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Aesop Poprock: Oct 21, 2008; Grimey Drawer

Apparently the last presidential debate moderator is Chris Wallace?? Ewwwwww

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# ? May 26, 2024 02:53

Sephyr: Aug 28, 2012

That Old Tree posted:

His books demonstrate he got on the crazy train early, and he still had pretty lovely ideas about women even before going nearly full MRA after his long-time girlfriend who he dedicated every book to left him.

You just know that this was the curveball that broke his brain. "Women always go for the wealthy, successful provider!... Hey honey, I have more money than the IRS, why you packing your things? I PROBABLY WASN'T ENOUGH OF AN rear end in a top hat TO YOU!!"

# ? Sep 2, 2016 15:21

boner confessor: Apr 25, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Instant Sunrise posted:

well you have children who are too young to work, elderly people who have retired, stay at home parents, full time students, people who cannot work medical reasons, people who aren't working and aren't looking for work, aaaaand people who are not employed but are actively searching for work.

dont forget active duty military, who are technically not in the labor force

# ? Sep 2, 2016 15:32

Eggplant Squire: Aug 14, 2003

Sephyr posted:

You just know that this was the curveball that broke his brain. "Women always go for the wealthy, successful provider!... Hey honey, I have more money than the IRS, why you packing your things? I PROBABLY WASN'T ENOUGH OF AN rear end in a top hat TO YOU!!"

I remember one of his books he wrote in the '90s had a section that described that women were the ones that had real power in society. The argument was that "other" men were the powerful ones since they had all the money while regular dudes didn't. Then since women could control the regular men in relationships they had the power in situations that the majority of people would find themselves in.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 16:03

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

Aesop Poprock posted:

Apparently the last presidential debate moderator is Chris Wallace?? Ewwwwww

He gets to be blamed for electing Hillary, I'm sure he's quite happy about that.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 16:31

Spite: Jul 27, 2001; Small chance of that...

Radish posted:

I remember one of his books he wrote in the '90s had a section that described that women were the ones that had real power in society. The argument was that "other" men were the powerful ones since they had all the money while regular dudes didn't. Then since women could control the regular men in relationships they had the power in situations that the majority of people would find themselves in.

He also said he's endorsing Hillary Clinton because he thinks liberals will kill him at his home in the bay area.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 16:59

Previa_fun: Nov 10, 2004

I see all of these conservative superstars write books that go on to be New York Times bestsellers and have to wonder if anyone is actually buying them or if they are just buying a shitload of copies of their own books to prop up their numbers.

It's gotta be the latter because Levin (I always seem to be in the car during his timeslot) seems to give away dozens of books per show.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 17:04

El Gallinero Gros: Mar 17, 2010

The upshot is that we may get a full bore screaming match between Wallace and Trump, and that might be funny.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 17:13

boner confessor: Apr 25, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Previa_fun posted:

I see all of these conservative superstars write books that go on to be New York Times bestsellers and have to wonder if anyone is actually buying them or if they are just buying a shitload of copies of their own books to prop up their numbers.

It's gotta be the latter because Levin (I always seem to be in the car during his timeslot) seems to give away dozens of books per show.

yeah these numbers are artifically inflated, iirc the books are bought by book clubs or other organizations which basically give them away

# ? Sep 2, 2016 17:15

El Gallinero Gros: Mar 17, 2010

PhazonLink posted:

There's a few news articles floating around about the wingnut book inflation.

Also my favorite incident about the worthlessness of the books was when OReily sent a pallet of books to a military base in the middle east and they burned them.

BEEP BOOP SUPPORT OUR TOOPS BUT THEY BURN MAH BOOKS. ERROR

This brings a smile to my face, thanks for informing us about it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/20/bill-oreilly-book-burned-_n_1021465.html

# ? Sep 2, 2016 17:48

Knight: Dec 23, 2000; SPACE-A-HOLIC; Taco Defender

BarbarianElephant posted:

I buy books on liberal topics, why shouldn't conservatives buy books on conservative topics?

Who said conservatives shouldn't buy books? We're talking about a known method where political groups buy pallets of their own books to appear on Best-Seller lists and then give the books away, which retailers have only recently started adjusting for because they want to identify individual purchases.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 18:05

Ytlaya: Nov 13, 2005

joepinetree posted:

Chait even had the gall to say on NPR that this was all symptomatic of a new attitude on left to shut down speech, which he said, unchallenged, shortly before a segment on Kaepernick.

