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The removal of single player was very transparently a DRM thing but the bullshit reason provided was that computers wouldn't be able to handle it without dedicating gigs to it.
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Yeah, I think it's DRM. This game isn't doing anything NMS doesn't do, and probably has MORE worlds all seeded in a possibly bigger universe with the added burden of letting me be able to land on fully generated moons and planets. I can't think of one thing that would necessitate online play except to validate discoveries or somethin else. And I am currently tethering on an unlimited plan, but i'm about to lose it, i'll be on a burner for a bit and it will be a few weeks before i have cable back. I've reached the point of over-sharing but that's why i'm bitching.
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Paramemetic posted:The removal of single player was very transparently a DRM thing but the bullshit reason provided was that computers wouldn't be able to handle it without dedicating gigs to it. Simcity used this same excuse, but eventually admitted to it being untrue and added  offline single-player. Pretty sure you still had to login through their stupid servers so meh.
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Boogalo posted:Visit the PGS thread, sign up for frogs, join discord, get answers. Those might not all be in the right order. You're getting into the middle of a gamedev forumwar breakdown so this might not be the best place to get real answers for the next couple of days. I want to do this but I'm super casual. Are the frog people casual friendly?
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Sep 8, 2016 06:25
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I jsut realized right now we have NO option for ship transfer, so even a delayed one would be better than zilch. Instant would be better-better, but still.
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In relation to the frogs thing, and in more-than-one-wing private play in general - is there actually a point beyond either carrying people in RES or knowing it's a goon who just blew me up then used thrusters to teabag my wreckage? This is a genuine question, not a sarcastic one. The multiplayer aspect seems a little limited. Can you share missions in wings or anything like that?Yolomon Wayne posted:I jsut realized right now we have NO option for ship transfer, so even a delayed one would be better than zilch. Pfft. We still have module storage to debate, right?
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Sep 8, 2016 09:15
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When you're in a multiplayer instance, everyone will see the same missions, by and large. You can absolutely go and do them together.
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Sep 8, 2016 09:23
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This is what im most excited for. I can then switch between single player and multiplayer lasers without having to screw around on 1-2 seperate weapon-storage-ships!
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Sep 8, 2016 09:29
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I tried Elite out yesterday with just a mouse and keyboard but just couldn't find a decent way to control my ship. What are other people's experience with M&K? Is it better to buy a flight control stick or am I just really bad at flying stuff...
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lockdar posted:I tried Elite out yesterday with just a mouse and keyboard but just couldn't find a decent way to control my ship. What are other people's experience with M&K? Is it better to buy a flight control stick or am I just really bad at flying stuff... I have friends who have full throttle setups, use an Xbox controller, or M&K. It seems fine on all those.
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quote:The more I thought about it, post 2.2 - You pretty much won't have to worry about Combat ship FSD range limits at all anymore.  quote:Easy. You place a cooldown on how frequently a ship can be transferred. I officially hate this game's community. Never have I seen so many people that hate fun this much. The quality of the contrived examples they come up with to counter instant xfer is abysmal. gently caress everything Chrysophylax fucked around with this message at 11:00 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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Sep 8, 2016 10:55
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Chrysophylax posted:I officially hate this game's community. Never have I seen so many people that hate fun this much. The quality of the contrived examples they come up with to counter instant xfer is abysmal. gently caress everything
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Sep 8, 2016 11:13
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Paramemetic posted:The removal of single player was very transparently a DRM thing but the bullshit reason provided was that computers wouldn't be able to handle it without dedicating gigs to it. Because Space Engine isn't a thing! That was a good try on their part though.
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I think it was more about how the BGS and stuff functions. I don't see that it was necessarily just a 'we want DRM but don't want to tell the players that' thing - if anything it's more  to do what they say they did, which is develop the entire engine in a way that needs a connection to the servers, and then turn around just before launch and say 'uh, so guys...'
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Sep 8, 2016 11:32
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I vaguely remember more or less saying it was specifically a combo of DRM and to authenticate store purchases. Anyway the "if you don't like it ask for a refund" window closed long, long ago so here we are 
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Mr. Crow posted:Voted delay, have fun grognards Lol, you have elite dangerous
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Paramemetic posted:The removal of single player was very transparently a DRM thing but the bullshit reason provided was that computers wouldn't be able to handle it without dedicating gigs to it. My amiga 3000 could generate a galaxy, but on the other hand there were pretty strong limitations like ship hardware had wear and tear (so you would need to be exploring near the bubble or your ship systems would basically stop working) and that some planets or gas giants weren't even solid (so you would stop fuel scooping from them).
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Sep 8, 2016 12:21
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They said the part that individual computers couldn't handle was the simulation of all the BGS stuff across the whole galaxy.
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lockdar posted:I tried Elite out yesterday with just a mouse and keyboard but just couldn't find a decent way to control my ship. What are other people's experience with M&K? Is it better to buy a flight control stick or am I just really bad at flying stuff... Having spent time using them all now I'd say flight stick > controller > k+m All are viable though with a little practise and playing around with different control schemes. I was personally very surprised with the controller being as good as it is, frontier have done very clever control schemes that manage to get everything on the pad through combinations and long pressing buttons brings up reminders for what buttons do.
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lockdar posted:I tried Elite out yesterday with just a mouse and keyboard but just couldn't find a decent way to control my ship. What are other people's experience with M&K? Is it better to buy a flight control stick or am I just really bad at flying stuff... In terms of the important controls, I used this video as a guide. Rolling on Q/E and flying that way somehow made more sense in the space of a couple hours than years of attempting to use sticks did.
