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How do I get polled? Is it like being a Nielson family?
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Dork457 posted:How do I get polled? Is it like being a Nielson family? Answer every phone call, no matter how shady the callerid looks.
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Dork457 posted:How do I get polled? Is it like being a Nielson family? You get lucky.
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Dork457 posted:How do I get polled? Is it like being a Nielson family? You can just go sign up to be in the pool for that Ipsos panel. They give out points to cash in for rewards for each survey you take, and if you're young they'll offer you as many surveys as you want because they desperately need young people. There's no way to guarantee that you'd randomly get the politics survey, but that's probably your best odds.
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withak posted:Answer every phone call, no matter how shady the callerid looks. Oh gently caress that never answer shady calls.
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DemeaninDemon posted:Oh gently caress that never answer shady calls. God dammit Hillary, stop calling me every loving day for donations, I already said I wont donate over the phone
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Sep 3, 2016 06:08
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If Joe Biden sends me an email I'll drop a twenty. Only him though none of this Paine or B-Rock the Islamic Shock poo poo.
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Sep 3, 2016 06:12
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I wished I got GOTV calls/texts from Clinton. I still have a primary text for Bernie and a pamphlet.
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Sep 3, 2016 06:19
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So I have a conservative friend who posts a ton of stuff on Facebook and I spend my time commenting/correcting like "... ok read it but actually what she really said, whole quote, is XXX, which isn't that bad..." or "this person that died was not the lead attorney prosecuting the DNC, it was the process SERVER that served the case..." and pointed out error after error... they are always there. I said why don't we write up the biggest flaws of Trump/Clinton/Democrats/Republicans and why we are voting Clinton/Trump, thought it would be fun to pick at the big points and discuss them in the least offensive way possible... see if there is ever such thing as common ground i.e. would you vote XXX if instead his/her policy was YYY? I sent a partial write up and he sent his. Mine was basically Trump's the wet dream president for Vladamir Putin/Russia who are real scumbags, doubling down on mafioso policies, and interfere with other countries elections, and also Trump's immigration plan will never work. I personally would like to see a non standard issue politician be president like Trump but he's in bed with a real scumbag and he doesn't seem to have a coherent or realistic plan. His partial, first main point was that Hillary has medical issues. He cites videos that kind of make it look like she could have had some seizure but in my opinion she really was just blown away by chirping reporters, another video was something that he alleges was her forgetting where she was at but the Secret Service agent appeared to come up and say she could continue... due to a security threat, and evidence of her needing pillows on her chairs. That was his opener. That topic is all I got so far. Nothing on policy so far. So yeah that's my story of trying to talk politics with my conservative fb-posting friend.
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Sep 3, 2016 06:21
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I love the Hillary health concerns considering that the best President in the history of our country literally couldn't loving walk.
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The people who seem the most "concerned" about Hillary's health sure don't bring up Kaine much for some reason. Like, if Hillary's health was such a huge issue, then it would make sense to bash her running mate, but the right's been pretty silent about Kaine since the DNC. I've heard more criticism of Kaine from the left than from the right.
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Sep 3, 2016 06:31
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I don't think the Republicans want to even bring up the subject of the Vice President since not even Trump likes Pence.
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I'm gonna continue to think the Hillary health thing is projection. Trump's the flabby, wrinkled pumpkin you left on your porch until election day.
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the really threadbare logic and weak poo poo reasons for not voting Clinton are pretty telling. I mean, I respect the conservatives who just say honestly that they think Trump can be tricked into doing whatever they want him to do when he's president, while Clinton will play hardball with them. but for the people that hold onto the emails or her supposed ill health or one of the other non-issues, I feel as if they really don't understand at all why they feel the way they feel about the election, and have never really taken any time to reflect on their own positions.
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They need to hate her, because in their world everything is her fault, Obama's fault, the liberals' fault. It's the same lizard brain hate reaction they had to Obama in 2008 & 2012, only expressed a little more articulately. Anything that justifies the hate is accepted as factual reasoning whether it's reality based or not.
