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Sylphid
Aug 3, 2012
People really should play Beyond the Starlight in 3D mode. It's really good.

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Zenostein
Aug 16, 2008

:h::h::h:Alhamdulillah-chan:h::h::h:

Sylphid posted:

People really should play Beyond the Starlight in 3D mode. It's really good.

I'm glad they've advanced beyond "camera moves" technique to "idols move" technique.

Soon they might even use the whole stage!

Polsy
Mar 23, 2007

25% off your favourite Japanese PSN-available im@s games, which probably isn't enough to change anyone's mind

Zenostein
Aug 16, 2008

:h::h::h:Alhamdulillah-chan:h::h::h:

Sylphid posted:

People really should play Beyond the Starlight in 3D mode. It's really good.

It's also on a huge screen
https://twitter.com/d86012005/status/771547323595763712

"teru teru fumika"those things really shouldn't have hair…
https://twitter.com/shinkansenVsOld/status/771354062407086080

:toot:
https://twitter.com/_airrin_/status/771362686441435136

https://twitter.com/timadeath/status/771540834088914944

Polsy posted:

25% off your favourite Japanese PSN-available im@s games, which probably isn't enough to change anyone's mind

looks like it's 50 if you have ps+? and you probably do if you have a ps4, since that's required for online play now, right?

I mean, that's still not terribly tempting because oh man japanese game prices

Sylphid
Aug 3, 2012
I'm glad Fumika x Kanade is more and more of a thing.

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY


but why is it dekoration lo stupid youtube uploader

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

https://twitter.com/Heater_san/status/771531810115248128

Polsy
Mar 23, 2007

Zenostein posted:

looks like it's 50 if you have ps+? and you probably do if you have a ps4, since that's required for online play now, right?

I mean, that's still not terribly tempting because oh man japanese game prices

Yeah, I'm assuming nobody here has Japanese PS+ but I shouldn't rule it out

Cialis Railman
Apr 20, 2007

And wouldn't it be in Japanese anyway?

Zenostein
Aug 16, 2008

:h::h::h:Alhamdulillah-chan:h::h::h:

Futaba Anzu posted:

but why is it dekoration lo stupid youtube uploader

because candy island's already being used for this one

Polsy posted:

Yeah, I'm assuming nobody here has Japanese PS+ but I shouldn't rule it out

Ah, right. That is the sort of thing that would be tied to PSN and not to hardware or something dumb like that, isn't it.

Cialis Railman posted:

And wouldn't it be in Japanese anyway?

for pretty much every idolmaster game ever, you can find something that'll at least tell you how the menus/minigames/whatever works. That's probably enough for like, Must Songs or Shiny Festa (unless you super care about the story), but probably not quite enough for idolmaster 2 or one for all, which I presume need you to make choices at some point or another.

Incidentally, idolmaster 2's like 5 years old, still like 4000¥. Some of those PSN prices were kinda shocking. Hell, the Shiny Festas are still 1800¥ each (sale price), although I guess that's better than when they were $30 ea. on the App Store.
Actually, why is One for All cheaper than 2? Isn't it way newer? It isn't the IM@S channel thing that was actually just all the shiny festas, right?

Sylphid
Aug 3, 2012
~Mysterious~

Polsy
Mar 23, 2007

Zenostein posted:

Incidentally, idolmaster 2's like 5 years old, still like 4000¥. Some of those PSN prices were kinda shocking. Hell, the Shiny Festas are still 1800¥ each (sale price), although I guess that's better than when they were $30 ea. on the App Store.
Actually, why is One for All cheaper than 2? Isn't it way newer? It isn't the IM@S channel thing that was actually just all the shiny festas, right?

Yeah, One for All was the full im@s game, that's kind of surprising. I don't know if it being a 'the Best' edition makes it cheaper but regardless you'd think when things get that old you might as well ease off on the price a bit.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

Sylphid posted:

~Mysterious~



This is great.

Sylphid
Aug 3, 2012
*clears throat loud enough to wake the dead*



Well, the, uh...the First Anniversary present was, uh...generous. Yeah, that's the word.



Good work, everyone. Let's make next year even better :unsmith:

Cialis Railman
Apr 20, 2007


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                                    "No problem."
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Yeah, waking up to 2500 star gems was a nice surprise. I got my first 10 pull out of it! I didn't take a screenshot because it wasn't anything special, though. I got an S-Rare Miku out of it, at least. And it looks like you get fifty more a day as a login bonus.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else
Between the 2500 jewels and the 10 pull ticket; I am literally dying over here. I am trying so hard to not just spend everything BUT IT IS SO HARD.

Sylphid
Aug 3, 2012
But even on this happy day, we must remember those left behind. Like me. And Zep, whose pain I feel every time I get another beyond worthless duplicate Rare.