I also saw a spot on NPR about this, and it was dumb as hell (just like most NPR reporting on political issues). They basically let a couple people who liked U of Chicago's statement speak (one was some dumb high schooler who was just like "yeah, uh, I think freedom of speech is good!") and then let some other person who didn't like it speak and just left it at that, like both the opinions were inherently of equal value.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 18:32

Goatman Sacks: Apr 4, 2011; by FactsAreUseless

i am harry posted:

That quote of Rush included him saying 94 million people are out of work...but the US population is somewhere around 300mil......

...

I guess I feel like we'd all notice if almost a third of the population had nothing to do...

It's a real, if misleading number. Is Rush down to just doing statistics vomiting these days like Sean Hannity? He's usually better than that.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 18:36

FuzzySkinner: May 23, 2012

Employment is up, but it's not for full time, legit jobs I would imagine.

People are finding work, but it's mainly at big box stores. Lot of people with college degrees kinda stranded at those places in some ways.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 18:53

BarbarianElephant: Feb 12, 2015; The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Knight posted:

Who said conservatives shouldn't buy books? We're talking about a known method where political groups buy pallets of their own books to appear on Best-Seller lists and then give the books away, which retailers have only recently started adjusting for because they want to identify individual purchases.

What I was saying is that just because you don't like a book doesn't mean that all the sales are fake. I wouldn't spit on a book by Trump, but his legions of fans probably line their shelves with his ghost-written crap.

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Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

BarbarianElephant posted:

What I was saying is that just because you don't like a book doesn't mean that all the sales are fake. I wouldn't spit on a book by Trump, but his legions of fans probably line their shelves with his ghost-written crap.

Trump's legions do not strike me as readers

# ? Sep 2, 2016 19:25

eNeMeE: Nov 26, 2012

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Trump's legions do not strike me as readers

Don't have to read it to display it on a shelf.

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El Gallinero Gros: Mar 17, 2010

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Trump's legions do not strike me as readers

They don't have to read it once they buy it. Some of the people who like Trump are absolutely the type of insecure tools who buy books to show how "smart" they are. Besides, how else are they gonna learn the best words? At one of your socialist funded libraries? P'shaw.

Edit: Dammit, just beaten

# ? Sep 2, 2016 19:46

WampaLord: Jan 14, 2010

FuzzySkinner posted:

Employment is up, but it's not for full time, legit jobs I would imagine.

People are finding work, but it's mainly at big box stores. Lot of people with college degrees kinda stranded at those places in some ways.

Do you have statistics on this or are you just making poo poo up based on what you feel is happening?

# ? Sep 2, 2016 19:51

Spacedad: Sep 11, 2001; We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Twelve by Pies posted:

Finally, an expert opinion on Trump's speech. I tried to post mainly the highlights but it still ended up fairly long even after I cut the more boring stuff out.

(dilbert man bloviating(

I don't recall fully but at least a couple of things I heard from the Trump speech is that he wants to triple the number of ICE deportation officers, as well as a biometric visa system to track immigrants. Somehow the fact that Trump claims he would do all this while not increasing spending is proclaimed as persuasive by Scott.

In hindsight it turns out that Dilbert is a comic about business by Dilbert's boss.

VitalSigns posted:

Adams says up front that he wants a vague self-contradictory message given in a tone of conviction and resolve covering weasel-worded escape hatches, in the hopes that Americans will project whatever policies they personally want on Trump.

He declares the speech a success and then infers that Trump is proposing exactly the policies he likes while tricking all those other rubes who are inferring their own favorite policies from the same speech.

"This Ponzi guy is selling all these other fools on a scam, which is good because that's how he'll get the money to pay me the huge returns he's promising!"

Pretty much, yep. All the trumpies self-aware just enough to know that he's bullshitting a lot are convinced he is still *totally* on their side.

They might want to look up what the definition of 'confidence man' is.

Spacedad fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Sep 2, 2016

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Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Spacedad posted:

In hindsight it turns out that Dilbert is a comic about business by Dilbert's boss.

