Fluffy Chainsaw posted:

According to the CME, Canadian manufacturers received 27%, or $4.8B in capital spending on equipment and a further $1.2B in manufacturing related to maintenance and repair.

Fluffy Chainsaw posted:

With respect to trade secrets and tech, you're flat wrong. COSIA, the oil sands innovation alliance, is responsible for sharing more than 800 environmental technologies valued at more than $1.3B.

Fluffy Chainsaw posted:

Imperial's Kearl mine, which produces bitumen with an emissions profile effectively the same as a conventional barrel of crude, is based off of a concept developed at our very own NRC and refined in Calgary.

Fluffy Chainsaw posted:

The production of energy resources, especially the only resource capable of fueling the world's transportation needs at our current moment in time is not a bad thing.

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As a young amateur boxer in Beatles-era Liverpool, Dr. Brian Day followed avidly Mohammed Ali’s epic rise inside the ring, and struggles against racism outside it.

Half a century later, with the trial of Day’s long-delayed constitutional challenge of Canada’s medicare system is finally set to begin, the private-clinic owner is likening his crusade to Ali’s role in the civil rights movement.

That would come as something of a surprise to his critics, more apt to see him as an enemy of the people, a dire threat to the equitable health care cherished by so many Canadians.

If the orthopedic surgeon wins – and higher courts uphold the ruling – the case could effectively end the equal access that is at the heart of the country’s health-care system, critics warn.

But Day insists he is fighting for Canadians’ right to health care free of lengthy waits, something he believes entrepreneurial physicians like him are particularly adept at providing. That’s not unlike advocating for same-sex marriage, abortion rights or safe-injection sites, he contends.

“When I was a kid, I was a boxer, I listened to Ali beat Sonny Liston … and he was not allowed to go on certain buses,” says Day. “These are all injustices and someone had to stand there and argue and fight for those laws to be overturned. And this (Canada Health Act) is a law that is literally killing Canadians.”

Defenders of the medicare system not surprisingly reject Day’s talk of rights and injustices, saying evidence shows that freeing up a private system — even if it worked hand-in-hand with the public one as he proposes — would only make it tougher for the poor to access care, and vacuum resources from the public side.

Day may be ideologically opposed to universal, single-payer health care, but he is also anxious to uphold a practice that enriches him personally, argued Dr. Ryan Meili, spokesman for Canadian Doctors for Medicare.

Until recently, at least, Day’s Cambie Surgery Centre in Vancouver charged both the provincial government and patients themselves for some medical services, the Saskatchewan physician noted.

“The sort of Robin Hood that he presents himself as is pretty false,” said Meili. “The money is not being taken from the wealthy and going to the poor. It’s going to him, and it’s going to him from two sources.”

Like the man or not, though, Day is definitely a vivid character in the otherwise monochrome world of health policy in Canada.

Growing up in Liverpool, he attended the same school – even rode the same bus – as the older Paul McCartney and George Harrison, and later took in early Beatles shows at the Cavern club.

His youth was also touched by tragedy: his pharmacist father was murdered by burglars.

After medical school in Britain, he decided to spend a year of orthopedic-surgery training at the University of British Columbia, then return, but ended up staying, “falling in love” with Vancouver.

He was not genetically predisposed to free-enterprise health-care solutions, calling his parents “socialists.” But Day says that by the late 1980s, the combination of the Canada Health Act’s requirement that everyone have equal access to taxpayer-funded care, plus a growing list of expensive services available under that umbrella, started to spawn long wait lists and strained budgets.

“We in Canada will give the same level of services to a wealthy person as to person who isn’t wealthy, and that doesn’t make sense.”

Then in 1996, he started Cambie Surgery Centre, which now provides orthopedic, eye, plastic and other operations, most of the medically necessary work done for workers’ compensation board clients.

The patients who pay out of pocket for services covered under medicare – those who are the focus of the court case – make up about 10 per cent, Day says.

As a leader of orthopedics associations, he has also traveled widely, even spending a marathon evening with Fidel Castro during a training mission to Cuba.

Day is fond of saying that Canada is the only country in the world that bans its citizens from paying for medicare-covered services privately. Indeed, top Chinese officials recently asked him to consult on projects to build private hospitals in the communist-run state, an offer he declined, Day said this week.

