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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
YouTube probably got pressure from advertisers. Like how sponsors poo poo a brick over TLC taking their bulk ad buys and sticking them on Duggar shows that no one wanted to be associated with anymore.

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Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

belt posted:

I don't get why this is stupid. Youtube probably doesn't want to screw their advertisers by making them run ads on something about gang rape or teen suicide, and it's not like they can watch every video posted to YouTube to make sure they filter out the graphic poo poo.

I don't think it's dumb at all because it's money. It's not like they're banning you from youtube forever and stopping you from making internet movies. They're just not letting people make advertising bucks off of certain content anymore. Especially considering how prevalent things like Patreon are these days, it's kind of weird that so many people get bent out of shape over youtube advertiser cash. But then I remember there are people on youtube entirely based around advertising solely to children to get a bunch of dumb kids to watch their dumb shouty videos every day all day.

china bot
Sep 7, 2014

you listen HERE pal
SAY GOODBYE TO TELEPHONE SEX
Plaster Town Cop

codo27 posted:

I....I think this is the right place for this.

https://www.instagram.com/erikgarciabat

Just fuckin click it


photoshop hero, with (porn) stars in his eyes

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


china bot posted:


photoshop hero, with (porn) stars in his eyes

Elliot Rodger: Resurrection

PhancyPants
Nov 15, 2003

Hotdog Suit Up!

https://twitter.com/Cubs/status/771521262719934464

I don't know the context, but it's still beautiful.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

PhancyPants posted:

https://twitter.com/Cubs/status/771521262719934464

I don't know the context, but it's still beautiful.

This year's world champions ladies and gentlemen.

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

I've never seen a single ad on YouTube because I use uBlock. What do they even advertise?

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006







It's not my fault you can't see or speak with ghosts :smug:

Caedus
Sep 11, 2007

It's good to have a sense of scale.



I use uBlock and in the last week I've been getting ads forced though while watching youtube playlists. I don't get them when I click on individual videos, but monetized playlists have them hardcoded somehow. Reading about the new content rules, it makes sense that YT is making a huge push to start matching appropriate ads to videos. (I'm watching though Scott Manley's KSP Interstellar Quest, and I got space-themed car ad.) They pop in and load in the existing video and takes a refresh to get rid of them, which loses your place in the video.
If users were being banned or their videos deleted wholesale, I'd get the rage but it sounds like the automated flagging system hasn't worked itself out yet and it'll improve over time. lovely and annoying, but not the YT Apocalypse where they're purging to make the whole site ad-friendly.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Caedus posted:

I use uBlock and in the last week I've been getting ads forced though while watching youtube playlists. I don't get them when I click on individual videos, but monetized playlists have them hardcoded somehow. Reading about the new content rules, it makes sense that YT is making a huge push to start matching appropriate ads to videos. (I'm watching though Scott Manley's KSP Interstellar Quest, and I got space-themed car ad.) They pop in and load in the existing video and takes a refresh to get rid of them, which loses your place in the video.
If users were being banned or their videos deleted wholesale, I'd get the rage but it sounds like the automated flagging system hasn't worked itself out yet and it'll improve over time. lovely and annoying, but not the YT Apocalypse where they're purging to make the whole site ad-friendly.

I like using Disconnect with uBlock Origin and NoScript. I also use Youtube Options as well.

I have NEVER seen an ad on playlists or otherwise.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

I also use adblock, but I doubt YT auto detection for poo poo like that is going to get better any time soon.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

radiatinglines posted:

I also use adblock, but I doubt YT auto detection for poo poo like that is going to get better any time soon.

Oh and I always put in one of those massive HOSTS files with like every ad-server directed to fuckin' nowhere.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

codo27 posted:

I....I think this is the right place for this.

https://www.instagram.com/erikgarciabat

Just fuckin click it

So is this the next Elliot Rodger?

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!



I pay for YouTube Red. What does that mean for people who have ads that I'll never see?

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something
What does Youtube Red actually get you?

Xun
Apr 25, 2010

Why are you paying for porn? That stuff is all over the Internet for free dude

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

What does Youtube Red actually get you?

