro rates arent stupid high in Ontario? We're about average for NA now, but the rates did double. http://www.hydroquebec.com/publications/en/docs/comparaison-electricity-prices/comp_2015_en.pdf Fluffy Chainsaw posted:
They see Taxes Taxes Taxes and get Mad MAd MAD.
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Is Kellie leitcha lesbian? Lmao yet another prominent homo Tory
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Just got off an IV fentanyl drip for surgery. Don't see what the fuss is, I didn't even like it as much as nitrous.
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Privatization in action! People are a lot less likely to tie dramatic increases in electricity to a barely remembered, half-implemented 1998 scheme that was intended to create a retail market for electricity and are a lot more likely to associate it with the current government and the current government's intention to sell off Hydro One (yes, even if the dates don't line up).
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infernal machines posted:Just got off an IV fentanyl drip for surgery. Don't see what the fuss is, I didn't even like it as much as nitrous. Vice drug tips quote:Don't take anything by yourself Lol personal naloxone kits are a thing now ed wow i missed that Ontario started selling these guys OTC in July
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infernal machines posted:Just got off an IV fentanyl drip for surgery. Don't see what the fuss is, I didn't even like it as much as nitrous. Where in that quote do I claim that fentanyl is not dangerous? I was simply saying it's a bad high and not some instantly addictive bogeyman as it's been portrayed. It's still an incredibly dangerous drug that poses a significant threat to public health when used outside a medical setting. Edit: okay, reading that quote again I see how it could be misinterpreted. Forgive my imprecision as I was high as gently caress on fentanyl at the time. PT6A fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Sep 1, 2016 |
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Fluffy Chainsaw posted:People are a lot less likely to tie dramatic increases in electricity to a barely remembered, half-implemented 1998 scheme that was intended to create a retail market for electricity and are a lot more likely to associate it with the current government and the current government's intention to sell off Hydro One (yes, even if the dates don't line up). Hydro prices rose from low to average because Mike Harris was a madman and because we needed to get off dirty coal and ah I can't do this. I'm up to 27c/kwh now all in. $190 bill with $12 of mid peak and $18 of on peak, it's crazy. Last winter was easy but if this winter is cold, a lot of people will be pissed off. Poor people survive without AC, they don't do so well without heat and it's hard to only heat during off hours.
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Ikantski posted:Hydro prices rose from low to average because Mike Harris was a madman and because we needed to get off dirty coal and ah I can't do this. I'm up to 27c/kwh now all in. $190 bill with $12 of mid peak and $18 of on peak, it's crazy. Last winter was easy but if this winter is cold, a lot of people will be pissed off. Poor people survive without AC, they don't do so well without heat and it's hard to only heat during off hours. Electric heating is awful and will bankrupt you, doubly so if you are paying rural rates like you seem to be. Why don't you give superior a call and get on board?
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Ikantski posted:Hydro prices rose from low to average because Mike Harris was a madman and because we needed to get off dirty coal and ah I can't do this. I'm up to 27c/kwh now all in. $190 bill with $12 of mid peak and $18 of on peak, it's crazy. Last winter was easy but if this winter is cold, a lot of people will be pissed off. Poor people survive without AC, they don't do so well without heat and it's hard to only heat during off hours. My last monthly bill was $107 for a two-bedroom apartment, only running the A/C during off-peak hours when it was most badly needed. Absolutely crazy.
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Ikantski posted:Hydro is like 10c a kwh for 12 hours a day, that's the lowest in north america maybe even the world. You gotta factor in global adjustment and delivery. I get a lot of this thread has the view of a 20 something guy in a 500 sq foot apartment in Toronto, but imagine for a second you live in a real house in a low density area. You are paying 20-30 cents a kwh. Thats very high. My hydro bills can range from 300-600 a month.
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patonthebach posted:I get a lot of this thread has the view of a 20 something guy in a 500 sq foot apartment in Toronto, but imagine for a second you live in a real house in a low density area. The guy you're replying to lives on a "farm" in rural Ontario. His particular brand of dry sarcasm seems to miss the mark around here.
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They are handing naxolone kits out in Vancouver's DTES now in an effort to keep the body count down.
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I know some folks who live in cottage country full-time in their cottage. It has a heated in-door swimming pool. Their hydro bill is around $1000-1500 in the winter time.
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My hydro bill is 35/month in Vancouver in a 4 year old 1-bedroom apartment, it's great. Heat in the winter, little portable a/c unit in the summer.
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PT6A didn't report any hearing loss so I don't know who to believe now.
