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oddium posted:mr 3's wax stuff ruled. magellan's poison was baller. controlling cookie crumbs to make impenetrable shadow clones... it's sweet
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Space-Bird posted:That would be amazing. Uh excuse me his name is Bropper.
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Sep 1, 2016 22:42
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Space-Bird posted:maybe luffy just needs to learn he doesn't need to be the strongest to be the strongest the secret was friendship this whole time
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Sep 1, 2016 23:34
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Keep in mind he probably can't use haki on the biscuit clones he isn't touching so they'll significantly weaker than the one Luffy fought.
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Sep 1, 2016 23:44
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OApFUOqNnq4 rip Luffy's dub actresses's voice
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Sep 1, 2016 23:47
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Shoren posted:Something I was thinking about after seeing Luffy go to Gear Fourth so suddenly, and something I've considered for a long time, is how Luffy compares to Roger in terms of strength. We're pretty sure that Roger didn't have a devil fruit and it's likely that they simply weren't common when he was sailing because the age of pirates hadn't yet begun. As such it was important to be strong, but at the same time you didn't necessarily need to worry about fighting a guy that can control shadows, turn into a T-Rex, or is made of lightning. Roger had the gum gum fruit my friend.
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Sep 2, 2016 02:38
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oddium posted:mr 3's wax stuff ruled. magellan's poison was baller. controlling cookie crumbs to make impenetrable shadow clones... To be fair, Mr. 3 could manipulate the Candle Champion and Magellan could make that giant Demon Poison thing, so there's precedent. It's just taken to a new level since this guy is a Yonkou's Commander. I was annoyed too for a moment, thinking "This is a bit overpowered, isn't it?" til I remembered those two and Doffy's string tricks. It's power creepy, but not by much considering the new scale. Also agh, break. There's too much cool stuff happening to stop now. Also, as great a name as Bropper is, I don't know if that short interaction deserved the title name, I was hoping for more mirror world antics.
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Sep 2, 2016 02:47
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I love the steam the Rubber Roger train got when we got the wonky translation that made it seem like Rayleigh knew about Gear Fourth already, but it turned out to be a TL error. The theory doesnt have much to stand on besides Luffy having lots in common with Roger and Shanks holding onto the fruit.
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Sep 2, 2016 02:49
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Don't forget this manga also had a guy who could slap you halfway across the world on account of the fact that he had bear paw pads on his hands.
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Sep 2, 2016 03:08
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anime was right posted:the secret was friendship this whole time it drat well better be  NAKAMA
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Sep 2, 2016 03:12
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i don't think manipulating cookie crumbs on the atomic level to create whatever power stand-in oda needs is overpowered for one piece, i just think it's kind of dumb
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Sep 2, 2016 03:14
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oddium posted:i don't think manipulating cookie crumbs on the atomic level to create whatever power stand-in oda needs is overpowered for one piece, i just think it's kind of dumb I think it's pretty neat, because the take away to me is "it actually doesn't matter how silly your 'power' is, it's the will to do something cool with it."
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Sep 2, 2016 03:27
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Space-Bird posted:I think it's pretty neat, because the take away to me is "it actually doesn't matter how silly your 'power' is, it's the will to do something cool with it." Exactly. And the converse has also been true: Even if your power should be broken, in the hands of an idiot it's meaningless.
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Sep 2, 2016 03:39
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yeah but why cookies at that point. he could have the power to create and control grass and nothing substantial in this chapter would have to change. he could even keep his biscuit themed armor made of individual grass cells shaped like whatever
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Sep 2, 2016 03:41
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Well, powers thematically matching with Big Mom's wonderland crew.
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oddium posted:yeah but why cookies at that point. he could have the power to create and control grass and nothing substantial in this chapter would have to change. he could even keep his biscuit themed armor made of individual grass cells shaped like whatever The whole point of this power being cookies is to see Luffy punch a man in two, but the guy crumbles like a cookie. It was a pretty neat effect. Or else the point will be the gag where Luffy eats him, assuming that's where we're headed. This ability honestly makes more sense than Doflamingo's string clones. (He made sunglasses and stuff out of... string?) Devil fruit powers have pretty crazy applications, and we're seeing the most crazy advanced users in the world at this point.
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Sep 2, 2016 04:02
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Wanna see Luffy eat the poo poo out of those powers
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Xarbala posted:Wanna see Luffy eat the poo poo out of those powers With Haki teeth.
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Sep 2, 2016 05:28
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Space-Bird posted:I think it's pretty neat, because the take away to me is "it actually doesn't matter how silly your 'power' is, it's the will to do something cool with it." friendship punch.
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Sep 2, 2016 06:13
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Sinners Sandwich posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OApFUOqNnq4 Holy cow, we're really close to dubbed timeskip (not including Film Z)! Too bad the show was just animated so poorly after a while, but at least the dub is really good. Can't wait to see how they do the Fakehats.
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Sep 2, 2016 06:47
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anime was right posted:he says that gear 4 is too big a toll on luffys body which is the key part. it implies that he needs to do something other than gear 4. it would make sense he has a final powerup to rely on and show before he has to get the Actual Final Powerup he figures out vs like Blackbeard or someone I just want a proper slugfest between 2 garp-strength level normals.