In the meantime, he has not been shy in voicing his opinions, once spending a year as president of the Canadian Medical Association.

Day probably owes the people of B.C. an apology, because it’s probably him being so vocal that has forced the hand of the government
Whether by coincidence or not, his province is the only one in recent years to be fined by the federal government for allowing doctors to charge patients fees in violation of the Canada Health Act., though Quebec has arguably moved much further into private medicine

“Day probably owes the people of B.C. an apology, because it’s probably him being so vocal that has forced the hand of the government,” said Meili.

It all raises the question of what would drive a successful orthopedic surgeon and businessman to devote so much of his life, career and income to rowing against the prevailing currents of Canadian health care, to tilting at its most sacred cows.

Day said Cambie was remortgaged for $1 million to help pay for the court battle that has meandered along for almost eight years. Police are investigating threats he said he would rather not discuss publicly.

As to motive, the surgeon cites his conviction that there is a better way to deliver health care in Canada, but also the instincts that once fed his pugilistic career.

“I was brought up playing soccer — originally boxing, then soccer,” says Day. “If you’re competitive and you think you’re right, you want to keep going until there’s a final outcome.”

never happy posted:

O&G producers can spend 0% on equipment. It's not atypical for a companies assets to only consist of their reserves and wells (sometimes not even wells). You would even have foreign companies, with offices in Calgary, hiring contractors (sometimes foreign, likely ones with existing relationships in their home country) to drill wells. Please explain to me how Canadians are getting any value out of that....

never happy posted:

That's not true at all. the GHG emissions profile is relatively same as the average barrel of oil produced today. Considering there is almost not more conventionally oil reserves in Canada/US it's not saying much. How dense do you have to be to think that a barrel of oil sands would be just as intensive as conventional oil? loving bizarre.
And there's a lot more considerations when it comes to mining, they are incredibly locally destructive. And even that metrics that they likely used to get those GHG emmisions are likely bullshit. It would be interesting if they considered facilities, pipelines and reclamation.

linoleum floors posted:

im glad the spokesman for suncor has decided to join the thread

El Scotch posted:

I can't wait to be free of the shackles of medicare.

Inside the nearly eight-year long fight of Brian Day, the doctor who would free Canadians from medicare

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“We in Canada will give the same level of services to a wealthy person as to person who isn’t wealthy, and that doesn’t make sense.” 

Fluffy Chainsaw posted:

They do. On a well-to-wheels lifecycle basis, Kearl is on par with the average crude refined in the United States.

A study published in 2010 by Colorado-based industry analysis firm IHS Inc. estimated the life-cycle greenhouse gas emissions of refined crude produced from a mining and diluted bitumen process (such as Kearl) would be no higher than the average emissions produced from crude processed in the United States at the time. In fact, the study found using such a process would generate 4% less emissions than Venezuelan crude.


Heaven forbid someone challenge this thread's groupthink with actual facts and figures.

E: posting precoffee is hard

Fluffy Chainsaw posted:

Except that as is clearly demonstrated by facts, they didn't. They spent close to $6b on manufactured products made in Canada. Are you similarly against auto sector manufacturing?

E: precoffee posting still difficult

never happy posted:

Read what I said. More than half of United States oil production is UNCONVENTIONAL. Of course the Kearl project is going to look good because it's being compared to poo poo. And it just shows the lengths the producers and rags like FP would go to make the project look better than it is. They purposely omit the fact that the average barrel of crude produced today is far more intensive than in the past. Try finding something that compares Kearl to CONVENTIONAL CRUDE. You won't. Because it will look like poo poo.

never happy posted:

get your coffee and read my post again. You're not getting it

Fluffy Chainsaw posted:

According to the EIA's U.S. Energy Information Administration / Monthly Energy Review August 2016, emissions from petroleum in the US are the same now as they were in 1970.