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patonthebach posted:You gotta factor in global adjustment and delivery. I get a lot of this thread has the view of a 20 something guy in a 500 sq foot apartment in Toronto, but imagine for a second you live in a real house in a low density area. You are paying 20-30 cents a kwh. Thats very high. My hydro bills can range from 300-600 a month. Yeah, I stay away from electricity chat because I enjoy my current avatar. Global adjustment is already factored into ToU pricing though and prices have more than doubled. I like this chart for people who say our prices are only average. Even an Ontario elementary school teacher should be able to figure out this calculus. jm20 posted:Electric heating is awful and will bankrupt you, doubly so if you are paying rural rates like you seem to be. Why don't you give superior a call and get on board? We heat with wood pellets but the math worked out just to put the hot water/dryer/stove/oven on propane except that triggered my wife talking about a kitchen remodel and then the math didn't work anymore. Hot water tank is definitely our biggest culprit, wish we had a natural gas hookup. Postess with the Mostest fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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Fojar38 posted:China's state media is lighting up with Trudeau's kowtowing as a source of CCP legitimacy and its AIIB heralding a new global order. From a couple pages back but canola is actually pretty huge out West, which I didn't realize until this China thing started making headlines. Saskatchewan exports $4.5 billion a year of canola products, and $1 billion of that goes to China. Saskatchewan's entire GDP is only like $80 billion, and it's already in a recession. If the canola rules go ahead it's gonna be really lovely for us.
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Ikantski posted:Yeah, I stay away from electricity chat because I enjoy my current avatar. Global adjustment is already factored into ToU pricing though and prices have more than doubled. Propane's pretty good, until there's a shortage like there was a few years ago; then things get expensive pretty quickly.
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Guy DeBorgore posted:From a couple pages back but canola is actually pretty huge out West, which I didn't realize until this China thing started making headlines. Saskatchewan exports $4.5 billion a year of canola products, and $1 billion of that goes to China. Saskatchewan's entire GDP is only like $80 billion, and it's already in a recession. If the canola rules go ahead it's gonna be really lovely for us. And the Chinese know this and they're using it to squeeze Trudeau's testicles, and it's working because heaven forbid our GDP be based on anything other than commodity exports.
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Fojar38 posted:China's state media is lighting up with Trudeau's kowtowing as a source of CCP legitimacy and its AIIB heralding a new global order. What actually was given up for the extension? I cannot find anything about it.
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ocrumsprug posted:What actually was given up for the extension? I cannot find anything about it. We're "joining" the new Chinese led bank.
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People have called Kevin O'Leary Canada's Donald Trump, but why not Kellie Leitch?quote:Leitch asks if Ottawa should screen immigrants for 'anti-Canadian values' Looks like the lessons of the last election are completely lost on her. 
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Colour me pleasantly surprisedquote:With 167 of 234 polls in Scarborough-Rouge River reporting late Thursday, Raymond Cho looked set to snatch away Scarborough-Rouge River from Premier Kathleen Wynne’s government, holding 40 per cent of the vote to Liberal Piragal Thiru’s 29 per cent and 26 per cent for the NDP’s Neethan Shan.
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Ikantski posted:Yeah, I stay away from electricity chat because I enjoy my current avatar. Global adjustment is already factored into ToU pricing though and prices have more than doubled. We live in the middle of nowhere and use propane for heat. This is about what an average bill looks like for ourselves and our neighbours... 
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patonthebach posted:We live in the middle of nowhere and use propane for heat. This is about what an average bill looks like for ourselves and our neighbours... Thank God for that debt retirement charge exemption!
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Ceciltron posted:We're "joining" the new Chinese led bank. I assume that is like when China "joined" the WTO? Concern level: low
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ocrumsprug posted:I assume that is like when China "joined" the WTO? It means we'll have to suck china's rancid economic dick, because we're all about following the rules of lovely agreements while getting walked on by our trade partners
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patonthebach posted:We live in the middle of nowhere and use propane for heat. This is about what an average bill looks like for ourselves and our neighbours... That's like 3x the average household electricity usage. You know you can just plant the pot outside in the summer eh?
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Ikantski posted:That's like 3x the average household electricity usage. You know you can just plant the pot outside in the summer eh? Summer air conditioning plus lots of laundry and then if you got a few electric fences and what not. That isn't my bill but I've had all around that range.
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ocrumsprug posted:I assume that is like when China "joined" the WTO? In the larger sense, Canada joining the AIIB doesn't matter that much because it still lacks the United States and Japan, the world's largest and third largest economies respectively, meaning the bank is going to be hamstrung for the foreseeable future. It does however mean that China gets to claim Canada's head for its trophy wall because it contributes to the "China rising and displacing America" narrative.
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Ikantski posted:Colour me pleasantly surprised Doug's never going to shut up now. 
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