Please study every pixel of this image. Today I spent ~4,600 Jewels in an attempt to get the Fumika SSR. I, of course, failed. For all that trouble, I got like 5 or 6 actual new cards, and all but 2 of them were worthless Rares. In addition, although it is utterly meaningless, I failed to Full Combo the event song because my game was not listening to me for those five notes. I swear I hit each and every one of them. I can only hope there is an update soon, because basically there is absolutely no incentive for me to do well when I can have a 552-note combo broken instantly because the game decided to ignore me. What's doubly frustrating is no one else seems to have this problem.

Basically, check back in a couple months when I'm able to do another 10-pull. I've already passed 10,000 Jewels and no new SSRs to show for it. Let's make it 50,000!

Sylphid fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Sep 2, 2016

graybook
Oct 10, 2011

pinya~
To be fair, the expectation would be ~1 SSR in 25k jewels spent since it's a 1.5% chance to draw one.
I'm gonna stick to dailies for now but I'm definitely picking up that guaranteed ticket.
If I don't get Shiki by the end of the period I'm immediately spending all gems for her. But if I still don't, I'm just gonna get Frederica from the ticket since Dance is next groove.

Yes_Cantaloupe
Feb 28, 2005
54.6% chance for no SSRs in 10k jewels

graybook
Oct 10, 2011

pinya~
Ah, I was just going with the base rate and extending that to 100 total pulls. Fair point.

Polsy
Mar 23, 2007

I'm glad I managed to defy the odds for so long

Sylphid
Aug 3, 2012
You know, I think I might have to revise my position on 10-pulls. I mean, I have 21 SRs right now, and I'll have two more after this event ends. The most good most SRs would do for me now is to get 25-50 more Star Jewels from awakening them (especially since I have all but 11 idols in the entire game), and that's fool's math to pay 2500 Star Jewels for *maybe* 2-3 more Rares and an SR that'll get completely lost in the growing wave of them that's flooding my roster.

Besides, the odds are technically better for getting an SSR with 10 individual draws than a 10-pull, because one of those slots is a guaranteed SR. So yeah, I'm done with 10 pulling. The problem right now is that Star Jewels are gonna come in at a freakin' trickle, just because I've run out of Commus, for the most part.

taser rates
Mar 30, 2010

Sylphid posted:

You know, I think I might have to revise my position on 10-pulls. I mean, I have 21 SRs right now, and I'll have two more after this event ends. The most good most SRs would do for me now is to get 25-50 more Star Jewels from awakening them (especially since I have all but 11 idols in the entire game), and that's fool's math to pay 2500 Star Jewels for *maybe* 2-3 more Rares and an SR that'll get completely lost in the growing wave of them that's flooding my roster.

Besides, the odds are technically better for getting an SSR with 10 individual draws than a 10-pull, because one of those slots is a guaranteed SR. So yeah, I'm done with 10 pulling. The problem right now is that Star Jewels are gonna come in at a freakin' trickle, just because I've run out of Commus, for the most part.

The guaranteed slot in a 10-pull is actually for an SR or better, so it's still slightly better to do 10-pulls as opposed to individuals. Ultimately though, it's not really that big a difference except for getting SRs.

Allarion
May 16, 2009

がんばルビ!
I think it might be guaranteed either way.... but I've never tested it... I know someone made the claim that the individual pull's odds aren't actually different from the 10-pull, and there may be a hidden counter as you reach 10 pulls with the solo pulls.

Allarion fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Sep 2, 2016

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

updated deresute just for this and got my first SSR :o:

Polsy
Mar 23, 2007

Allarion posted:

I think it might be guaranteed either way.... but I've never tested it... I know someone made the claim that the individual pull's odds aren't actually different from the 10-pull, and there may be a hidden counter as you reach 10 pulls with the solo pulls. 10-pulls ignore this counter though of course.

That seems like it'd be pretty easily disprovable, but I'm not going to test it until I have every unlimited SR in the game.

Sylphid
Aug 3, 2012
The problem is that I have enough Rares and SRs that I don't really care about either at this point. This inevitably leads to tragedy.

Allarion
May 16, 2009

がんばルビ!

Sylphid posted:

The problem is that I have enough Rares and SRs that I don't really care about either at this point. This inevitably leads to tragedy.

Ah, you've hit the phase where you realize SRs are fairly common, and not as exciting anymore.

Sylphid
Aug 3, 2012

Allarion posted:

Ah, you've hit the phase where you realize SRs are fairly common, and not as exciting anymore.

