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Paul MaudDib posted:US prison terms are absolutely insane compared to the rest of the world. I realize that not everyone gets the maximum penalty but it should not even be an option. Like the guy in the article who got 12 years for selling pills, that's just nuts. Monetary fines actually wind up loving a lot of prisoners, like there was some guy in new york who had to stay on probation for 14 months because he couldn't come up with $200 to pay the fine attached to his sentence
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Sep 2, 2016 19:05
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zoux posted:I didn't say it wouldn't be a pathetic attempt at deflection. The discussion on this topic should have been closed at the max a month after Comey gave his statement why do people still give a poo poo
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Sep 2, 2016 19:06
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FactsAreUseless posted:The goon who named his daughter Bernice Sandra. No. Really?
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Sep 2, 2016 19:06
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https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/771771186594340866 Apologies to woke as gently caress twitter
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Sep 2, 2016 19:07
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Chokes McGee posted:This may be a dumb question, but is Jill Stein even left? Literally the only thing I've seen her advocate are anti-vax and being a moron in politics. I was recently approached by a guy trying to collect signatures to get Stein on the ballot in November. He described her as, and I quote, "between the Democrats and the Libertarians."
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Sep 2, 2016 19:07
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Luna Was Here posted:The discussion on this topic should have been closed at the max a month after Comey gave his statement why do people still give a poo poo The witch isn't dead yet?
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Sep 2, 2016 19:07
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zoux posted:He's not endorsing her because he likes her ideas on secret illegal Southeast Asian bombing campaigns, but because the other guy is blithely sparking a lighter in the gasoline room. He still likes her ideas on secret illegal southeast asia bombing campaigns though. 
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Sep 2, 2016 19:12
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Night10194 posted:We already know basically everything that happened with the loving e-mail poo poo. Why doesn't the press get bored of this, like they get bored of Trump's latest rant within 3 hours? It's loving amazing that they seem to have just let that Nuremburg-esque rally slide.
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Sep 2, 2016 19:12
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Mr Jaunts posted:I was recently approached by a guy trying to collect signatures to get Stein on the ballot in November. He described her as, and I quote, "between the Democrats and the Libertarians." I'm sure he meant the Green party is between the Democratic and Libertarian parties, when sorted alphabetically.
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Sep 2, 2016 19:12
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Peztopiary posted:No. Really? 
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Sep 2, 2016 19:15
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That's rough.
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Sep 2, 2016 19:17
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VikingofRock posted:NYT story on how urban America is sending insane numbers of people to prison for insane amounts of time. Apparently Dearborn, Indiana has an incarceration rate of ~10%. Boy, I sure wish we could find more money to use for drug treatment programs, I really do. *spends $22 million expanding jail and courthouse* Aside from all the other hosed up stuff about this, though, why can't the state do something? The costs of incarcerating those people are borne by the state as a whole, and if these counties like this one are consuming a disproportionate share of the budget and prison resources for their population and crime rate, etc., couldn't the state just be like gently caress you Dearborn we're automatically reducing the sentences on all your cases to be in line with statewide norms. The state is the ultimate legal authority in whose name these sentences are carried out, not the county where they're tried.
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Sep 2, 2016 19:17
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Blackberrys are windows into email servers, not email possessors that allow one to have clandestine conversations specifically on the device and only on the device, left unknown to the structures of delivery and databasing...
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Sep 2, 2016 19:17
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:giving a poo poo about kissingers endorsement is dumb af Nah. My hatred for him and his stratum of foreign policy thinkers is one of the animating features of my politics. Having him endorsing the Democratic candidate sucks, to me.
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Sep 2, 2016 19:20
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i am harry posted:Blackberrys are windows into email servers, not email possessors that allow one to have clandestine conversations specifically on the device and only on the device, left unknown to the structures of delivery and databasing...
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Sep 2, 2016 19:21
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Grounds for CPS to get involved.
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Sep 2, 2016 19:21
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/771772555539648512 If you're a republican and you find yourself saying this to FOX loving NEWS, it may be time to cut bait
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Sep 2, 2016 19:22
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How much do name changes cost these days?
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Sep 2, 2016 19:23
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William F Cuckley posted:Gwen Ifill's still alive I was more talking about John McLaughlin, who would be hilarious to see him rip apart the candidates.
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Sep 2, 2016 19:24
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half a year before the first primary, that's some doe-eyed optimism
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Sep 2, 2016 19:24
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:You say this like the average Trump supporter is going to understand and/or care. Indeed, if the internet is a series of tubes what if Clinton has her own set of secret tubes? After all she has Gore. Or worse. Her own secret dumptruck.
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Sep 2, 2016 19:27
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Why is there even an option to not assign your kid a social security number on a birth certificate? Is it an Arizona thing? I have never seen that as an option before.
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Sep 2, 2016 19:28
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zoux posted:He's not endorsing her because he likes her ideas on secret illegal Southeast Asian bombing campaigns, but because the other guy is blithely sparking a lighter in the gasoline room. Look, whatever gets Kissinger-senpai on board is fine by me.
