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Divine Blob
Mar 13, 2013

Landsknecht posted:

If CCP would be willing to cede a share of the company i'd invest 1k or so (as part of a large chunk) if it meant that there would be some say in stopping them from idiotic projects like vampires online

IMO a lot of smaller games companies could do well if they'd offer to sell 25% or so of voting shares to players in blocks of $1k or so

that sounds nice but i guess that could be abused too

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1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
uninstall this game

Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


avatarinwin posted:

uninstall this game

Thank you globby, I just did purely based on the recommendation in your post. If nobody had posted this, I'd still have EVE Online, a bad game, installed taking up valuable SSD space.

Thank you.

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE

Otacon posted:

Thank you globby, I just did purely based on the recommendation in your post. If nobody had posted this, I'd still have EVE Online, a bad game, installed taking up valuable SSD space.

Thank you.

no problem friend.

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
also my name is no longer globby, as that toonie belongs to warr akini. you may call me "avatarinwin", or "uninstall this game" from now on.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
Wow, so. I was going to comment on how dead the thread has been since Sunday? And now it's picked up just to beat a dead horse (Star Citizen).

What's funny is that you feel superior right now in this thread?

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Yeah pretty much

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

Tokyo Sexwhale posted:

Think about the fact that you are defending star citizen right now

I've never played it, but I recognize that straws are being grasped so people can feel better. This thread went from alpha clones, to expecting the new launcher to break, to rehashing Star Citizen drama.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
avatarinwin how much do you regret letting go of globby right before the free to play announcement

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
I would quote "uninstall this game" but you don't have to anymore since you can just let your sub lapse. Just because you hosed up don't try to get us to quit too

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE

Elsa posted:

avatarinwin how much do you regret letting go of globby right before the free to play announcement

none at all because this means that i have still won eve

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE

Elsa posted:

Just because you hosed up don't try to get us to quit too

lol

Syndic Thrass
Nov 10, 2011
Ambien strikes again!

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before

ullerrm posted:

Securities trading lol

Avoiding the various legal mandates around investment is the very reason that Kickstarter exists in the first place.

Honestly, every time a business has ever closed down in your hometown, there's some kind of private investor (and/or local bank) who helped get that business started and then got nothing for it. Kickstarter gives the average person the opportunity to feel such disappointment, an opportunity previously limited to the moneyed~

Spaceship jpegs are the new junk bonds

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
mmm nno yeah I have way too much work to finish to be tripping balls on ambien, for the foreseeable future.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
Did I mention I'm back in school for a BFA in 3D Animation and Game Design

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
*makes an ambien joke*

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
I can't tell you how prepared I feel for toxic basement dwellers in the industry

T-T-T-T-Triple Post post post

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
goddammit dude

Magic Rabbit Hat
Nov 4, 2006

Just follow along if you don't wanna get neutered.

Elsa posted:

Did I mention I'm back in school for a BFA in 3D Animation and Game Design

I look forward to your SFM porn Patreon.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

Magic Rabbit Hat posted:

I look forward to your SFM porn Patreon.

haaaa Source Porn Maker. There was a freshman who wanted to "talk shop" with one of the professors about it.

Next thing I wanted to hear about was his sick workflow from DAZ

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

dialhforhero posted:

Ah yes. All we need now are not just entitled pubbies with bad opinions who merely think they have a say on game design, but entitled pubbies with bad opinions who actually do have a say in bad game design.

We already have that. Have you ever heard of the CSM?

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Elsa posted:

mmm nno yeah I have way too much work to finish to be tripping balls on ambien, for the foreseeable future.



I really would've thought your mercenary entosis business would've made you far too busy to continue sexualizing childrens cartoons, and definitely to keep lowering the standards on this thread, what gives, nobody wanted to hire you exactly like everyone this thread said?

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
lol

Baculus
Oct 25, 2007

I DID A BIG CACA IN MY DRUG STORE DIAPER
Guys how dare you mention something not EVE related in the EVE thread full of 10 page derails about sous vide and stupid poo poo.