A profound experiment in unreliable narration in which it is eventually shown that his boss is an extremely competent and professional executive and that Dilbert is little more than a mediocre yet self-important office drone

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:13

Nucleic Acids: Apr 10, 2007

Spacedad posted:

In hindsight it turns out that Dilbert is a comic about business by Dilbert's boss.

tbh I've kind of ended up sympathizing with the boss a number of times just because Dilbert and his friends are such rear end in a top hat bullies.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:13

Spacedad: Sep 11, 2001; We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Mel Mudkiper posted:

A profound experiment in unreliable narration in which it is eventually shown that his boss is an extremely competent and professional executive and that Dilbert is little more than a mediocre yet self-important office drone

Yeah but boss is portrayed as 'DAGDC' and senseless a lot. Turns out mr. dilbertarian fits that profile.

I mean just look at how willingly he buys into trump bullshitting his way through everything.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:15

El Gallinero Gros: Mar 17, 2010

Not seeing the drawback, personally.

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-taco-trucks-on-every-corner-immigration-plan-2016-9

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anonumos: Jul 14, 2005; Fuck it.

Knight posted:

Who said conservatives shouldn't buy books? We're talking about a known method where political groups buy pallets of their own books to appear on Best-Seller lists and then give the books away, which retailers have only recently started adjusting for because they want to identify individual purchases.

Exactly right.

http://www.mahablog.com/2015/07/10/ny-times-catches-on-to-rightie-book-scam/

quote:

NY Times Catches On to Rightie Book Scam (Updated)
Righties are apoplectic because the New York Times is not putting Ted Cruz�s book A Time for Truth (cough) on the best-seller list.

quote:
The New York Times informed HarperCollins this week that it will not include Ted Cruz�s new biography on its forthcoming bestsellers list, despite the fact that the book has sold more copies in its first week than all but two of the Times� bestselling titles, the On Media blog has learned.

Just going by number of copies sold, ATfT ought to be #3 or so this week. The New York Times, however, says that it has standards that include analysis of sales patterns, not just units sold. In other words, the NYT is looking out for bulk sales. It�s going to be harder to cheat your way onto the best-seller list by having organizations buy up your book in bulk.

Or, as Times spokesperson Eileen Murphy explained,

quote:
�In the case of this book, the overwhelming preponderance of evidence was that sales were limited to strategic bulk purchases,� she wrote.

This is a scam that�s been going on for a long time, and I�m glad the Times is calling it out, finally. As you probably know already, here�s how it works: Somebody writes a book titled Liberals Are Awful and Will Eat Your Baby. Conservative �book clubs,� think tanks, and other organizations buy up tens of thousands of copies in bulk, making the book a �best seller.� Then they either re-sell copies at a steep discount or give them away at conferences or as part of a promotion for something else (sign up for our newsletter and get a free copy of � ). It�s a variation of �wingnut welfare,� in other words.

...

Update: Here�s another way to scam the system I didn�t even know about.

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In essence, The Times accused Cruz�s publisher of trying to buy its way onto the bestseller list by having a firm like Result Source hire thousands of people across America to individually purchase a copy of �A Time For Truth,� in the hope that some of those retailers are on the secret list of booksellers who report their sales to the Times, or that the aggregate purchasers will simply be too high for the Times to ignore.

It's not just wingnut welfare, either. It's done with too many business books to count. Probably other industries, too.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323864304578316143623600544

quote:

The Mystery of the Book Sales Spike
How Are Some Authors Landing On Best-Seller Lists? They're Buying Their Way

Last August, a book titled "Leapfrogging" hit The Wall Street Journal's list of best-selling business titles upon its debut. The following week, sales of the book, written by first-time author Soren Kaplan, plunged 99% and it fell off the list.

Something similar happened when the hardcover edition of "Networking is Dead," was published in mid-December. A week after selling enough copies to make it onto the Journal's business best-seller list, more hardcover copies of the book were returned than sold, says book-sales tracker Nielsen BookScan.

It isn't uncommon for a business book to land on best-seller lists only to quickly drop off. But even a brief appearance adds permanent luster to an author's reputation, greasing the skids for speaking and consulting engagements.

Mr. Kaplan says the best-seller status of "Leapfrogging" has "become part of my position as a speaker and consultant."

But the short moment of glory doesn't always occur by luck alone. In the cases mentioned above, the authors hired a marketing firm that purchased books ahead of publication date, creating a spike in sales that landed titles on the lists. The marketing firm, San Diego-based ResultSource, charges thousands of dollars for its services in addition to the cost of the books, according to authors interviewed.