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All the arzying can be deflated by the fact that Clinton's already touched on the fact that Trump routinely doesn't pay the people who build his buildings, and it hurt his polling enough to show it works even if its not emphasized. I honestly think it's going to become a huge rear end hashtag come debate time, with tons of documentation and copious accounts of ruined businesses, court cases with well to do Republican lawyers working pro bono to ruin Trump conclusively. I am sure there are lots of skeletons in the closet but I don't even think they're needed for the Senate to flip. I think it'll be a entirely a long, multi-threaded, interwoven, Surprising October for Donald.
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Lightning Knight posted:
I'm on a different time zone that is why I'm ten pages late to this. https://www.clintonfoundation.org/contributors?category=%2410%2C000%2C001+to+%2425%2C000%2C000 The above is the info for the Saudi donation, one article I read says that it was for a library, but contributing money like that does not come without long term strings attached. These politicians are smart enough to know that she couldn't be accepting money like this while she is secretary of state. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/george-soros-democratic-convention-226267 The Soros donations discussed. And the issue is not that he is whatever religious denomination, it's an issue of huge strings being attached to donors of this magnitude. I also want to hit back on people minimizing her email server. I know E-1s in the military that have more comsec than this woman showed. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fbi-releases-documents-related-clinton-email-investigation-174820715.html If you are running a private server and can't remember signing documents that give you rights to government secrets then at the least this is gross negligence. This has nothing to do with conspiracy theories, but the bare minimum that service member would be held to when they are obligated to deal with classified information. If any soldier or officer in the military did what she did they would have lost their entire ability to deal with classified data. http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/28/are-the-clintons-the-real-housing-crash-villains.html The housing bubble and Clinton's contributions to the issue. It's not sexist to call someone's morals into question when the person they marry has very questionable morals. I'm actually not even pro Trump, I think his immigration policies would further turn the US into a police state particularly for latinos. But to give so much leniency to Clinton is really disgusting to me. hexenmexen fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Sep 3, 2016 |
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is that a Trump supporter in the wild? Or better yet, a Bernie bro?
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hexenmexen posted:I'm on a different time zone that is why I'm ten pages late to this. You act like Hillary Clinton is taking money under the table from the international mafia. She posted that she takes money from these people for charity purposes on a goddamn public website. Like gee, that sounds like a terrible plan if you want to cover something up. Unless, you know, there's nothing to cover up. What leverage do the Saudis have over Hillary Clinton? What are they going to do, manipulate the price of oil? If they had the power to do that unilaterally we wouldn't be seeing remarkably low gas prices right now. This isn't the '70s and OPEC isn't going to blockade the US over Clinton Cash. They stand to lose far more than they'd gain. Also here's your daily reminder that the Saudis depend on their continued access to the cock of the US military-industrial complex they suck daily and would shrivel up and die without it. They're not going to get into a pissing contest with President Clinton over some small change donation they made to her charity in the past and risk starting a feud with the leader of the free world. Historically, that tends not to go well for tinpot dictatorships. I'm also not sure what George Soros, noted backer of various left-wing causes, would be using his vague, ill-defined "leverage" over Hillary for, making her platform more progressive? Well goddamn, better cry wolf about that to the public. A private in the military would have been punished for what Hillary did because the military operates under different, more draconian rules than civilians, for mostly good reason. Hillary Clinton, however, was not and has never been in the US Military and thus would not be subject to military law - under which, yes, she would have committed a crime. If what Hillary had done qualified as "gross negligence," or anything else with any legal weight, she would be getting indicted by the Justice Department right now, full stop. Why? Because Comey is a right-wing hack who has a noted history of trying to hang the Clintons with anything he could get his hands on. And even he doesn't think she broke the law, or that any prosecutor in their right mind would take such a case to court. Hillary Clinton, at worst, broke government protocols on IT security in the same way that happens at any other major multinational corporation or major government organization probably every single day. The pissing match between the State Department (let's classify things that deserve it!) and the CIA and FBI (let's classify everything because we're assholes!) is preposterous and anybody taking the side of the motherfucking CIA in a debate on what should be classified should take a good, hard look into the mirror, lest one shout that you aren't owned as you shrink into a Republican. Hillary has historically backed some bad plays and policies and is not a perfect candidate. Ok. I'll give you that. Doesn't change that she is, at the present time, the only good candidate running, and is running a good platform. Edit: Also, lmao that "Hillary Clinton, noted 68 year old grandma, does not in fact recall in perfect detail every meeting she's ever attended" is a legit talking point you think is damning evidence. Edit 2: Also also, lmao at this article you linked as evidence, written by Larry Kudlow, a literal Trump shill who concludes his article with "Trump is a good businessman and he would serve our country well as it's next President" at the end of this tripe. 