Unconventional in the US is shale oil, which has the same emissions profile as conventional production:

"The U.S. Department of Energy's Argonne National Laboratory this week released a pair of studies on the efficiency of shale oil production excavation. The reports show that shale oil production generates greenhouse gas emissions at levels similar to traditional crude oil production."

http://www.anl.gov/articles/analysis-shows-greenhouse-gas-emissions-similar-shale-crude-oil

The comparison is valid, and positive.

quote:

You seem to be saying that O&G is bad because it doesn't result in any benefits for the manufacturing sector. The statscan numbers I posted show that the oil sands and the automotive sector are comparable with respect to upstream manufacturing (eg parts and capital equipment). I am not sure what your concern is.

never happy posted:

There's also heavy oil. And not a chance that report is accurate. they are using numbers from 2009-2013. Incredibly highly productive, and considering how new the play is, they can easily use the industries very optimistic declines and anticipate more reserves than they will actually produce.


My issue is that producers can get away without providing ANY benefit to Canada. A foreign producer drills using foreign contractors. They produce, pay taxes, those taxes are then squandered by a heavily lobbied poo poo government, and then ditch any reclamation. I'd agree that the oil sands wouldn't so bad, unfortunately they're incredibly destructive and take away from other manufacturing sectors.

never happy posted:

There's also heavy oil. And not a chance that report is accurate. they are using numbers from 2009-2013. Incredibly highly productive, and considering how new the play is, they can easily use the industries very optimistic declines and anticipate more reserves than they will actually produce.

never happy posted:

My issue is that producers can get away without providing ANY benefit to Canada. A foreign producer drills using foreign contractors. They produce, pay taxes, those taxes are then squandered by a heavily lobbied poo poo government, and then ditch any reclamation. I'd agree that the oil sands wouldn't so bad, unfortunately they're incredibly destructive and take away from other manufacturing sectors.

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Working as a bike courier wasn’t exactly what Elie Waitzer had in mind when he graduated from McGill University in 2016 with an economics degree.

“I don’t think I was expecting to get my dream job right out of university, but it’s been a little tougher than expected,” he said, to land a job in his field.

It’s a problem a lot of recent graduates are facing, navigating a job market seemingly immune to their four-year undergraduate degrees.

“It was never expected that I would submit my certificate and get a free job in return. I know it takes time,” said Mr. Waitzer, who also works at a pizza shop and does volunteer work.

...

Vancouver home sales plunge for second straight month in wake of new foreign-buyer tax posted:

It’s too early to say for sure what long-term impact a new tax on foreign buyers has had on Canada’s most expensive city for housing.

That seemed to be the general consensus after August sales figures, released Friday by the Real Estate Board of Greater Vancouver, showed sales had dropped 22.8 per cent from July alone.

“Sales have been waning from record levels on a seasonally-adjusted basis since February. We’ve been on a moderating trend and it’s been accelerated by the 15 per cent foreign-buyer tax,” said Cameron Muir, chief economist with the British Columbia Real Estate Association. “We’re going to need a few months to see what impact this will have on the market.”

Brannock posted:

Hey CI

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/graduates-face-an-unwelcoming-job-market-when-they-get-out-of-school/article31703528/

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Kellie Leitch, the Conservative MP and candidate for her party’s leadership, caused a stir last week when she e-mailed supporters with a questionnaire that asked them, among other things, whether the federal government should screen potential immigrants for “anti-Canadian values.”

Ms. Leitch was duly criticized, but she didn’t back down. “Screening potential immigrants for anti-Canadian values that include intolerance towards other religions, cultures and sexual orientations, violent and/or misogynist behaviour and/or a lack of acceptance of our Canadian tradition of personal and economic freedoms is a policy proposal that I feel very strongly about,” she said Friday.

It’s now clear that Ms. Leitch is all too happy to play identity politics. This is the same person who, as minister for the Status of Women during the federal election campaign last year, announced the creation of a tip line for people to report “barbaric cultural practices.” She later claimed she was misunderstood. She wasn’t. It’s clearly her practice to sell policies that raise fears of Muslim immigrants based on inaccurate stereotypes about their culture and beliefs.

There are two kinds of politicians today: those who exploit tensions created by immigration and terrorism to gain power; and those who recognize the tensions, and look for solutions. Donald Trump is in the former camp. Ms. Leitch apparently wants to join him. For the good of our country, Conservatives must reject this.

