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Stultus Maximus posted:Invasion and occupation of where? I meant Libya, although "occupation" obviously does not apply to Libya. I meant "destabilization," but, you know. Muscle memory. Dead Cosmonaut posted:lol @ people who still believe Iran has ICBMs capable of carrying nukes, let alone a nuclear weapons program Meh, they want to be a threshold state. That's not illegal, and the U.S. and Israel need to not freak out about it, but still. It's a useful deterrence, if Israel's history is any indication.
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Majorian posted:I do. The problem is, you don't seem to get that there was a connection between a poorly-planned out invasion and occupation, and the resulting chaos and civil wars that ensued. In Iraq absolutely since there was at most two whole months of stability after "mission accomplished". In Libya no... or do you not get that there was a year between things being stable in Libya relative to them going through a civil war recently when she stepped down from SoS and the kick off of the second civil war in Libya. You keep grasping at straws trying to tie Libya to Iraq when there is a poo poo load of difference between the two situations... but no keep saying how much you know about the subject. 
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Sep 8, 2016 01:03
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People need to have more faith in Obama's Iran nuclear deal. It's a textbook example of diplomacy gone right.
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Sep 8, 2016 01:05
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Majorian posted:No, but Russians be paranoid. They think it's a prelude to a larger BMD program, aimed at the U.S. asserting strategic supremacy. To be fair... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hGLBA65tZg&t=91s
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A Winner is Jew posted:In Libya no... Then you really don't know what you're talking about. The vacuum created by the U.S. intervention in 2011 led directly to the instability that kept a new effective government from forming, which in turn led to the current state of civil war. This isn't rocket science. The fact that there was a year of relatively low levels of violence does not mean that the civil war did not result from the invasion. I know you really, really don't want to admit this, but it's true. Clinton is partially responsible for this shitshow. Ciaphas posted:well I'm at half mast Quoted for posterity.
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Sep 8, 2016 01:06
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Literally the third question from Matt Lauer was about the emails. 
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Sep 8, 2016 01:06
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:People need to have more faith in Obama's Iran nuclear deal. It's a textbook example of diplomacy gone right.  Yup. It's amazing to think that anybody thought this wouldn't, you know. Just spur another arms race.
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Sep 8, 2016 01:07
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hiddenriverninja posted:Literally the third question from Matt Lauer was about the emails. Is he going to let her talk? Or just just keep bringing up emails?
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Sep 8, 2016 01:07
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Where the gently caress did those glasses come from!? It's like, he wasn't wearing glasses and then, BAM, it's glasses.
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Sep 8, 2016 01:07
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:People need to have more faith in Obama's Iran nuclear deal. It's a textbook example of diplomacy gone right. Would have been more effective earlier, but we probably wanted to tie Iran's hands during the Arab Spring so we whacked them with moderately-facetious sanctions. Which I can't actually say was the wrong realpolitik decision for sure, they've been up to fuckery enough in Syria and Iraq. I have some concerns that the hyperconservative dickbag faction in Iran will successfully torpedo it due to implementation hiccups in restoring Iranian international trade, but those hiccups are... not exactly beyond the US, but not immediately foreseen. Basically, banks and suchlike are pretty leery about dealing with Iran on the grounds that everything might burn down, fall over, and sink into the swamp at a later date. (To massively oversimplify)
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Sep 8, 2016 01:08
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Kill yourself Matt Lauer. loving kill yourself you loser. gently caress OFF ABOUT THE EMAILS
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Sep 8, 2016 01:08
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This is a terrible line of questioning for her no matter how correct she is.
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Sep 8, 2016 01:09
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To her credit I thought Hillary's answer was a perfectly reasonable answer.
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Sep 8, 2016 01:09
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Would have been more effective earlier, but we probably wanted to tie Iran's hands during the Arab Spring so we whacked them with moderately-facetious sanctions. Yeah, that is a concern. Still, I think more than anything, Iran wants to stop being treated as a pariah state (well, okay, besides not getting invaded/bombed the US and Israel). Reneging on the agreement probably wouldn't help in that regard.
