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Left Ventricle posted:Um, I think Chevrolet offers a diesel in the Cruze. Or they did. I don't know about the current generation. They did, it was for 2 model years I believe (in the US anyway). And it was only available in what was essentially a LTZ - loving loaded, and automatic only. They only built a handful of them for the US market. There's rumors about it coming back later in the 2017 model year. But to be fair, the turbo 1.4 (gasoline) is supposed to nail 40 mpg, and the diesel is rumored to have about the same hp (but of course a lot more torque). Rumors are putting it around 45-48 mpg highway. It'd be nice if they would offer it in lower trim levels; if I'm buying a diesel, it's because I care about mileage, not if I care about rear end warmers and coolers built into the seats.
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The Cruze diesel was awful, my work has one of those for doing on site work/going to meetings. The other car, a Focus diesel (which I brought from my workplace) was a far better car.
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In all honesty, the fact the Cruze diesel is terrible is less a diesel issue and more a Cruze issue...
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Sep 7, 2016 12:36
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If the only cars you can get a diesel in are lovely, you will very quickly learn that a diesel engine means a lovely car.
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Sep 7, 2016 17:14
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Midjack posted:If the only cars you can get a diesel in are lovely, you will very quickly learn that a diesel engine means a lovely car. Which is why VW are such assholes. Their diesel offerings were so loving tempting.  I was actually on the verge of buying one in 2013.
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Sep 7, 2016 17:35
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xzzy posted:Which is why VW are such assholes. Their diesel offerings were so loving tempting. They still are really fun cars to drive. Which is why the VW American CEO saying TDI is dead is really the final nail in the betrayal that was their loving cheat.
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Sep 7, 2016 18:23
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Isn't that because the emissions fix isn't in yet? Once that recall goes out and everyone's sporty TDI suddenly loses a percentage of its output those cars are going to be miserable. I can't imagine it will work like a normal recall either, where you can just ignore it if you want to. Any TDI without the fix is going to be an instant failure on an I/M check.
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Sep 7, 2016 18:30
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xzzy posted:Isn't that because the emissions fix isn't in yet? Once that recall goes out and everyone's sporty TDI suddenly loses a percentage of its output those cars are going to be miserable. the EPA's goal is to get the cars off the road. they are hoping the generous cash on the buyback will dissuade most owners from keeping the cars and waiting for a fix.
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Sep 7, 2016 18:58
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xzzy posted:Isn't that because the emissions fix isn't in yet? Once that recall goes out and everyone's sporty TDI suddenly loses a percentage of its output those cars are going to be miserable. I'm not getting mine messed with in any way. God bless Florida and its complete lack of emissions checks.
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Sep 7, 2016 19:07
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sleepy.eyes posted:I'm not getting mine messed with in any way. God bless Florida and its complete lack of emissions checks. And for that pleasure, Florida will be the first to suffer the wrath of Climate Change.
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Sep 7, 2016 19:31
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CommieGIR posted:And for that pleasure, Florida will be the first to suffer the wrath of Climate Change. The best part is that even building a sea wall around the state wouldn’t work. Florida is too porous. The water would effortlessly seep through the limestone.
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Sep 7, 2016 21:46
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CommieGIR posted:And for that pleasure, Florida will be the first to suffer the wrath of Climate Change. The whole south, actually. which is ironic as all gently caress given the mentality of the locals there.
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Sep 7, 2016 21:47
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The only bad part about losing Florida to the ocean is that when pictures of North America come up and that peninsula isn't there it's gonna make me very uneasy, but only because it looks different.
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Sep 7, 2016 21:47
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The main area affected by global warming doesn't believe in it.
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Sep 7, 2016 21:48
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Poetic, ain't it?
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Sep 7, 2016 21:49
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scuz posted:The only bad part about losing Florida to the ocean is that when pictures of North America come up and that peninsula isn't there it's gonna make me very uneasy, but only because it looks different. Don't worry, you won't be alive to see it actually disappear. It would take 40 meters of sea level rise to fully submerge Florida, and estimates put us at something like 60 centimeters by 2100. A fun toy, allowing you destroy Florida as much as you want: http://geology.com/sea-level-rise/florida.shtml
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Sep 7, 2016 21:54
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scuz posted:The only bad part about losing Florida to the ocean is that when pictures of North America come up and that peninsula isn't there it's gonna make me very uneasy, but only because it looks different. Don't forget all the Floridians will have to move somewhere else!
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Sep 7, 2016 22:12
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sleepy.eyes posted:Don't forget all the Floridians will have to move somewhere else! Based on the link I posted, sea level rise will mostly leave Georgia intact so I predict that's where most of them will end up. Don't expect anyone to really notice any difference.
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Sep 7, 2016 22:29
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More mulatto?
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Sep 7, 2016 22:31
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I'm guessing they'll just all take shelter in this diamond-shaped plateau around Gainesville
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Sep 7, 2016 22:34
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That's just where the snowbirds will construct their megalevee and pretend like nothing changed.