No ads ever, you can save videos offline on mobile or tablet and exclusive content which no one watches. I get it for free with Google Play music, and the offline saving thing is awesome. I line up a few videos for the train ride home while at work, and save my data for shitposting here.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
http://i.imgur.com/ixeYgrH.mp4

TontoCorazon
Aug 18, 2007


Memento posted:

No ads ever, you can save videos offline on mobile or tablet and exclusive content which no one watches. I get it for free with Google Play music, and the offline saving thing is awesome. I line up a few videos for the train ride home while at work, and save my data for shitposting here.

Honestly without the Google music added in the service it would have been a total wash for me.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

TontoCorazon posted:

Honestly without the Google music added in the service it would have been a total wash for me.

Yeah I got the Play sub because it's great for workout and family road trip music, and the Red sub is the bonus for me. Wouldn't pay for it by itself. I was downloading YouTube videos on en.savefrom.net for the ride home from work, and this just cuts out the middleman.

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?

grumplestiltzkin posted:



On the one hand, watching people whine about losing their youtube income (GASP they might have to get an actual job) is hilarious. Otoh the rules are pretty fuckin' stupid. I can kinda (I guess) see why youtube wants to try to keep it pg-ish, since there's no age gating or anything attached to accounts, but when being a news channel making a report about a real world event can get your channel hosed, it's pretty dumb.

Every single thread in D&D is a topic that would be banned under this, right? And pretty much anything dealing with history (in the past and present. This makes pretty much everything kid rated only?

Anything else would be covered by Copyright?

If they run this over all of youtube, no one makes any money except Google? I guess that works for them. The Schadenfreude is seeing everyone stop's trying to put anything on youtube. Maybe we all start watching porn channels because they won't care what you put on them andf you can talk about politics/news/current affairs/history/anything and still get some money from advertising of some sort.

Comstar has a new favorite as of 11:38 on Sep 2, 2016

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


There have also been videos that have had monetization disabled because of that but youtube still runs ads on them.

I guess advertisers don't mind it when only google gets the money.

Andrast has a new favorite as of 12:03 on Sep 2, 2016

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Caedus posted:

I use uBlock and in the last week I've been getting ads forced though while watching youtube playlists. I don't get them when I click on individual videos, but monetized playlists have them hardcoded somehow. Reading about the new content rules, it makes sense that YT is making a huge push to start matching appropriate ads to videos. (I'm watching though Scott Manley's KSP Interstellar Quest, and I got space-themed car ad.) They pop in and load in the existing video and takes a refresh to get rid of them, which loses your place in the video.
If users were being banned or their videos deleted wholesale, I'd get the rage but it sounds like the automated flagging system hasn't worked itself out yet and it'll improve over time. lovely and annoying, but not the YT Apocalypse where they're purging to make the whole site ad-friendly.

Really? Could you post a playlist for a test? I have NEVER had an ad on my computer with uBlock. My PS3 on the other hand - every loving video has an ad plus massive overscan issues :(

EDIT: I won't judge your viewing preferences. I watch/listen to some terrible poo poo too.

grumplestiltzkin
Jun 7, 2012

Ass, gas, or grass. No one rides for free.

FCKGW posted:

You don't get your channel hosed, you just can't profit from running ads on tragedies and harassment.

So should TV news agencies not be allowed to run commercials? Should someone who does makeup tutorials not be allowed to monetize? I mean, they literally banned (direct quote) "controversial subjects." Are people no longer allowed to have a civil debate about relevant issues? The ability for anyone to say anything is what mad the internet explode like it did, and limiting that is (I can't believe this needs to be said) a Bad Thing. Sure, if someone's uploading videos that are actively inciting violence, yeah gently caress 'em. But some girl who has managed to eke out a living showing other people who to do makeup is too ~controversial~ for youtubes algorithm? Cmon man. That's just silly.

belt posted:

I don't get why this is stupid. Youtube probably doesn't want to screw their advertisers by making them run ads on something about gang rape or teen suicide, and it's not like they can watch every video posted to YouTube to make sure they filter out the graphic poo poo.

If they had managed to block only actual lovely videos nobody would care. That is obviously not happening.


All that being said, I'm still laughing my rear end off at it because it's fuckin' funny to watch people who make a living doing youtube videos whine about the prospect of being forced to get a real job.

Ak Gara
Jul 29, 2005

That's just the way he rolls.