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https://twitter.com/UnlikelyWorlds/status/771968620989648897 E: 
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Rotten Red Rod posted:https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/771858220864434181 Maybe I thought of this first because I'm old.  Also just in case the anti-Obama apocalypse-level hysteria wasn't enough: quote:Former congresswoman and regular predictor of the impending apocalypse Michele Bachmann said in a Friday interview that the 2016 presidential race would be the country’s “last election.” I love the way Obama and Clinton have been molded into some sort of dual-headed monster like Kuato, the ObamaClinton!
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quote:Bachmann said that if Clinton were elected, she would offer “wholesale amnesty” to undocumented immigrants “so that Republicans will never again have the chance at winning Florida or Texas” and therefore be unable to secure the White House. I grew up in a place white and sheltered enough that I implicitly thought I'd never know what black people feel like to see people in power who unequivocally and clearly hate their very existence because they won't roll over, die, and allow whatever fascist bullshit is popular that decade. I was wrong. I hope somebody stuffs her in the back of the taco truck Hillary assigns to her corner. 
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quote:this is the last election when we even have a chance to vote for somebody who will stand up for godly moral principles. sounds rad as hell imo
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hexenmexen posted:http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/28/are-the-clintons-the-real-housing-crash-villains.html I just want to point out that this article is bullshit. It blames the Community Reinvestment Act for the 07/08 financial crash, which is the rightwing narrative despite the fact that it's absolutely untrue. Only about 6% of misprized mortgages were originated under the CRA, the majority of subprimes were for lenders that made too much money to be covered by the CRA. It also blames Fannie and Freddie, despite the fact that (a) the bubble coincided with a period where their market share dropped significantly and (b) Fannie and Freddie loans were about 6 times less likely to default during the whole shitshow.
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quote:Bachmann said that if Clinton were elected, she would offer “wholesale amnesty” to undocumented immigrants “so that Republicans will never again have the chance at winning Florida or Texas” and therefore be unable to secure the White House.
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Inferior Third Season posted:I like how she is just admitting that the GOP is incapable of ever changing itself to the point that immigrant populations would ever consider voting for them. Plus I thought they were all voting right now anyway, hence the need for strict voter ID laws
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hexenmexen posted:http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/george-soros-democratic-convention-226267 Could you explain to me what strings are attached? Let's see what dastardly causes your article has uncovered, so we can get a glimpse of this scheming Jew's master agenda: politico posted:[George Soros] focused his philanthropic attention on his international foundations, which have donated more than $13 billion over the past three decades to nonprofits that aim to defend human rights, shape the democratic process in Eastern Europe and expand access to health care and education in the U.S. and around the world.  Oh no! Not human rights, health care, and education! Not democracy! The fiend. Why if she gets elected he could call in his favors and force her to give health care and education to us all.And look what else politico posted:End Citizens United, which supports candidates, including Clinton, who pledge to push campaign finance reforms, this year received a $5,000 check from Soros, the maximum he could legally give to that group. Hmmm, donating to a group trying to overturn Citizens United and close the spigot of ultrarich donors and corporations buying politicians. Must be a false flag to throw us off the trail, exactly what a puppetmaster Jew would do! VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 11:45 on Sep 3, 2016 |
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botany posted:I just want to point out that this article is bullshit. It blames the Community Reinvestment Act for the 07/08 financial crash, which is the rightwing narrative despite the fact that it's absolutely untrue. Only about 6% of misprized mortgages were originated under the CRA, the majority of subprimes were for lenders that made too much money to be covered by the CRA. It also blames Fannie and Freddie, despite the fact that (a) the bubble coincided with a period where their market share dropped significantly and (b) Fannie and Freddie loans were about 6 times less likely to default during the whole shitshow. Blaming the CRA is dog whistling from financial types that minorities are inherantly bad with money as a way to deflect blame from themselves for obviously loving everything up. It appeals to serious people that desperately want to believe in the moral banker fallacy. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Sep 3, 2016 |
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They just made quid pro quo legal by president as long as you dont look directly into a recorder and say "i am doing this is exchange for this money". At this point the damage is already done, even without CU. (And hillary seems to have taken these loopholes and run with them, an issue totally apart from the email BS)
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WeAreTheRomans posted:sounds rad as hell imo Haha she's implying that Donald Trump stands for godly moral principles pacerhimself fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Sep 3, 2016 |
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Sep 3, 2016 12:00
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lol the pastor Mark L Burns who introduces Trump a lot has a fake degree and lied about serving in the army on his website
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MattD1zzl3 posted:They just made quid pro quo legal by president as long as you dont look directly into a recorder and say "i am doing this is exchange for this money". At this point the damage is already done, even without CU. You can undo that damage. You can appoint justices like Ginsberg and Breyer (her husband's picks) that will overturn that part of McCutcheon. Oh hey, there's an opening on the court right now! Then the federal government or any state can pass a new campaign finance law and appeal it all the way to the supreme court. Or you could keep electing Republicans forever I guess, and never figure out why we can't seem to get donation limits.