The suggestion that there are government-defined “Canadian values” is frightening. In this country, new citizens swear an oath to “faithfully observe the laws of Canada and fulfill [their] duties as a Canadian citizen.” There are no prescribed religious or cultural beliefs, just a vow to respect our constitution and our laws, and to accept the consequences of failing to do so.

What Ms. Leitch is toying with – a government that tells people what to believe and how to think – is itself anti-Canadian. Yes, Canadians have values. No, the state doesn’t get to tell you what Canadian values are.

namaste faggots posted:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/who-gets-to-decide-what-canadian-values-are/article31696963/


what's this bitch's problem lmao

namaste faggots posted:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/who-gets-to-decide-what-canadian-values-are/article31696963/


what's this bitch's problem lmao

Whiskey Sours posted:

She's a doctor, so probably autism.

Remember Chris Alexander? Whatever happened to him?

vyelkin posted:

Torpedoed his own career on live TV and then lost his seat in the Red Wedding.

Chris Alexander posted:

“We’re still the party that sees reality as it is, doesn’t want to go on some hippy-trippy jaunt down memory lane and put marijuana in the windows of every store,”

“We’re trying to deal with the real issues that Canadians are facing. And we’ll continue to do that.”

“I spent two weeks being called a baby-killer by other MPs and by people in the media. That was not pleasant.”

namaste faggots posted:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/alberta-ndp-changes-campaign-rules-with-cunning-new-spending-strategy/article31700341/


raaaaarr notley crue the most virtuous and ethical of leftists in this country

they should get sarah hoffman to jump out of a cake and

oh lol

Pfox posted:

What about a company paying taxes is bad?

namaste faggots posted:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/who-gets-to-decide-what-canadian-values-are/article31696963/


what's this bitch's problem lmao

Fluffy Chainsaw posted:

Things are likely to get worse before they get better:

http://business.financialpost.com/p...reign-buyer-tax

infernal machines posted:

quote:

Liberals open to lowering threshold to foreign investors to spur Chinese investment in oilsands

As Prime Minister Justin Trudeau finishes his visit to China to try to deepen trade ties, the Liberals are sending a strong signal that they are open to rolling back the thresholds on foreign investment the Harper government set up in 2014.

"It’s something we would consider amongst a number of different things," David Lametti, parliamentary secretary to the Minister of International Trade, said on CTV's Question Period with Evan Solomon.

Lametti says Canada needs to rebuild a relationship with China, and then begin to focus on trade deals and “consider investment or the attempt to attract investment.”

After the Harper government approved the 2012 sale of the Calgary-based oilsands company Nexen to China’s state-owned enterprise China National Offshore Oil Corporation for $15 billion, they made an about-face by imposing tougher investment laws.

"When we say that Canada is open for business, we do not mean that Canada is for sale to foreign governments,” Harper said at the time. He argued that state-owned companies buying up Canadian companies were not a "net benefit" to Canada.

Now, after Chinese investment dried up and the price of oil collapsed, the Liberals appear open to reversing course. That has opposition members very concerned, especially as Trudeau is in China promising to deepen trade.

“Looking at that option seems to (bring up) the question of sovereignty again,” NDP MP Nathan Cullen said on Question Period. Cullen was also critical of the Liberals’ approach to discussing pipelines with China. “It almost seems like pipeline blackmail. If we want to have any trade with China, we might have to do something Canadian’s might not want.”

Lametti said the government has not formally explored this possibility of increasing the thresholds on foreign investment but would consider all proposals that might enhance trade.

Helsing posted:

Sunday afternoon of the Labour Day weekend, I'm relaxing on a dock by the water and enjoying my life of waspy old stock Canadian privilege, when my sense of peace with the universe is shattered by the sounds of someone a few properties away blasting Nickelback from their dock, reminding me that I am still surrounded by my fellow Canadians.

vyelkin posted:

tbf if he didn't want to be called a baby-killer he probably shouldn't have killed that baby

Helsing posted:

Sunday afternoon of the Labour Day weekend, I'm relaxing on a dock by the water and enjoying my life of waspy old stock Canadian privilege, when my sense of peace with the universe is shattered by the sounds of someone a few properties away blasting Nickelback from their dock, reminding me that I am still surrounded by my fellow Canadians.

OSI bean dip posted:

or Matt Good

namaste faggots posted:

or some jan arden