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Sep 2, 2016 08:24
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Advice posted:I love the steam the Rubber Roger train got when we got the wonky translation that made it seem like Rayleigh knew about Gear Fourth already, but it turned out to be a TL error. i really hope i'm wrong but its going to happen
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Sep 2, 2016 08:55
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Jose posted:i really hope i'm wrong but its going to happen this is like what happened when i was posting i wish sabo wasn't alive. ppl kept getting mad "he definitely is alive!!" but couldnt understand that i figured as much but that i wish it wasn't hte case. same w/ roger having gum gum. cookie powers a bit dumb, i agree w/ the grass-guy, its kinda a standin power for "do anything" really
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Sep 2, 2016 09:00
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If Luffy has Roger's fruit wouldn't the world government have been all over him when they found out? They have a pattern of wanting anything with the slightest link to him dead right now.
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Sep 2, 2016 09:01
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Cookie Man is funny, I fully expect Luffy to literally eat his way out of this fight Power-wise, it's pretty bad, tho. It's clear as day many fights have rarely anything to do with the powers involved anymore, every creative ability turns generic until it's just TWO STRONG ATTACKS CLASHING BUT ONE WINS FOR NO DISCERNIBLE REASON again. Not gonna lie, I'm kinda starting to dislike longer fights in One Piece for this exact reason; when it's a giant clusterfuck of short and sweet battles everywhere, it's really fun to see the insanity in action. But in longer fights, it gets painful how generic the action gets. Mind you, this is complaining on a high level - this is still super-excellent shonen! Not to mention full with great designs and nice ideas. But I am reminded again and again, especially with recent longer fights, that all these super-cool abilities pretty much don't matter, and quickly devolve into whatever generic thing the plot demands right now (mostly "generic projectile", "generic power clash" or "generic timer for dangerous event"). It's weird how I seem to like One Piece the most when there aren't any drawn-out battles, because many (recently???) just aren't written very well. Feel free to disregard this as pointless nagging, I'm just sad we often don't get the full potential for insanity that all these powers would have. 
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sharktamer posted:If Luffy has Roger's fruit wouldn't the world government have been all over him when they found out? They have a pattern of wanting anything with the slightest link to him dead right now. That's why it will be insanely dumb
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There's way too many people who knew Roger personally who have never mentioned it, though. I get that Garp would have concealed it because knowing it might encourage Luffy to become a pirate, and I guess Shanks might have not wanted Luffy to believe he was special because of a coincidence like that...but Buggy, Whitebeard, Sengoku, Shiki (arguably non-canon but still Oda-created), and Rayleigh all should have known as well, and never show any indication of knowing. And that's just the people who would have seen Roger fight; including people who saw Roger in person in other contexts (Crocus, Smoker) and people who have plausible reasons for knowing secondhand, and there's a good dozen people who should know about Roger's Devil Fruit but give no indication of knowing. Edit: To give a specific point: If Roger was a Rubberman, then Buggy would have either run away or begged for his life the moment he saw Luffy stretch his arm. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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Sep 2, 2016 09:24
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Torquemadras posted:Cookie Man is funny, I fully expect Luffy to literally eat his way out of this fight Oda has used the "generic timer for dangerous event" plot device repeatedly starting in Arabasta; it's not just a recent thing.
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Sep 2, 2016 09:28
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Jose posted:That's why it will be insanely dumb
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I'd be disappointed if Roger had a DF instead of being an extremely charismatic, insanely strong fight man. nothing else really makes sense. The power to get otherwise incredibly self-interested, powerful people rallying under you by being a real swell guy. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 10:54 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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Sep 2, 2016 10:52
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Don't forget the Minks that were on Roger's ship. You'd think that any of Roger's crew introduced this late in the game would mention it.
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Sep 2, 2016 10:56
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Roger had an uncurable disease. Luffy using the fruit like he does is killing him. Choppers dream is to cure an uncurable illness or something
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Sep 2, 2016 11:01
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Jose posted:Roger had an uncurable disease. Luffy using the fruit like he does is killing him. Choppers dream is to cure an uncurable illness or something Chopper makes an immortality medicine "Knowing That I wont die? Who wants a boring life like that?"
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Sep 2, 2016 11:05
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Jose posted:Roger had an uncurable disease. Luffy using the fruit like he does is killing him. Choppers dream is to cure an uncurable illness or something I don't think the side effects of Gear 2nd are an illness.
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Sep 2, 2016 11:08
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What is the exact count of things that Luffy should be dying of by now?
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DizzyBum posted:Holy cow, we're really close to dubbed timeskip (not including Film Z)! They are actually going to dub 3D2Ymbefore the time skip so they can get that license out. Cool idea but probably a bad introduction to the red hawk
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Sep 2, 2016 12:20
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Has there actually been any mention of Luffy's gears destroying his body since the one time Chopper says it on Thriller Bark? I think that might be a dropped plot thread, but then again this is Oda so he'll probably come back to it in another 5 years
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Kabanaw posted:Has there actually been any mention of Luffy's gears destroying his body since the one time Chopper says it on Thriller Bark? I think that might be a dropped plot thread, but then again this is Oda so he'll probably come back to it in another 5 years The gears were loving him up (well Gear Second at least, I don't think Gear Third did jack poo poo because it already had the mini Luffy recoil) because he was pushing his body well past his normal limits to hit above his weight, against people that weren't all that strong relative to Luffy's endgame goal, which is the real point of Chopper pointing it out. Luffy got stronger, so he can just use localized Jet and refined Gigant attacks whenever he wants.
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Sep 2, 2016 14:12
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Yeah, Luffy never calls upon Gear Two or Three anymore, or else we would have had tiny Luffy after the King Kong Gun.
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AradoBalanga posted:Even better: Wonder Green was the food lover of the team and the third (important) member to join. Guess where Sanji falls in with his brothers. So if Sanji's sister is Wonder Pink, who are Wonders Yellow, White, and Black?
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