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Gail Wynand posted:That assumes Uber doesn't offer accessible vehicles, considering some cities already mandate they do so they probably will in these cases. Probably will, oh so I guess that makes it okay. Haven't there been stories about Uber drivers refusing service to wheelchair bound passengers and telling a blind person they would need to put their seeing eye dog in the trunk?
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Panfilo posted:Paratransit services usually cost about $16 a trip and you need to schedule pickup pretty far in advance. The people relying on these services are often on fixed incomes . They'll typically get discounted or free fare on buses assuming they can access the stops. On the other hand, county agencies aren't exactly rolling in cash and if something like this frees up transport dollars that can be more impactfully used elsewhere (maybe adding buses on busy routes, or even subsidizing paratransit) then I TT for the bus drivers but meh? Like, go through this exercise. If the savings generated by the program, on one route, amount to $10 per rider x 5 riders per hour x 10 hours per day x 200 days (just to make this easy math), that is $100,000 that could be used for other purposes, like subsidizing paratransit. At $16 each that is 6,250 rides for disabled people just along that route. If total ridership is 10,000 rides a year, that probably means every disabled person who was riding that route could be given free paratransit with some money left over to subsidize other things. Transit authorities could negotiate with Uber and make provisions for the disabled within the partnership agreement and likely save even more.
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If a public entity, even through a contractor, provides a sevice that isn't accessable to some disabled people, they're facing a pretty large and strong ada suit. I suspect they've (the public entity, not uber) worked out some way to provide the same service to disabled persons as a result.
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wateroverfire posted:On the other hand, county agencies aren't exactly rolling in cash and if something like this frees up transport dollars that can be more impactfully used elsewhere (maybe adding buses on busy routes, or even subsidizing paratransit) then I TT for the bus drivers but meh? This is a make believe government. Even in advanced countries like the USA local authorities will happily poison their citizens to save a buck. I'm sure that disabled person's transit budget will remain untouched.
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Toplowtech posted:Well see they didn't choose a reliable launcher like Arianne 5 (73rd consecutive successful mission since 2003) but the still in prototyping phase disruptive Silicon Valley sponsored Space-X launcher that re-use the Falcon 9 rocket to save money instead. It is SpaceX's fault but this was a fresh rocket and had nothing to do with reusability. Losing the satellite had everything to do with them leaving it on the rocket to save a day and their lovely expendable second stage.
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WampaLord posted:I literally just read a medium story about this, including Photoshopped bank transfers to "prove" that payroll had been sent out. Jesus loving Christ  I want to hug that person. There's hosed up and then there's that.
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Lawman 0 posted:It is SpaceX's fault but this was a fresh rocket and had nothing to do with reusability. Losing the satellite had everything to do with them leaving it on the rocket to save a day and their lovely expendable second stage. Edit: "Elon Musk calls the sudden ball of fire 'not an explosion'"
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Toplowtech posted:The more we learn about this accident the funnier it becomes.
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wateroverfire posted:The actual regulatory authorities involved here seem to think Uber is fine to work with, so ?? Uber doesn't seem to think so, going by Austin.
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D34THROW posted:Jesus loving Christ Yeah, it's unbelievably bad that that company is still operating and the founders aren't in hock to their victims/in prison for this sort of thing. Mrs. Penny got off light compared to the immigrants though, they're practically chained to their job now.  I'd give them all new jobs and a hug if I could.
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It's cool, that 1 star Glassdoor review they have coming will ensure they never work in this town again.
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I'm pretty sure the follow-up articles said that it seemed to have closed this week after the press attention. (It got discussed a lot a page or two ago). The company was WrkRiot, in case you were wondering. http://www.businessinsider.com/wrkriot-burned-700000-allegedly-lied-to-employees-2016-8 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12382955 https://twitter.com/NinjaEconomics/status/770421298728169473 You can see some of their (now-down) website using the Wayback Machine. https://web.archive.org/web/20160829050750/http://www.wrkriot.com/#home-1-section Scroll down to the Blog section. Unfortunately the posts weren't archived, but the choices of headlines are pretty funny given the whole situation.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:You can see some of their (now-down) website using the Wayback Machine. This is an elaborate parody, right?
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You can tell how garbage their "case" is from the gloriously unprofessional tone of their statement. It's like the sort of thing Leonard J. Crabs would've been responding to in 2004.
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WampaLord posted:I literally just read a medium story about this, including Photoshopped bank transfers to "prove" that payroll had been sent out. So basically the fraudulent Madoff Investment Securities statements that were chucked to investors.
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Toplowtech posted:The more we learn about this accident the funnier it becomes. He's right, it was more like a big-rear end flamethrower. They've had trouble with the fuel lines on the second stage before. SpaceX has been struggling to stay on its promised launch schedule. WSJ says that Tesla and Elon's solar venture are also going through a cash crunch, so a blown up launch pad couldn't come at a much worse time. I know the satellites are insured but I wonder if the pad is.
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Arglebargle III posted:He's right, it was more like a big-rear end flamethrower. They've had trouble with the fuel lines on the second stage before. it wasn't damaged apparently
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Munkeymon posted:Eh, I recognize that they violate the same laws, but holy poo poo their business practices look like a next-level scam that I'm pretty sure only works because universities have a lot of money and are reliable, captive customers. They can't even claim to be doing a lot of the work a normal mass-market publisher does and they still have much better margins just for acting as a now-mostly-useless middle man that doesn't even pay for the expert work they get out of the actual value-add step in the process. I disagree with the lack of intermediaries. Editors and curators should get paid, and they serve a valuable role. The issue is that the rates are prohibitive for most universities. I agree with the issue of unis being a captive audience. Also, as I mentioned, unis end up hostages of the publishers, since they no longer have an archive Tha they can access. Now, if you think all of this is bad, imagine how bad it is when the knowledge being kept under pay walls are court decisions. I'm doing my PhD in law, and while US decisions have been mostly indexed by Google, many UK cases can only be accessed via Lloyd's Reports or similar periodicals, all of which cost thousands upon thousands per year.
