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hog fat posted:you'd know something about being obnoxious you loathsome retrard infant: this is trolling! Wise Old Man: now this, this is Real Literature e: speaking of books I left my copy of 2666 on a train so I guess I'm not reading that now 
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Congratulations for not wasting any more time on it
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Sep 1, 2016 23:09
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hog fat posted:you'd know something about being obnoxious you loathsome retrard i've never seen someone referred to as both "loathsome" and a "retard." that's a special combination. i work at a school for kids with disabilities, and while they certainly have their behavioral issues, i wouldn't say that any of them are particularly "loathsome." "loathsome" implies more malicious presence of mind than any of my students could muster. they mostly just want you to let them watch their favorite 5 seconds of Sesame Street over and over. anyway, i'm still reading Sometimes A Great Notion. it's great. it deserves to be the Kesey book that everyone reads. it has vast emotional scope, but takes place on a constrained scale. that is, except for the very first chapter: a whirlwind tour through decades of the main Stamper family's history, with POV and time switching with little warning. but i found it exhilarating. i'm sure i'll have more to say about it once i'm done.
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Sep 1, 2016 23:28
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blue squares posted:Congratulations for not wasting any more time on it Get out. That book is amazing
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Sep 2, 2016 00:52
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blue squares posted:Congratulations for not wasting any more time on it I was enjoying it
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Schmischmenjamin posted:i've never seen someone referred to as both "loathsome" and a "retard." that's a special combination. i work at a school for kids with disabilities, and while they certainly have their behavioral issues, i wouldn't say that any of them are particularly "loathsome." "loathsome" implies more malicious presence of mind than any of my students could muster. they mostly just want you to let them watch their favorite 5 seconds of Sesame Street over and over. No, he said "retrard." It's a new slang word for those blinded by nostalgia, especially nostalgia for a time they never knew, combining the words "retro" and "retard." I dunno why he used it here, unless he things we only like old literature.
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Schmischmenjamin posted:i've never seen someone referred to as both "loathsome" and a "retard." that's a special combination. i work at a school for kids with disabilities, and while they certainly have their behavioral issues, i wouldn't say that any of them are particularly "loathsome." "loathsome" implies more malicious presence of mind than any of my students could muster. they mostly just want you to let them watch their favorite 5 seconds of Sesame Street over and over. it doesn't surprise me that you teach retarded children. your definition is incorrect, i suggest purchasing a copy of the OED and a magnifying glass. SAGN was required reading in high school and a book i've returned to since. i think it's really chill, cool, and good. the river is my favorite character. hog fat fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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Sep 2, 2016 02:51
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blue squares posted:Congratulations for not wasting any more time on it blue squares, fan of City on Fire, otherwise known as the Dashboard Confessional of contemporary literature Solitair posted:unless he things we only like old literature. Paging Ras Het
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Sep 2, 2016 02:54
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genji raped someone again but it's ok he is really handsome and he dances really well. also i took a slight detour into hrabal land because i found too loud a solitude in a bookstore
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Sep 2, 2016 04:27
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hrabal is so fun to read but i can't imagine what reading him in czech is like because dancing lessons for the advanced in age was like three long run on sentences
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Reading Dubliners on my trip to Ireland seems to have been a really good idea. It really helps that this is the centennial of the 1916 uprising that lead to independence. It puts the stories in perspective since they were written and released in the decade beforehand. Every story is laced with a sense of foreboding and the threads of nationalism in the stories are eye opening. I'll probably want to jump into more Joyce afterwards but Ulysses still scares me.
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Sep 2, 2016 15:24
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james joyce, a debauched drunk, is emblematic of all irish nationalists
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TheManFromFOXHOUND posted:Reading Dubliners on my trip to Ireland seems to have been a really good idea. It really helps that this is the centennial of the 1916 uprising that lead to independence. It puts the stories in perspective since they were written and released in the decade beforehand. Every story is laced with a sense of foreboding and the threads of nationalism in the stories are eye opening. God tier order is Dubliners -> Portrait -> Ulysses Ulysses is big and intimidating but don't let that stop you. It's beautiful, one of those books you can just kind of "go with" if you get lost, and there are tons of online guides to help
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your first read of ulysses should, imo, be fairly passive. if you try to analyse it or, for that matter, even keep track of everything that's going on you're apt to get lost and frustrated and give up. just let it wash over you like a warm, clear sea~~
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For the book fetishist here some images from Bottom's Dream. It's currently "on sale" on Amazon and shipping next week even if the official release date is end of September. On bookdepository it's shipping now, but it has a crazy price. My copy should be on the way soon. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrPecAIUIAA4Y6q.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrPecAdVYAACBgE.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrPecAaVMAMbd3Y.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqeYtZmUAAAcrg7.jpg:large And it's kind of big: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrSQO2RUMAAGwGF.jpg (though to be able to read it I'd need a 3000 pages companion book guide. this stuff doesn't look very "readable") Abalieno fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Sep 3, 2016 |
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Sep 3, 2016 01:37
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I preordered it via Booktopia, 100 bucks, not bad. Can't wait tbh
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A little over halfway through Aquarium and golly gee shucks did it go to a personal and super uncomfortable place! Caribou Island bored me less than fifty pages in. I guess it's all about how you connect with the subject matter.