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Sep 7, 2016 22:38
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Javid posted:I'm guessing they'll just all take shelter in this diamond-shaped plateau around Gainesville Legend: 1 mm above sea level.
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Sep 7, 2016 22:40
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xzzy posted:Based on the link I posted, sea level rise will mostly leave Georgia intact so I predict that's where most of them will end up. Don't expect anyone to really notice any difference. What's the fastest way to raise the IQ or Florida and Georgia at the same time? Cede Tallahassee!
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Sep 7, 2016 22:44
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scuz posted:The only bad part about losing Florida to the ocean is that when pictures of North America come up and that peninsula isn't there it's gonna make me very uneasy, but only because it looks different.
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Collateral Damage posted:As a space nerd, losing Cape Canaveral is gonna suck too. It will always be Cape Kennedy in my heart.† †Or at the bottom of the sea.
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Javid posted:I'm guessing they'll just all take shelter in this diamond-shaped plateau around Gainesville Future News posted:BREAKING NEWS: IPCC REPORTS "OH FFS, ROLL OUT SOME DIESELS, GIVE IT ANOTHER TENTH OF A DEGREE" scuz posted:The only bad part about losing Florida to the ocean is that when pictures of North America come up and that peninsula isn't there it's gonna make me very uneasy, but only because it looks different. Put the map legend over it, don't cry when your children see you, then it's fine, over in a generation, nbd. Collateral Damage posted:As a space nerd, losing Cape Canaveral is gonna suck too. Just dock Elon Musk's launch boat over it, nbd. Geez, I come across a bit anti-Florida don't it?
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Sep 7, 2016 23:38
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I'm good until 40 meters. Then my house is underwater 
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Beach Bum posted:I'm good until 40 meters. Then my house is underwater Not much of a beach bum anymore, are you?
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Ola posted:Not much of a beach bum anymore, are you? I spend like 90% of my weekends down at the coast on my HobieCat. If it wasn't for my having become accustomed to a regular salary and everything that buys I'm pretty sure I'd just build a driftwood shack in the St George State Park and live off of crabs and snapper for the rest of my life. And die at age 35 from rampant skin cancer.
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Beach Bum posted:I spend like 90% of my weekends down at the coast on my HobieCat. If it wasn't for my having become accustomed to a regular salary and everything that buys I'm pretty sure I'd just build a driftwood shack in the St George State Park and live off of crabs and snapper for the rest of my life. And die at age 35 from rampant skin cancer. Good man. But clearly evidence of the collective, self aware, ice melting monster retreating to higher ground.
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Beach Bum posted:I'm good until 40 meters. Then my house is underwater I'm on Cape Cod, and good until 30m. I'd have beachfront property then...
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Sep 8, 2016 00:40
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I'll have a private island at 13 meters.
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sleepy.eyes posted:I'll have a private island at 13 meters. I'll still be hundreds of miles away from the coast at 60m. Even with the Mississippi Delta moving up to Memphis. Man, Illinois sucks
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Sep 8, 2016 01:05
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I’ll be dead well before +10 m Of old age.
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The Door Frame posted:I'll still be hundreds of miles away from the coast at 60m. Even with the Mississippi Delta moving up to Memphis. Yeah but we have.......poo poo we don't really have anything..... Russell's is a legit BBQ joint to somewhat help offset the suck of Illinois. Other than that and some beautiful architecture we have nothing in this whole state. Cross into any other state and there is at least something beautiful in it.
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SouthsideSaint posted:Yeah but we have.......poo poo we don't really have anything..... Russell's is a legit BBQ joint to somewhat help offset the suck of Illinois. Other than that and some beautiful architecture we have nothing in this whole state. Cross into any other state and there is at least something beautiful in it. You have Chicago, good and bad.
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About all Illinois has is Chicago, and all Chicago has is jobs. Which allows you to make money to go to visit places that are actually interesting. As far as big cities go Chicago isn't the worst of them, it would actually be a very nice downtown if it weren't for the rampant corruption, murder, and bankruptcy. gently caress the burbs though. So many yuppies, please someone drop a nuke on it.
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SouthsideSaint posted:Cross into any other state and there is at least something beautiful in it. As long as you forget Indiana exists.
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Uthor posted:As long as you forget Indiana exists. Hey now. Some of the dunes are still nice and southern Indiana has a few nice quiet towns.
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You Am I posted:The Cruze diesel was awful, my work has one of those for doing on site work/going to meetings. The other car, a Focus diesel (which I brought from my workplace) was a far better car. I had one as a loan car while my Commodore was getting serviced, and hated it. Noisy under load and with normal throttle the transmission seems like it was having a race to get from first to sixth as fast as possible, so when you wanted to accelerate or overtake, the engine lugged while it remembered that it had to downshift.
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