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Spatula City posted:the really threadbare logic and weak poo poo reasons for not voting Clinton are pretty telling. I mean, I respect the conservatives who just say honestly that they think Trump can be tricked into doing whatever they want him to do when he's president, while Clinton will play hardball with them. but for the people that hold onto the emails or her supposed ill health or one of the other non-issues, I feel as if they really don't understand at all why they feel the way they feel about the election, and have never really taken any time to reflect on their own positions. This. The whole Republican brand depends heavily on appealing straight to its voters' biases and emotions and suppressing their ability to think critically or dare accept information from other sources. When you question them on why they believe what they do, they almost never properly articulate it beyond repeating buzzwords since they don't really understand it themselves. That's not even getting into the denial of racism and history that the Republicans spew.
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Epic High Five posted:Plus I thought they were all voting right now anyway, hence the need for strict voter ID laws Speaking of, here's yet another article on how shameless NC Republicans are about preventing "democrats who just happen to be black" from voting: quote:RALEIGH, N.C. — The emails to the North Carolina election board seemed routine at the time. quote:The Rev. William Barber II, president of North Carolina’s NAACP chapter, said the policies enacted by the law speak for themselves. "How dare you call us racist, we're just aggressively disenfranchising voters because they're democrats, so it's all above board!" Notice they don't even bother using the "in-person voter fraud" fig leaf anymore.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Speaking of, here's yet another article on how shameless NC Republicans are about preventing "democrats who just happen to be black" from voting: So long as they don't appear on television in white hood, burning a cross and say the worlds "I am doing this because I hate non-white people and think they are inferior to whiites" they won't suffer anything for it. Honestly, these days, even that may not be enough.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Speaking of, here's yet another article on how shameless NC Republicans are about preventing "democrats who just happen to be black" from voting: I love the logic that discriminating against Black and Hispanic people based on their race, using data compiled about their race and targeting their race using that data, is not racist because those categories of people tend to vote for the Democrats. I wonder what would happen if there was a black-majority state that targeted white people for voter suppression and then justified it by saying "hey, if white people didn't want to be voter suppressed, they shouldn't have been so Republican". I wonder how that would play out.
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Inferior Third Season posted:I like how she is just admitting that the GOP is incapable of ever changing itself to the point that immigrant populations would ever consider voting for them. Or doesn't seem to realize that there could be valid elections with other parties which represent different priorities than the current Democratic and Republican coalitions.
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The Glumslinger posted:God dammit Hillary, stop calling me every loving day for donations, I already said I wont donate over the phone is that a scam that actually happens? because if not I am surprised it isn't during election seasons. hell even outside of them
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Geostomp posted:So long as they don't appear on television in white hood, burning a cross and say the worlds "I am doing this because I hate non-white people and think they are inferior to whiites" they won't suffer anything for it. Honestly, these days, even that may not be enough. In appropriately gerrymandered districts, wearing white hoods and burning crosses solidifies support among the base. My state wasn't always this bad 
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