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Are there separate ammo drops for weapons, or does each drop refill all held guns?
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Sep 6, 2016 17:45
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There are separate drops for each ammo type
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Sep 6, 2016 18:43
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This is best demonstrated by using the chainsaw and then opening up with a rapid fire weapon. You'll stop picking ammo up, quickly, but there's still more around you.
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Sep 6, 2016 18:55
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Alexeythegreat posted:There are separate drops for each ammo type Some guns share ammo types, however.
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Sep 6, 2016 20:44
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I also have to admit, I actually found the vacuum rune pretty useful. It guarantees that you get the maximum out of each glory kill or chainsaw kill, rather than missing something if you back off or strafe after making the kill, rather than dashing forwards. Then again, it may not be the optimal choice.
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Sep 6, 2016 21:07
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Its useful for bosses because the resources they shed now and then tend to require you to get real close to them to pick up.
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Sep 6, 2016 22:10
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GunnerJ posted:Its useful for bosses because the resources they shed now and then tend to require you to get real close to them to pick up. True, but if they drop resources, they're also staggered, and there's enough time, in my experience, to get enough ammo to keep on fighting.
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Sep 7, 2016 07:59
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The other question for me was "What else would be useful?" I tended to use a lot of glory-kill related runes in normal gameplay so in a context where that doesn't matter (and I never picked up on any pro-game-breaking combos) I just shrugged and picked what seemed OK. There were probably better choices.
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Sep 7, 2016 14:32
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GunnerJ posted:There were probably better choices. There are. Rich Get Richer and the one that gives Armor on Glory Kills. Then Siege Mode.
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Sep 7, 2016 15:53
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Kurieg posted:There are. Rich Get Richer and the one that gives Armor on Glory Kills. Then Siege Mode. Okay, about this, even though this is still very far away. Once I get to that point further down the line, I will show how this particular combination of runes breaks the game in conjunction with the Siege Mode, the Stationary Turret, and maybe the Missile Launcher, but don't expect me to use it all the time, I want some form of a challenge. And I sure as Hell won't be abusing it against the bosses. 
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Sep 7, 2016 17:23
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It's time.      
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Sep 9, 2016 23:13
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Mai waifu  But seriously though, this gun is the best reason to focus as many upgrades as you can on ammo (or armour, if you can get the relevant rune)- the longer you keep this firing, the better the game gets. 
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Sep 9, 2016 23:37
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A bit late on this, but I just want to say that I love that DoomGuy's solution to "shut down the power" is to just break the drat things. "When all you have is a hammer" and all that. Also, Mr. Stupid-Robot-Face, I don't care that you "solved" a huge energy crisis - the fact that said energy is literally coming from Hell (and is probably a good part of why your facility is being overrun by demons right now) kind of out-weighs any benefits. I mean, seriously, how stupid do you have to be for "let's drain energy from Hell" to sound like a good idea?
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Sep 10, 2016 00:27
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Oh man I know at least half a dozen people who would flip at you calling the micro missiles useless.
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Sep 10, 2016 01:18
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TBH, I never thought the SSG was all that awesome until I got it fully upgraded.
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Sep 10, 2016 02:01
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Apep727 posted:A bit late on this, but I just want to say that I love that DoomGuy's solution to "shut down the power" is to just break the drat things. "When all you have is a hammer" and all that. It was safe! *doom guy looks around facility full of dead guys, demons, and a whopping 3 survivors, two of which were digital/robotic and the last of which is a demon pawn* GunnerJ posted:TBH, I never thought the SSG was all that awesome until I got it fully upgraded. It's initial state is a little lackluster, but once it gets rolling the fun doesn't stop cokerpilot posted:Oh man I know at least half a dozen people who would flip at you calling the micro missiles useless. At the very least they're a really good mix with quad damage for an early/mid game everything dies button. Plus 
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Sep 10, 2016 02:05
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FoolyCharged posted:It's initial state is a little lackluster, but once it gets rolling the fun doesn't stop Yeah. It's a solid upgrade from the regular shotgun that gets better with each upgrade. For me though it never really shined until that last one.