Baculus
Oct 25, 2007

I DID A BIG CACA IN MY DRUG STORE DIAPER
Did you know that prolonged (ab)use of zolpidem tartrate (Ambien) can cause persistent psychosis and neurological dysfunction on par with amphetamines?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4354222/

Naturally, this comes as no surprise to anyone who's been paying attention.

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

Baculus posted:

Did you know that prolonged (ab)use of zolpidem tartrate (Ambien) can cause persistent psychosis and neurological dysfunction on par with amphetamines?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4354222/

Naturally, this comes as no surprise to anyone who's been paying attention.

based upon a trial size of 1 I've come to the same conclusion. Unfortunately the control group also showed signs of severe psychosis as well.

Baculus
Oct 25, 2007

I DID A BIG CACA IN MY DRUG STORE DIAPER
Were your sample and control groups both drawn from the collective pool of EVE players?

I think there might be an unexplored correlation.

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

hello i would like to return to last page's topic please



kickstarter is both Good and Cool because it allows people who normally have 0 (zero) chance of getting any manner of substantial investment to raise capital for projects that the people providing the capital want

Gift/Reward-based crowdfunding (kickstarter, indiegogo) operates with the explicit assumption that you are taking on a high risk of not recouping your costs when you donate. That is why the donation amounts tend to be so small - you are spreading out the net financial risk across a large number of people who are not likely to be severely financially impacted when it goes south.

If you want a guaranteed ROI, buy some loving bonds. Kickstarter fills an important niche because it not only allows people to raise capital, it allows them to demonstrate interest so that proper investors feel more confident in providing VC

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

except there is literally zero legal oversight

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



I backed a board game about whaling on Kickstarter and recieved my items
They were delayed by 6 months but I still got it.

Still haven't played the game yet...

This is my Kickstarter backing story

ploots
Mar 19, 2010
I backed a thing and now bill nye won't stop sending me emails. kickstarter is bad.

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

I back kickstarter in the sense that I enjoy the stupid drama that comes out of it.

Speaking of which, what happened to redoing that book that people got emotionally charged about? I quite liked that one the first time around.

Siets
Sep 19, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Say what you will about Star Citizen, that Alpha 3 demo at Gamescom was legitimately impressive. I say this as somebody who has done nothing but :rolleye: at the entire project for the past four years.

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

ChickenWing posted:

kickstarter is both Good and Cool because it allows people who normally have 0 (zero) chance of getting any manner of substantial investment to raise capital for projects that the people providing the capital want

Kickstarter is now being used as an excuse to push off the costs of doing something onto someone else and it's starting to get frustrating. The guys who made the shadowrun game put out a good product for the kickstarter. But now they've moved on to another property and instead of re-investing the gains of the previous project to put out yet another good game they have kickstarted again.

It's basically risk free business and it's stupid as gently caress and it's really playing out hard with star citizen. Chris Roberts if he was answerable to a real company full of adults would have been raked over the coals by now.

Fishvilla
Apr 11, 2011

THE SHAGMISTRESS






Don't back what you can't afford to lose.

Maneck
Sep 11, 2011

Reverand maynard posted:

except there is literally zero legal oversight

Avoiding legal oversight is the only reason Kickstarter et all exist. They avoid the ambit of securities commissions because people depart with their money up front, and will never be getting it back.

There does need to be a change as far as the refund policy goes. Specifically, it should be abolished entirely. It is dumb and unenforceable. Its existence results in the mixed message that money might somehow come back.

As to your call to regulation, what do you propose? How do you fix broke brains who will throw away their live savings so they can feel like a big shot in the community dedicated to a non-game?

Divine Blob
Mar 13, 2013
i got some good stuff through kickstarter, for example, a tank dating sim

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
dumbs should be parted from their money, in game.

Divine Blob posted:

i got some good stuff through kickstarter, for example, a tank dating sim

thank you for this, I played this game without paying for it!

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Divine Blob
Mar 13, 2013

avatarinwin posted:

dumbs should be parted from their money, in game.


thank you for this, I played this game without paying for it!

did you actually play the game? which tank did u date

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