Well, I wouldn't say no to a Fumika or Uzuki SR at this point, because most SRs are pretty cute, it's just the vast majority of them I have (excepting last event's Arisu) are all "Good for scores and a new Commu, but that's it". Unless I got a brand new idol SR, my excitement is in proportion to how valuable they are to me. At least you get bragging rights for an SSR. Unless you get one from the local Gacha, there's no bragging rights involved in getting a new SR.

Zenostein
Aug 16, 2008

:h::h::h:Alhamdulillah-chan:h::h::h:

Allarion posted:

Ah, you've hit the phase where you realize SRs are fairly common, and not as exciting anymore.

That's when you need to start cycling who gets on your home page, obviously. Gotta enjoy all those exciting backgrounds~

Polsy posted:

That seems like it'd be pretty easily disprovable, but I'm not going to test it until I have every unlimited SR in the game.

Wouldn't you need to do it like thousands of times just to be sure you didn't just happen to roll into that 3%10% (or whatever it actually is) on your "10th" roll? Plus, unless you used a shiny new account, you could pretty easily be starting on roll 7, assuming it actually has an internal counter.

Well, that and I kinda feel like "single pull = 11" is just an extrapolation of "you can't change the odds for a pay-only gatcha" plus "there is a daily only for paid jewels," rather than an actual thing.

Well, that and it's 10% for an SR, apparently. So uh, all things being equal I guess you're kinda-sorta guaranteed an SR in 10 rolls. Thanks wiki! Except that the 10th "guaranteed" one is apparently more like 98.5% SR 1.5%SSR, and I don't think a 1-in-10 on every quite trumps 1-in-10, except for this last one, which knocks out all the lower ones. Of course, that's just a guess, like probably every number that isn't written somewhere player-facing. Also the top (latest?) comment on the jp wiki's gacha section is a single-pull SSR Mirei and "sorry." lol

Now then, do I get tempted by Fumika or do I wait for a passion SSR gacha. Hmmm.

e. oh hey the "I hosed up" fee is only 10 jewels again! A great time to think "yeah, I can manage that in a medley" and be proven painfully incorrect!

Zenostein fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Sep 3, 2016

graybook
Oct 10, 2011

pinya~

Sylphid posted:

Well, I wouldn't say no to a Fumika or Uzuki SR at this point, because most SRs are pretty cute, it's just the vast majority of them I have (excepting last event's Arisu) are all "Good for scores and a new Commu, but that's it". Unless I got a brand new idol SR, my excitement is in proportion to how valuable they are to me. At least you get bragging rights for an SSR. Unless you get one from the local Gacha, there's no bragging rights involved in getting a new SR.

Or maybe when it's a limited SR.
Like the current Nono.

Nono~

Sylphid
Aug 3, 2012
Well, if I am misfortune enough to not get the Fumika SSR, at least I'll have nothing worth spending Jewels on for a while, except for idol inventory increases. Daily logins and acceptable event ranks will just have to sustain me.

Zettace
Nov 30, 2009
If you're paying actual money then it's better to do the daily single draw than the 10 draw if you're aiming for an SSR.

graybook
Oct 10, 2011

pinya~
Overall, but limited SSRs don't allow you to have much of an easy timeline.

Sylphid
Aug 3, 2012
I assume the Fumika and Shiki SSRs in the gacha now have been there before? Might be a while before they come around again, but as long as Namco doesn't take them out of circulation forever, there's always hope.

graybook
Oct 10, 2011

pinya~
This current pair is a new set. They'll likely be back in like almost a year, based on the rerelease of Airi and Kanako.

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

https://www.aniplexplus.com/itemcsAQLtyg

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

i'd been buying all these other figures hoping it would attract him. but now...:swoon:

Sylphid
Aug 3, 2012

graybook posted:

This current pair is a new set. They'll likely be back in like almost a year, based on the rerelease of Airi and Kanako.

Domo arigatou. I'm sure my Fumika Love will only grow stronger in the next year. Next year, I shall not fail.

You know, I gotta say, the 1st Anniversary stuff is a lot more generous than I expected. I was totally not expecting 2500 Star Jewels at once, but on top of that, there's also a new 3D model choice coming up soon, and 700 Star Jewels until the anniversary presents are done for this year. Hope they can top themselves next year, though that is asking a lot.

By the way, what does this mean?

Starlight Stage tumblr posted:

The chance of a Great Success and bonus EXP when leveling up your idols has tripled

Never heard of that mechanic.

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Allarion
May 16, 2009

がんばルビ!
There's a chance you'll get more experience than the predicted amount when leveling your idols. They just tripled that chance. I honestly never noticed that bonus exp since I have lots of trainers, but it's a mechanic I've seen in other gacha games. It's why on the rare occasion I don't have trainers, I still feed cute idols to cute idols, and passion to passion, cause it's a habit I've picked up from other gacha games where same element gives more exp.

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