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AnimalChin posted:I want to do this but I'm super casual. Are the frog people casual friendly? Frogs cover the whole spectrum. Help as much or as casually as you want. But even if contribute nothing at all it's nice to hang around with them. I'm always running the Frog discord chat even when not playing Elite because Frogs are cool dudes.
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Well I tried to sign up for it because there was a push, but it said my registration was invalid because I didn't put anything in the inara fields. I had never heard of inara before 10 minutes ago, but is it necessary to sign up to, to join the diamond frogs? Because the fields lacked the red asterisks... Morter fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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AnimalChin posted:I want to do this but I'm super casual. Are the frog people casual friendly? Not only are we casual friendly, we're actually tryhard hostile.
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Paramemetic posted:Not only are we casual friendly, we're actually tryhard hostile. Goons are the best thing about this grognard game. By a huge loving margin.
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Holy gently caress thanks to using private instead of open and CapnBry's ahk script (with some local modifications) I just filled up a 416t conda in 36 minutes. This is the best thing.
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Paramemetic posted:The removal of single player was very transparently a DRM thing but the bullshit reason provided was that computers wouldn't be able to handle it without dedicating gigs to it. I think you're all wrong. It was clearly a case of "oh, OH, we had the intern implement this and he made it a web service. -- how would we even... aah gently caress"
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I think they dropped offline because all their customers have an internet connection or they wouldn't have been able to buy and download the game. Most people leave the internet connected 24/7 now and with online only getting ever closer to being industry standard why bother spending cash or time on a feature very few people would actually use. They just didn't predict the amount of people who would go internet crazy about it and groan and sulk for years. I voted for delayed transfers, as I only own one ship.
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What's the most effective weapon loadout for Vultures? I put this game down for a year or so - back then, pulse lasers were king and I was unstoppable in my Vulture. But now, a year later, something has changed because I'm not very effective at combat anymore and getting blown up a lot! One thing that definitely changed are subsystems... previously, if you targeting the "power plant" subsystem was stupidly OP because enemy ships would instantly explode when the power plant died. So even if you couldn't deal good hull damage, you could still take out pythons and stuff pretty easily. Are any of the subsystems really worth targeting in the newest version?
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Polo-Rican posted:What's the most effective weapon loadout for Vultures? I put this game down for a year or so - back then, pulse lasers were king and I was unstoppable in my Vulture. But now, a year later, something has changed because I'm not very effective at combat anymore and getting blown up a lot! What changed is that the AI got tougher, so enemy ships actually fight back and try not to die now. Vulture with pulse lasers work just as well as they always did (though large multicannons have been added and are now a good option), and killing the powerplant still works just as well. NPC ships just fly better now.
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Putting dual incendiary multicannons on a Vulture is hilariously good and fun, but of course a pain to get because you're going to need to use engineer favors to make it happen. Targeting the power plant is still the most efficient way to kill most NPCs. When it's destroyed the output goes to 50% which for NPCs means they just stop dead in their tracks because they can't manage their modules to keep limping along. Continuing to damage a power plant at 0% incurs a random chance for the ship to instantly explode like before, and usually that ends up being long before the hull reaches 0%. Gimballed multicannons are still king of rapidly plugging subsystems again and again with minimum effort. The incendiary mod lets you strip shields pretty well while still being able to rapidly destroy power plants.
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Rhubarb94 posted:I voted for delayed transfers, as I only own one ship. 
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lockdar posted:I tried Elite out yesterday with just a mouse and keyboard but just couldn't find a decent way to control my ship. What are other people's experience with M&K? Is it better to buy a flight control stick or am I just really bad at flying stuff... The friends I play with, one uses a Dualshock, the other has one of those saiteks and the HTC vive, the loving braggart. The HTC vive saitek setup is for sure way more cool and fun, but I have used my DS3 and I loving HATE it compared to kb+m. The keyboard controls are weird to learn, but running the tutorial missions a few times and reviewing the key bind list for anything those forget to teach you, you'll basically have the gist and in a few days you won't want to do it any other way, unless you stumble into $1000 for VR and control peripherals, if you do just go with that.
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Does anyone know if the "Commander's Log" stuff they are talking about here https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/275151-Commanders-log-manual-and-data-sample is actually live? I have Verbose Logging turned on, but no Journal.*.log type files...
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lockdar posted:I tried Elite out yesterday with just a mouse and keyboard but just couldn't find a decent way to control my ship. What are other people's experience with M&K? Is it better to buy a flight control stick or am I just really bad at flying stuff... Try using the mouse for pitch/yaw and the A/D keys for roll. That always seemed a lot more natural to me than the default pitch/roll using the mouse.
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Any kind of control interface works fine for the game. The best pilot I know uses a goddamn XBox controller. Personally, I couldn't get into the game at all with KB/M. I had to get one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-Stick-Pc/dp/B001CXYMFS It's cheap and reliable. Mine is starting to wear out after over a year of extremely heavy use, but I definitely feel like I got my 30 bucks worth.
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This thing looks like it will be good if you are in the market for a HOTAS. http://www.thrustmaster.com/en_US/products/t16000m-fcs-hotas
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TomR posted:This thing looks like it will be good if you are in the market for a HOTAS. Preordered it on Amazon. Not coming out until next month. Want it soooo bad
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Sep 8, 2016 16:26
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The T-Flight Hotas is great but a little short on buttons, and the 1600m FCS is coming out next month and will have all the buttons you need, as well as a thumbstick on the throttle to get that sweet, sweet, 6DOF. The only problem is I don't really like the stick layout. Don't get a saitek. The build quality on a 50 dollar Thrustmaster stick is better than a 250 dollar saitek stick, as well as the ergonomics.
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Kurr de la Cruz posted:Preordered it on Amazon. Not coming out until next month. Want it soooo bad You and me and half the org it seems 
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