As ResultSource's website points out, hitting best-seller lists can mean fame, and potentially lucrative consulting assignments.

"Publishing a book builds credibility, but having a Bestseller initiates incredible growth�exponentially increasing the demand for your thought leadership, skyrocketing your speaking itinerary and value," ResultSource says.

ResultSource's principal, Kevin Small, declined requests for an interview. On its website, the company outlines its ambitions: "'We create campaigns that reach a specific goal, like: "On the bestsellers list," or "100,000 copies sold.'"

Precisely how it goes about that is unclear, though, and there is discomfort among some in the publishing industry who worry that preorders are being corralled and bulk purchases are being made to appear like single sales to qualify for inclusion in best-seller lists, which normally wouldn't count such sales.

anonumos fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Sep 2, 2016

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Twelve by Pies: May 4, 2012; Again a very likpatous story

Radish posted:

I remember one of his books he wrote in the '90s had a section that described that women were the ones that had real power in society. The argument was that "other" men were the powerful ones since they had all the money while regular dudes didn't. Then since women could control the regular men in relationships they had the power in situations that the majority of people would find themselves in.

Scott Adams' opinions on women, you say?

Dilberrito posted:

Perhaps the biggest unreported story of this presidential election is the humiliation of the American male. Unless I�m blinded by confirmation bias � which is entirely possible � it seems to me that the humiliation of American men is now institutionalized in the media.

Check out this commercial for dishwasher detergent. And take careful note of the American man�s v-neck sweater. That�s the uniform of a man who is owned by a woman.

You�re laughing because you know it�s true. How many of the married men reading this blog have received those same sweaters as �gifts� from women? Personally, I�ve received about 25 over the years. None from men. I received three of those sweaters so far this year. I throw them away. Nice try.

Many of you can�t talk about this topic without being accused of sexism, losing your jobs, and being cast out of your social groups. But I can talk about it because I endorse Hillary Clinton for president. I did that for my personal safety, because I live in California, but still, I�m on the progressive side now. That gives me some extra freedom of speech.

If you are following the election polls, you know that Clinton has greater support from women while Trump has greater support from men. Trump probably can�t win the presidency unless he gets massive voter turnout from American men.

Will that happen?

The dishwasher soap commercial should give you a hint of how big that turnout might be. You might not notice the size of the coming tsunami because American men generally don�t voice their humiliation in public. That would just make it worse.

But in the privacy of the polling booth, the men who don�t talk are free to act.

You can criticize Donald Trump on many dimensions. You can say he�s not really a great businessman. You can say he�s offensive. You can say he lies. You can hate his position on issues. You can say he has insufficient policy details. And lots more. But I think we all agree that Melania never asks Donald to go back to the store because he�s too dumb to buy the right kind of soap on the first try.

I predict you will see the largest male turnout of any presidential election in American history.

�

In the interest of completeness�

In my opinion, Hillary Clinton has already done a great service to the country because � win or lose � she already effectively broke the glass ceiling on the most visible and important job in the nation. If she falls short of the presidency, few people will think it was because of gender discrimination against women. Clinton has been a strong role model for women and deserves massive credit for that.

STOP TELLING ME IN YOUR MIND THAT WOMEN HAVE IT WORSE IN THIS COUNTRY THAN MEN!

I�m sure women do have it worse than men in this country in lots of ways. But it isn�t a competition. My point is that the psychological state of American men in 2016 is one of persistent humiliation for simply being male. That sense of humiliation might be more imagined than real � which is not an important distinction � because either way it affects how people act.

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FuzzySkinner: May 23, 2012

WampaLord posted:

Do you have statistics on this or are you just making poo poo up based on what you feel is happening?

Meh. Just my general experience.

Pre-2008 this economy is not.

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Bobbin Threadbare: Jan 2, 2009; I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Does he look cold? Does he seem to shiver a lot? Is that why everyone keeps buying him sweaters?

# ? Sep 2, 2016 21:03

Twelve by Pies: May 4, 2012; Again a very likpatous story

No, didn't you pay attention? The shirts were a clear attempt to emasculate him and turn him into a whimpering beta, enslaved by the matriarchy.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 21:10

Bobbin Threadbare: Jan 2, 2009; I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Twelve by Pies posted:

No, didn't you pay attention? The shirts were a clear attempt to emasculate him and turn him into a whimpering beta, enslaved by the matriarchy.