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The US legal caselaw is probably going to be freely and fully publicly available, at least at the federal levels (and probably most states) in 10-15 years. It's part of why the two big entities in private legal databases released premium versions of their systems. Other countries will follow/are following suit. edit: fun fact: part of my research program involves taking what works from scientific and legal communication systems and cross-pollinating. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Sep 3, 2016 |
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Discendo Vox posted:The US legal caselaw is probably going to be freely and fully publicly available, at least at the federal levels (and probably most states) in 10-15 years. It's part of why the two big entities in private legal databases released premium versions of their systems. Other countries will follow/are following suit. I'll believe it when I see it. The Lexis and West lobbies are pretty strong. Also, beyond searching (which sucks on both), Shepardizing (or the generic version) is really where the real value is and still probably requires an actual human, so I don't see that going the way of the do-do any time soon. It would be great though.
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Condiv posted:it wasn't damaged apparently The satellite that fell 200 feet to the ground or the launch gantry that was visibly twisted?
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Kobayashi posted:Has there ever been a Silicon Valley company whose lore includes missing payroll and stories about the crazy days where the employees worked for free? That seems like a myth even SV can't sell. FedEx http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/15/fred-smith-blackjack-fedex_n_1966837.html
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Lote posted:FedEx Arkansas is usually not considered part of SV, but I'll hear you out.
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nm posted:I'll believe it when I see it. The Lexis and West lobbies are pretty strong. Also, beyond searching (which sucks on both), Shepardizing (or the generic version) is really where the real value is and still probably requires an actual human, so I don't see that going the way of the do-do any time soon. It would be great though. It's happening. Again, that's explicitly the reason they developed Nexis and Next- to give added value and try to keep customers as things become publicly available. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Sep 4, 2016 |
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Gail Wynand posted:That assumes Uber doesn't offer accessible vehicles, considering some cities already mandate they do so they probably will in these cases. No, they won't. We tried that here and they left town until they could get a waiver.
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Arglebargle III posted:I know the satellites are insured but I wonder if the pad is. spacex leases pads from the us government at cape canaveral, so lol apparently the tower etc. is owned by spacex
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Yeah, NASA is selling abandoned launchpads at Cape Canveral like mad and even considered selling the Vehicle Assembly Building, so if you want something to blast a rocket off of there's some memory of America's space race just a few miles away waiting for you.
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Craptacular! posted:Yeah, NASA is selling abandoned launchpads at Cape Canveral like mad and even considered selling the Vehicle Assembly Building That's depressing as hell.
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Schubalts posted:That's depressing as hell. Private Space is blowing up!
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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If it's possible to make less than $2 an hour Uber has done something very wrong. There just isn't an excuse for that.
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I kind of wonder about the numerator in that fraction. Is he counting "hours worked" as having the app on or actual driving? He could be doing any number of other things while having the app on, even sitting in his house watching TV. And since this is a lawsuit he has incentive to pad the numbers.
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Gail Wynand posted:I kind of wonder about the numerator in that fraction. Is he counting "hours worked" as having the app on or actual driving? He could be doing any number of other things while having the app on, even sitting in his house watching TV. And since this is a lawsuit he has incentive to pad the numbers. Given that Uber knows, via GPS, exactly where his phone is at all times he's got the app open, this would be an easily falsifiable lie, and a competent lawyer would advise against it.
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Don't Uber drivers generally either circle areas or idle at central locations when waiting for fares? That kind of behavior is what I'd consider to be on the clock if we're calling Uber drivers misclassified employees. Like, I'm a contractor. A decent portion of my time is spent writing proposals, networking, or doing general administrative tasks and none of that is billable to anyone, but I'm also able to account for that time in the rates I charge. There's a problem if Uber drivers aren't able to even hit minimum wage once you factor in time that isn't billable.
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Legislators around the world agree with you, it's why Uber is finding themself legislated out of markets.
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Gail Wynand posted:I kind of wonder about the numerator in that fraction. Is he counting "hours worked" as having the app on or actual driving? He could be doing any number of other things while having the app on, even sitting in his house watching TV. And since this is a lawsuit he has incentive to pad the numbers. Yeah, the nature of the Uber app is that the drivers basically need to be driving around (or parked very close to a pick-up zone, e.g. the gas station near an airport) all the time while they're on the clock.
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MiddleOne posted:Legislators around the world agree with you, it's why Uber is finding themself legislated out of markets. There's legislation based on compensation? I'd only heard of ones involving licensing or driver requirements. Can you point to an example?
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Technically speaking if you're waiting for the company to need you then you are on call and get some compensation because they are owning your time. Ambulance drivers do get paid when sitting and waiting after all while people "on call" sometimes first their jobs often get at least a decent salary. Uber is just being lovely.
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Subjunctive posted:There's legislation based on compensation? I'd only heard of ones involving licensing or driver requirements. Is that an important difference? The end-result is still that Uber is out. In many countries the two are tied together. Being a certified taxi driver means being paid according to union set taxi driver minimum standards.
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Subjunctive posted:There's legislation based on compensation? I'd only heard of ones involving licensing or driver requirements. About five posts up: Arsenic Lupin posted:North Carolina Uber driver: I'm an employee, you aren't paying minimum wage, cough up! E: At least, there's litigation arguing that the legislation based on compensation already exists. This is a fairly strong argument.
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