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Sep 8, 2016 01:09
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Motherfucker has same haircut as Bram Stoker's Dracula God drat it, the next 20 minutes are going to be about emails.
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Sep 8, 2016 01:10
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Yoshifan823 posted:This is a terrible line of questioning for her no matter how correct she is. So how many non-email questions have we had tonight?
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This town hall is just going to be loving emails emails emails, christ
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Sep 8, 2016 01:10
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Lol this vet with the most planted question Ive heard.
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Sep 8, 2016 01:10
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The Glumslinger posted:So how many non-email questions have we had tonight? We're at 0 right now, and I suspect that number won't go up until after the first commercial break. This will only be worth it if they go as hard on Trump as they are on Hillary.
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Sep 8, 2016 01:11
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The scared pessimist in me keeps me worrying that the stupid loving email thing will somehow lead to her losing the election despite this thread's reassurances because people just won't stop asking about them 
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Sep 8, 2016 01:11
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Relitigating the emails poo poo for the millionth time makes me just want to change the channel
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Yoshifan823 posted:We're at 0 right now, and I suspect that number won't go up until after the first commercial break. They won't
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Sep 8, 2016 01:11
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And now we're on to her Iraq vote. Swell.
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Sep 8, 2016 01:12
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Yoshifan823 posted:We're at 0 right now, and I suspect that number won't go up until after the first commercial break. hey hey hey Lauer asked her what is the most important quality for a commander in chief to have
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Sep 8, 2016 01:12
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Majorian posted:Yeah, that is a concern. Still, I think more than anything, Iran wants to stop being treated as a pariah state (well, okay, besides not getting invaded/bombed the US and Israel). Reneging on the agreement probably wouldn't help in that regard. I'm hoping that even the hyperconservative dickbags bow to practicality in that regard, yeah. I mean, heck, Ahmadinejad was the public point man for hyperconservative dickbaggery and his fall was ultimately because he was sufficiently dickbaggy and impractical that it was imperiling the non- or less-hyperconservative major players' cushy positions.
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Sep 8, 2016 01:13
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hiddenriverninja posted:hey hey hey Lauer asked her what is the most important quality for a commander in chief to have Did he follow up by saying the correct answer is IT skills?
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hiddenriverninja posted:hey hey hey Lauer asked her what is the most important quality for a commander in chief to have True. But still gently caress Matt Lauer.
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Sep 8, 2016 01:13
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Yoshifan823 posted:We're at 0 right now, and I suspect that number won't go up until after the first commercial break. Lol I have a bridge to sell you
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Sep 8, 2016 01:13
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I know this is kinda a hostile venue and all but jfc
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Sep 8, 2016 01:14
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So why wouldn't she, on this Iraq question, just also point out that "oh hey also the reasoning we used to justify our vote at the time were based on the packet of lies fed to Congress by the Bush administration, FYI." Why not bring that up?
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Sep 8, 2016 01:14
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rscott posted:I know this is kinda a hostile venue and all but jfc I can't wait to see how softball Trump's questions are.
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Sep 8, 2016 01:15
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Kilroy posted:So why wouldn't she, on this Iraq question, just also point out that "oh hey also the reasoning we used to justify our vote at the time were based on the packet of lies fed to Congress by the Bush administration, FYI." Why not bring that up? Im guessing endless days of "Hillary still blaiming Bush!" Also it may be that people view her as someone who skirts away from being held responsibility, so she is taking it head on. WampaLord posted:I can't wait to see how softball Trump's questions are. "Mr. Trump, you said you want to end the military sequester. Does this mean you in fact support are troops?"
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WampaLord posted:I can't wait to see how softball Trump's questions are. "So how many days are those generals going to have to get you those plans to defeat ISIS?"
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Oh and also "we're totes not going to wars guys, just need the declaration in order for Saddam to take us seriously about weapon inspections  "Is it just bad optics to bring this up?
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WampaLord posted:I can't wait to see how softball Trump's questions are. Mr. Trump, how are you so awesome and wonderful?
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Hillary I don't think the best response to a "progressive" asking you about your hawkishness is "well there's no difference between me and Trump on hawkishness"
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