Yeah, but they could have gotten him a v-neck t-shirt if he weren't shivering like a Chihuahua all the time.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 21:12

Play: Apr 25, 2006; Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I forget who said it, but I always liked the line "The great myth is that art is good for a man's soul. After all, the Nazis listened to Wagner while burning the Jews"

Yes, they listened to the music of a hyper-nationalist and unrepentant racist/anti-semite while they killed the Jews. Just like anything else, you get what you put in. But the majority of music and art being put out then and thereafter was about freedom, and love, and happiness. And art is most definitely good for a man's soul.

I do like that line, however.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 21:20

Play: Apr 25, 2006; Strong stroll for a mangy stray

FuzzySkinner posted:

Employment is up, but it's not for full time, legit jobs I would imagine.

People are finding work, but it's mainly at big box stores. Lot of people with college degrees kinda stranded at those places in some ways.

Just so all you guys know, those numbers also include the elderly. And retirees. The disabled. The handicapped. The child-raisers. The students. The children? Of course. Babies? You guessed it. Plus the 5 percent or so who are actively looking for work and not finding it.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 21:25

Mister Facetious: Apr 21, 2007; I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

Spacedad posted:

In hindsight it turns out that Dilbert is a comic about business by Dilbert's boss.

Pretty much, yep. All the trumpies self-aware just enough to know that he's bullshitting a lot are convinced he is still *totally* on their side.

They might want to look up what the definition of 'confidence man' is.

"Yeah, maybe he's a crook, but he's our crook."
- Everyone that invested in Madoff, knowing he was fishy as gently caress.

'No One Would Listen: A True Financial Thriller' is such a great listen.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 21:28

Pirate Radar: Apr 18, 2008; You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

Play posted:

Yes, they listened to the music of a hyper-nationalist and unrepentant racist/anti-semite while they killed the Jews. Just like anything else, you get what you put in. But the majority of music and art being put out then and thereafter was about freedom, and love, and happiness. And art is most definitely good for a man's soul.

I do like that line, however.

But, I mean... the Nazis were all about freedom and love and happiness for the right people.

Like, I guess the counterexample would be demonstrating that the Allies were proportionately better art-lovers than the Axis, and I don't really see that being the case.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 21:30

Geostomp: Oct 22, 2008; Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Spacedad posted:

In hindsight it turns out that Dilbert is a comic about business by Dilbert's boss.

Pretty much, yep. All the trumpies self-aware just enough to know that he's bullshitting a lot are convinced he is still *totally* on their side.

They might want to look up what the definition of 'confidence man' is.

But that would mean entertaining the idea that they could be fooled or just plain wrong. Conservatives hate that more than anything.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 21:30

Bobbin Threadbare: Jan 2, 2009; I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Pirate Radar posted:

But, I mean... the Nazis were all about freedom and love and happiness for the right people.

Like, I guess the counterexample would be demonstrating that the Allies were proportionately better art-lovers than the Axis, and I don't really see that being the case.

I actually did some research on this a little while ago. Nazi Germany instituted very heavy-handed censorship restrictions on the German film industry and nationalized the whole thing a couple of years before World War II started. Under Nazi censorship, the movies that weren't directly aggrandizing fascism were basically empty fluff that said nothing and challenged nothing. Meanwhile, all the good directors, actors, and other filmmakers (not just the Jewish ones, either) had fled to England or the United States.

So in a real sense, yes, I believe the Allies were more committed to good art than the Axis was, and that's even when you remember the Hollywood Production Code was a thing.

Don't really know if you were being sarcastic or not, I just wanted to share.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 21:37

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# ? May 26, 2024 02:53

FuzzySkinner: May 23, 2012

Play posted:

Just so all you guys know, those numbers also include the elderly. And retirees. The disabled. The handicapped. The child-raisers. The students. The children? Of course. Babies? You guessed it. Plus the 5 percent or so who are actively looking for work and not finding it.

I'm not trying to come across as WSJ level rear end in a top hat, but the economy still hasn't fully recovered from 08.

My experiences have been seeing people with degrees being stuck working Wal-Mart, and Lowes type jobs. Is that better than "no" job? Yes. But people are still trying to climb out of that hole.

The top 1 percent is doing amazing right now. But for the rest? Eh...not so much.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 21:41

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