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Sep 10, 2016 02:15
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Now isn't the time to go after english Alexey. We need to maintain a united front against the true enemy, non-Indo-European languages. It's a shame the Super Shotgun doesn't get multiple mods the other guns.
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Sep 10, 2016 07:01
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It's obvious as to why you're so angry at the start; yer simply channelling Doomguy.
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Sep 10, 2016 08:07
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I think my only issue with the super shotgun is how it makes the normal shotgun basically pointless(and the fact that the super shotgun conveys unwarranted feelings of immortality and omnipotence, making you take stupid risks... okay, that's not so much a downside as a really fun thing. Why carefully take out that Hell Knight if instead I can double jump over it while firing my super shotgun down at its head?). At least it did for me, I never went back and used it or its mods at all afterwards. It would've been nice if the SSG was an upgrade instead, so you could've used the same weapon mods for it without needing to swap down. None of the other weapons quite make their predecessor meaningless in the same way, mostly because the closest thing you have to a straight upgrade on one weapon to another is the heavy rifle to the chaingun. Though oddly enough I never really used the chaingun much.
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Sep 10, 2016 08:24
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PurpleXVI posted:I think my only issue with the super shotgun is how it makes the normal shotgun basically pointless(and the fact that the super shotgun conveys unwarranted feelings of immortality and omnipotence, making you take stupid risks... okay, that's not so much a downside as a really fun thing. Why carefully take out that Hell Knight if instead I can double jump over it while firing my super shotgun down at its head?). At least it did for me, I never went back and used it or its mods at all afterwards. It would've been nice if the SSG was an upgrade instead, so you could've used the same weapon mods for it without needing to swap down. The shotgun's grenade launcher is still useful. Good AOE damage at a low resource cost, delivered quick. It does make the triple shot useless, but eh. Never really a fan of it in the first place.
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Sep 10, 2016 08:58
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Apep727 posted:I mean, seriously, how stupid do you have to be for "let's drain energy from Hell" to sound like a good idea? I like the way he mentions it took decades to sell humanity on the concept. Presumably the human race in general thought this was a loving stupid idea too.
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Sep 10, 2016 09:26
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FoolyCharged posted:It was safe! Much has been said about how the non-verbal Doomguy manages to say so much with just hand gestures and head movements, but I think this was one of the better scenes. As soon as Hayden goes on his 'this was all for humanity' shtick, Doomguy pauses- maybe the guy has a point? But then he looks at the massive helltower spewing infernal energies, and decides 'gently caress it, humanity can find another way'. Better another Dark Age- at least it's a future, and the Doomguy knows all too well what happens to worlds that let Hell break loose.
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Sep 10, 2016 09:30
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PurpleXVI posted:I think my only issue with the super shotgun is how it makes the normal shotgun basically pointless(and the fact that the super shotgun conveys unwarranted feelings of immortality and omnipotence, making you take stupid risks... okay, that's not so much a downside as a really fun thing. Why carefully take out that Hell Knight if instead I can double jump over it while firing my super shotgun down at its head?). At least it did for me, I never went back and used it or its mods at all afterwards. It would've been nice if the SSG was an upgrade instead, so you could've used the same weapon mods for it without needing to swap down. Actually, I use the regular shotgun as the go-to weapon for quad damage, because of its slightly faster rate of fire and much lower spread. So, for me, the Plamsa Rifle is made a lot more obsolete by the Railg... Gauss Cannon than the shotgun is by its Super counterpart. My fights starting with mission 6 literally go as such: 1) Use the Gauss Cannon until it's out of ammo, 2) Use SSG until it's out of ammo, 3) use whatever to clean up the remaining demons. chiasaur11 posted:The shotgun's grenade launcher is still useful. Good AOE damage at a low resource cost, delivered quick. But you only get to that once you've run out of SSG ammo, which the grenade launcher also uses CommissarMega posted:Much has been said about how the non-verbal Doomguy manages to say so much with just hand gestures and head movements, but I think this was one of the better scenes. As soon as Hayden goes on his 'this was all for humanity' shtick, Doomguy pauses- maybe the guy has a point? But then he looks at the massive helltower spewing infernal energies, and decides 'gently caress it, humanity can find another way'. Better another Dark Age- at least it's a future, and the Doomguy knows all too well what happens to worlds that let Hell break loose. I don't know if they wanted the Doomguy to be the player's avatar, but if they have, they've failed spectacularly, and I'm glad they did!