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Sep 2, 2016 19:28
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zoux posted:FBI released its report: doesn't that literally mean nothing because accessing a server is completely different from storing information on a device
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Sep 2, 2016 19:29
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Augus posted:doesn't that literally mean nothing because accessing a server is completely different from storing information on a device we don't care about that anymore because we found it! We found the smoking gun! https://twitter.com/TheFix/status/771770100701626368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Sep 2, 2016 19:31
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Augus posted:doesn't that literally mean nothing because accessing a server is completely different from storing information on a device It doesn't mean LITERALLY nothing, because having downloaded data to so many devices and not kept track of them when they were disposed of means that data could be theoretically accessible. More devices means more opportunities to make a mistake. In practice, nothing happened though. Pretty much every single revelation in the Clinton email saga is "State Department IT sucked, Hillary should have known better, but didn't want to wait. She ignored the IT rules in 2009 and then kept doing it for 3 more years because she had already been doing it and it was easier. Nothing bad ended up happening, but it was risky and she just didn't care." Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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Sep 2, 2016 19:33
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The Shortest Path posted:...not for what prisons are actually supposed to be used for. You mean to create a permanently disenfranchised and servile class? I think they do that pretty well.
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Sep 2, 2016 19:35
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/thehill/status/771772555539648512 Fox News has been falling out of favor for a while now. They just aren't crazy enough for Republicans anymore and, yes, that says terrifying things about the Republicans and the country in general.
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Sep 2, 2016 19:36
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:It doesn't mean LITERALLY nothing, because having downloaded data to so many devices and not kept track of them when they were disposed of means that data could be theoretically accessible. More devices means more opportunities to make a mistake. In practice, nothing happened though. oh okay then I'm glad that the possibility of something maybe possibly being at risk at happening at one point or another is treated as a bigger deal than the severe acts of fraud and corruption that Trump has engaged in that are well-documented and easily observable.
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Sep 2, 2016 19:36
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So that backs up her statement that Powell told her how to get around FOIA?
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Sep 2, 2016 19:40
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https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/771777992611606530?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Well, if you say so.
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Sep 2, 2016 19:41
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:It doesn't mean LITERALLY nothing, because having downloaded data to so many devices and not kept track of them when they were disposed of means that data could be theoretically accessible. More devices means more opportunities to make a mistake. In practice, nothing happened though. Literally the only reason why businesses bothered to use blackberries is because they were the only phones that could be remotely managed for a long time. Like that was BES' only redeeming feature. I don't know the details of her server setup but it seems reasonable to me to assume that these phones were locked and remotely wiped as soon as they were discovered missing/broken
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Sep 2, 2016 19:41
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ReidRansom posted:Aside from all the other hosed up stuff about this, though, why can't the state do something? The costs of incarcerating those people are borne by the state as a whole, and if these counties like this one are consuming a disproportionate share of the budget and prison resources for their population and crime rate, etc., couldn't the state just be like gently caress you Dearborn we're automatically reducing the sentences on all your cases to be in line with statewide norms. The state is the ultimate legal authority in whose name these sentences are carried out, not the county where they're tried. Do you wanna be the superior court judge up for re-election known as the rear end in a top hat who flooded our communities with a bunch of dangerous drug addict criminals?
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zoux posted:we don't care about that anymore because we found it! We found the smoking gun! So, what does this ACTUALLY mean Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Pretty much every single revelation in the Clinton email saga is "State Department IT sucked, Hillary should have known better, but didn't want to wait. She ignored the IT rules in 2009 and then kept doing it for 3 more years because she had already been doing it and it was easier. Nothing bad ended up happening, but it was risky and she just didn't care."
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Sep 2, 2016 19:43
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Augus posted:oh okay then 1) The press is going to report on any controversies they can get. I don't think anyone is arguing that the email server is worse than anything Trump did. "One thing is against the rules, but it doesn't matter because someone else did something bad" is not gonna fly with most people. 2) Hillary's email was basically the IT equivalent of Jaywalking. It is definitely against the rules and 99% of the time nothing goes wrong, but nobody really cares unless the 1% actually happens. IT rules are designed to make sure that the 1% chance is 0.001% and Hillary ignored them because they were a hassle and then when they could have fixed it a year later she'd already been doing it for a year and didn't want to disrupt everything. Nothing actually happened, but people are upset because it was sloppy and it increased the odds of something bad happening by 1000%, even if the final odds were still just 1%. Nothing happened and we should all be glad. People who want to get upset are going to be upset no matter what. Hillary was still jaywalking and since nothing happened it really isn't a big deal, but the one time someone gets hit by a car when jaywalking is when everyone will point to how she didn't follow the rules.
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Yessss Kissinger won't endorse Clinton! I'm with her now.
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iospace posted:I was more talking about John McLaughlin, who would be hilarious to see him rip apart the candidates. Oh I know. But Ifill presided over both rear end whoopins courtesy the
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U-DO Burger posted:half a year before the first primary, that's some doe-eyed optimism I don't remember exactly why they did it, but it was from the original shitpost for bernie thread or w/e it was called so I assume there was some kind of bet based on post numbers involved.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:1) I don't think anyone is arguing that the email server is worse than anything Trump did. Hahahaha
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