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Abalieno posted:(though to be able to read it I'd need a 3000 pages companion book guide. this stuff doesn't look very "readable") It looks pretty fun man, those pages are pretty legible
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Finished Gravity's Rainbow ten minutes ago and that was...that was a lot. I think I loved it but I'm very confused
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Guy A. Person posted:Yeah I read that earlier this year - In Other Worlds. It was basically a series of essays where she talks about her love of sci-fi even going back to old pulp novels, it's great. Ordered
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Sep 4, 2016 15:54
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DoctorG0nzo posted:Finished Gravity's Rainbow ten minutes ago and that was...that was a lot. I just finished it yesterday. It's a masterpiece, full of so many ideas & good rear end prose. All the stuff about endless war & it's connection 2 corporatism is especially relevant now and also probably when he was writing it. It was really hard to read though and I prolly need to read it again with a guide to pick up on all the kool stuff & hidden connections.
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Can someone remind me which translations of The Iliad and The Odyssey are worth reading? I'd prefer rhyming translations if possible; earlier in the thread C'est Moi quoted a section of Pope's Iliad and I liked the way it sounded, plus I think I can stick with it longer than CM can.
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So is The Nix by Nathan Hill actually good or new City on Fire? I've been burned by contemporary literature so bad, I've decided to stick to "classics" only, but that one does sound great. I'm currently reading Joseph and His Brothers by Thomas Mann, novel about Important Things by former World of Warcraft addict feels so distant
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mallamp posted:new City on Fire? I've been burned I get it.
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mallamp posted:So is The Nix by Nathan Hill actually good or new City on Fire? Never heard of it but I googled it and the first three reviews on the Amazon page make it sound really dumb and cliche MFA junk mallamp posted:I've been burned by contemporary literature so bad, I've decided to stick to "classics" only this is a tragic decision
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Just finished "She," not sure if I liked it or not...?
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The M Rider Haggard one where a sexy lady is revealed to be a shrivelled ape by the touch of fire?
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Mr. Squishy posted:The M Rider Haggard one where a sexy lady is revealed to be a shrivelled ape by the touch of fire? Yeah
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Solitair posted:Can someone remind me which translations of The Iliad and The Odyssey are worth reading? I'd prefer rhyming translations if possible; earlier in the thread C'est Moi quoted a section of Pope's Iliad and I liked the way it sounded, plus I think I can stick with it longer than CM can. Pope's Iliad has some staggeringly gorgeous passages, read it for sure, but I wouldn't read it as "the Iliad", it lets too much slip which is weird for me to complain about because I really wish Pope had hacked apart the story to turn it into his own thing. Why do you want rhyming? The original doesn't rhyme, it's just in meter which the really excellent translations by Lattimore and FItzgerald preserve. In conclusion read one of Lattimore or Fitzgerald, then read Pope then learn Greek and read it in Greek.
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I've not read it but my second-hand opinion is that it's not great literature but interesting for it's topic and massive popularity at the time.
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Fun fact: Greek poetry doesn't rhyme because it's meant to be read aloud, that's the rhythm, so remember to read it aloud for true connoisseur experience
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Fun fact: if you don;'t read poetry aloud anwyay you SUCK
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CestMoi posted:Pope's Iliad has some staggeringly gorgeous passages, read it for sure, but I wouldn't read it as "the Iliad", it lets too much slip which is weird for me to complain about because I really wish Pope had hacked apart the story to turn it into his own thing. Why do you want rhyming? The original doesn't rhyme, it's just in meter which the really excellent translations by Lattimore and FItzgerald preserve. rhyming translations are an iffy proposition at best even when the original text does rhyme; one of the few translations that I think handles it well is john ciardi's rendering of the divine comedy but yeah the greek doesn't rhyme. i prefer fagles over lattimore (i've not read fitzgerald) but you won't go amiss with either imo
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mallamp posted:Not really, I feel like I've read enough and if I want to have bloomian grasp of canon one day, I better focus. I'll read this years releases in 10+ years when hype is gone The canon does not exist and is the delusion of white male navel gazers happy to help Mel Mudkiper fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Sep 6, 2016 |
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Sep 6, 2016 15:33
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Mel Mudkiper posted:The canon does not exist and is the delusion of white male navel gazers hth I agree with this wholeheartedly. That's not to say that the classics aren't good, but "the Canon" is sexist, racist, and every other -ist
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