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Sep 10, 2016 12:45
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Alexeythegreat posted:I don't know if they wanted the Doomguy to be the player's avatar, but if they have, they've failed spectacularly, and I'm glad they did! I can agree with that; his whole  approach is definitely what sold me on this in from the very first video.Also, how much longer is the game? Every video has me more and more interested in buying it. Also, for those on console, how does it play on PS4? If it's a terrible mess I'll probably have to give it a miss (crappy computer), but my interest is definitely piqued. This is an acceptable/preferable reason for just about anything in this type of game. We always need more in action games (the Marlow Briggs postulate).
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Sep 10, 2016 15:27
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azren posted:Also, how much longer is the game? I think Alexy is... a third of the way through, I wanna say.
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Sep 10, 2016 15:35
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GunnerJ posted:I think Alexy is... a third of the way through, I wanna say. Okay, that's pretty good. Another bit of praise I forgot to give the game is how much I love the little touches; the way the Doomguy just pulls these heavy security doors open and some of the glory kills give a wonderful sense of power for the character/armor, and I'm infinitely pleased by the little "impact compensation" notification at the bottom of the screen when you fall from a height. It's like the game is telling you "nah, don't worry about falling damage, that's stupid and would get in the way of your ripping and tearing!"
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Sep 10, 2016 15:40
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It's strange that this is one of the few games where I actually feel like someone in a heavy power-assisted suit with great strength and armour.
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Sep 10, 2016 15:56
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azren posted:I can agree with that; his whole As GunnerJ said, the LP is about a third of the way into the game. A bit less, actually. As for PS4, I hear (cannot confirm or deny) that it works just fine on consoles. I'm pretty sure FadingVoid did his LP on a console.
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Sep 10, 2016 17:46
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Alexeythegreat posted:As for PS4, I hear (cannot confirm or deny) that it works just fine on consoles. I'm pretty sure FadingVoid did his LP on a console. As I recall FadingVoid's LP was actually on the PC, but the clacking of his keyboard and/or mouse were so loud, he switched to a gamepad.
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Sep 10, 2016 18:12
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Yeah, sold. Chalk up a purchase thanks to this lp.
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Sep 10, 2016 21:32
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azren posted:Yeah, sold. Chalk up a purchase thanks to this lp. Doom... Is good...
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Sep 11, 2016 01:43
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sebmojo posted:Doom... Is good... Always bet on Doom.
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Sep 11, 2016 04:56
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azren posted:Yeah, sold. Chalk up a purchase thanks to this lp. I call that a win! Klaus88 posted:Always bet on Doom. As long as it's not Doom 3, which is... an acquired taste.
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Sep 11, 2016 13:10
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Digital Foundry is always a good bet if you need to find out how a game runs on your platform of choice. I posted their Doom analysis here but that has too many spoilers so just look it up on youtube, but the gist is that the game runs well and looks good on consoles.
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Sep 11, 2016 14:11
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Oh, by the way. Another praise that I didn't think of until just now is how great it is that Doom was not developed for consoles and ported to PC, but was developed clearly for PC first and foremost. Not to say that all ports suck (Mankind Divided is a great port, for example), but still, that's how FPS should be made in the first place!
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Sep 11, 2016 14:31
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   ...performing EFN maneuvers around vertical drops or overhead obstacles.     
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Sep 13, 2016 15:42
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So basically you stopped them from fracking Hell, so now she's trying to enact Project Oilsand.
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Sep 13, 2016 18:50
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So, humanity doesn't even have the excuse of "we didn't know the energy was coming from Hell" as a defense. I think the human race in this game maybe kinda deserves this. As for the centering the weapons thing, I don't see how it makes aiming harder - you're literally looking down the gun's barrel, just shoot whatever's in front of you. I will admit, though, that most of the guns don't look nearly as good from that angle. It is a nice classic-Doom throw-back, though.
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Well, what would a cult dedicated to going to hell BE if not filled with masochists? Also, drat those imps give those fireballs some giddyup.
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