Memento posted:

No ads ever, you can save videos offline on mobile or tablet and exclusive content which no one watches. I get it for free with Google Play music, and the offline saving thing is awesome. I line up a few videos for the train ride home while at work, and save my data for shitposting here.

Isn't there like, a thousand youtube video download apps for firefox and chrome?

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!



grumplestiltzkin posted:

All that being said, I'm still laughing my rear end off at it because it's fuckin' funny to watch people who make a living doing youtube videos whine about the prospect of being forced to get a real job.

Is "educating/entertaining regularly through an audio visual medium" not a "real job"?

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Ak Gara posted:

Isn't there like, a thousand youtube video download apps for firefox and chrome?

Yeah of course, it's more the mobile thing. Saves you from having to move the video over to your phone. Like I said, YouTube Red just means I don't have to save them to my computer then transfer them over.

YouTube Red basically does nothing for people using a browser that uBlock doesn't do.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

This idea that they're going to make YouTube PG somehow is completely idiotic.

Idiotic on YouTube's part, in case that wasn't clear.

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012




Lol - controversial or sensitive topics? That gives a license for anything to get taken down. Who determines sensitive? Does it change by culture?

Can I still make an educational video about the history of Native Americans in the USA?

Ak Gara
Jul 29, 2005

That's just the way he rolls.

KoRMaK posted:

Lol - controversial or sensitive topics? That gives a license for anything to get taken down. Who determines sensitive? Does it change by culture?

Can I still make an educational video about the history of Native Americans in the USA?

Suicide prevention videos where hit so I'm guessing that's a no.

[edit] No you wouldn't make money on it, I mean.

Stan Taylor
Oct 13, 2013

Touched Fuzzy, Got Dizzy
Post a man falling off a ladder

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
Apparently youtube has always done this they are just now telling you about it.

Waci
May 30, 2011

A boy and his dog.

KoRMaK posted:

Lol - controversial or sensitive topics? That gives a license for anything to get taken down. Who determines sensitive? Does it change by culture?

Can I still make an educational video about the history of Native Americans in the USA?

You can certainly make one, you just can't sell ad time on it on this particular platform!

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Stan Taylor posted:

Post a man falling off a ladder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QgaKz7lTQo

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
The new Youtube policy is pretty dumb. Just flag the videos with over 18 content and be done with it. I am a video game nerd and if you've ever played online video games there is often cursing involved, violence, and all around Mature rated content. Why should the people who make videos about video games be cut off because of the way they create content?

Does this mean political videos are being purged too? I don't get the rationale here.

SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

Hold that pose.
I've gotta get something.

Stan Taylor posted:

Post a man falling off a ladder

https://youtu.be/4dcyo3VOmlA

https://youtu.be/6ZhMfzc9RbU

e:

Jastiger posted:

The new Youtube policy is pretty dumb. Just flag the videos with over 18 content and be done with it. I am a video game nerd and if you've ever played online video games there is often cursing involved, violence, and all around Mature rated content. Why should the people who make videos about video games be cut off because of the way they create content?

Advertisers want to have some control over what types of content their brands are being associated with. It's not entirely unreasonable. The videos themselves aren't being removed or anything, just ineligible for getting ad revenue.

SpacePig has a new favorite as of 18:06 on Sep 2, 2016

Dr Sun Try
May 23, 2009


Plaster Town Cop

Jastiger posted:


Does this mean political videos are being purged too? I don't get the rationale here.

It works the same way as ads on TV: companys want to portray an image and having an ad for American Airlines doesn't really run well with a 9/11 conspiracy video


edit: the alternative to an automated system is some guy at YoutubeHQ screening every video before it gets monetized; that's roughly how TV/Magazines/etc works

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Wouldn't the answer to be not to associate those ads with those types of pages though? Just populate the videos with ads that are relevant. It seems weird to just pull the funding all together.

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER
If Youtube still displays ads over the content (and thus profits off the video) despite the content not being monetized for the creator, does that count as theft or what?

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Dr Sun Try
May 23, 2009


Plaster Town Cop

Jastiger posted:

Wouldn't the answer to be not to associate those ads with those types of pages though? Just populate the videos with ads that are relevant. It seems weird to just pull the funding all together.

that sound like a very easy problem to solve

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