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Just bought DWTI after the surge today. Looks like the bulk of the huge draw was from imports and gulf shut-ins, both affected by the Hurricane.
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Is it because Twitter is a poo poo service?
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I haven't read a single thing about Twitter's financials besides recurrent "Twitter fails to make money again" headlines, but as a regular user of the site I'm 100% convinced the management has no idea what they're doing. Every feature they've introduced for years has been total poo poo and, to me, indicative that they have no idea why people use the site. If they can't make money during presidential election season, when 100% of people in the expendable-income-having demographics spend hours on the site arguing I dunno if they ever will.
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Sep 8, 2016 17:21
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Yeah honestly I'm baffled that Twitter is as highly valued as it is.
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Sep 8, 2016 17:41
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Almost time to wade into SCTY
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Sep 8, 2016 18:15
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I'm never in here but Wells Fargo just announced (10 mins ago) 5300 laid off and 130+ million in fees. Stocks haven't taken a hit. Would this be a situation where people would short? 49.90 at 3:52pm est.
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Shear Modulus posted:I haven't read a single thing about Twitter's financials besides recurrent "Twitter fails to make money again" headlines, but as a regular user of the site I'm 100% convinced the management has no idea what they're doing. Every feature they've introduced for years has been total poo poo and, to me, indicative that they have no idea why people use the site. You should look at the dotcom bubble, companies bragged about not making money so they could grow market share.
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Sep 8, 2016 21:00
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Just bought a bunch of tin.
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Sep 8, 2016 21:05
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Anyone want some tin? Got a lot over here
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Sep 8, 2016 21:05
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Buy some copper and start a bronze hedge fund
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Sep 8, 2016 21:16
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Just don't store it in Mexico to sidestep US tariffs like they are apparently doing with aluminum.
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What do you guys think about GEVO long term? I know their financials are a bit disastrous but their "partnership" with Butamax combined with a really solid IP portfolio, combined with the high-profile attention they're getting in the industry seems like they might have a solid shot with a worst case ending up in a buyout. Seems like the key concerns short term will be a reverse split and further dilution. Thoughts?
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Sep 8, 2016 23:31
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LLCoolJD posted:The CNBC talking heads, who I assume know more than I do I wouldn't bet too heavily on that. greasyhands posted:Almost time to wade into SCTY I think theres a huge downside risk there, if the deal falls through it could very easily hit single digits. At that point you seriously have to question its chances for survival R.A. Dickey fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Sep 9, 2016 |
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Sep 9, 2016 00:20
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Two months until the election. Anyone have plans in the event of a Trump win? He's been complaining about the low rates. Plus, he is who he is.R.A. Dickey posted:I wouldn't bet too heavily on that.  Despite their superior knowledge of the nuts and bolts, they had another guy on today calling for TWTR to sink as far as $9/share. With him on, the other "regulars" were all more bearish than they were just the other day.
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Sep 9, 2016 03:58
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LLCoolJD posted:Two months until the election. Anyone have plans in the event of a Trump win? He's been complaining about the low rates. Plus, he is who he is. Like any other extremely unlikely disaster, I think you should spend about fifteen minutes making sure you have some bottled water, a first aid kit, and some canned food set aside wherever you keep your durable goods, and then don't think about it any more. e. I'd like to add that news articles about his surge in national polling are red herrings, we do not elect presidents by national votes. He is still hopelessly behind in electoral college votes and is not showing any sudden remarkable change in strategy that will change that. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Sep 9, 2016 |
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Sep 9, 2016 04:06
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For what it's worth, my "trump wins" plan is to max out my credit cards buying conflict-free diamonds, swallow them, and then smuggle myself to a non-extradition country beyond the reach of Visa and Mastercard. If it seems like there's time, I'll try to bring my wife, too. e. actually gently caress diamonds, their high price is based on a monopoly and who knows if it'll hold up in the apocalypse. I'll buy and swallow... I dunno, emeralds or something. What's an expensive gemstone that they can't produce artificially yet? Sapphires?
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Sep 9, 2016 04:13
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Leperflesh posted:For what it's worth, my "trump wins" plan is to max out my credit cards buying conflict-free diamonds, swallow them, and then smuggle myself to a non-extradition country beyond the reach of Visa and Mastercard. If it seems like there's time, I'll try to bring my wife, too. I thought the response would involve short selling a bunch of stocks. This is good, though.
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Sep 9, 2016 04:27
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LLCoolJD posted:Two months until the election. Anyone have plans in the event of a Trump win? He's been complaining about the low rates. Plus, he is who he is. Unlike with Brexit, we have much better polls when it comes to the presidential elections and should see what's coming pretty clearly by early November. But if you believe there's a chance that Trump wins, you want to have OTM puts on the USD, SPY, and, hell, even Treasurys. Basically, short everything because foreign holders (if not nervous domestic ones) will flee for the fuckin' exits.
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Sep 9, 2016 04:46
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Leperflesh posted:For what it's worth, my "trump wins" plan is to max out my credit cards buying conflict-free diamonds, swallow them, and then smuggle myself to a non-extradition country beyond the reach of Visa and Mastercard. If it seems like there's time, I'll try to bring my wife, too. We can make all of those, but it doesn't do much to the price of good expensive natural stones. But I guess Pariba or Tanzanite. Maybe some precious non reactive metals like platinum.
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Sep 9, 2016 05:51
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Leperflesh posted:For what it's worth, my "trump wins" plan is to max out my credit cards buying conflict-free diamonds, swallow them, and then smuggle myself to a non-extradition country beyond the reach of Visa and Mastercard. If it seems like there's time, I'll try to bring my wife, too. Hah, the ceo of a company I worked for did this. Big sack full of diamonds and jetted to Namibia. Interpol caught up to him at some point I guess, but he still hasn't been sent back. Probably they won't come after you unless you manage to ring up 8 figures in credit card debt. Kobi Alexander, comverse.
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Sep 9, 2016 06:59
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monster on a stick posted:You should look at the dotcom bubble, companies bragged about not making money so they could grow market share. That applies to current startup bubble even more than it did to dotcoms. Having revenues or god forbid profits is completely undesirable, the only goals are explosive growth into platform monopoly or ridiculous valuation into quick exit and payout.
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Sep 9, 2016 14:42
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DIS.... Why?!???
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Sep 9, 2016 17:20
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Nice Meltdown.
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Sep 9, 2016 18:48
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Oh yeah come on SDS.
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Sep 9, 2016 18:56
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Out of the TSLA trade for a nice hundred bux. 
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Sep 9, 2016 19:07
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VendaGoat posted:Nice Meltdown. Finally things are moving again. Been a boring rear end summer for markets.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:07
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I wish the Fed would either just raise rates or shut up about it except at the meetings. Every time some regional bank chucklefuck opens their mouth to give their opinion the entire market takes a hit because everyone is so drat worried about it and it's annoying 
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Sep 9, 2016 19:32
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Hopefully the market has a short term correction. However I don't think it will last for long, there is too much money on the sidelines and rates are still ridiculously low. I think we will see a medium term correction roughly around the time the 5-year rises above the S&P 500 dividend yield. However I doubt even the Fed will be able to push that given the aforementioned cash on the sidelines and foreign instability. Maybe President Trump will boot out all the foreign money from the 10-year market, who knows.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:33
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Moridin920 posted:I wish the Fed would either just raise rates or shut up about except at the meetings. Every time some regional bank chucklefuck opens their mouth to give their opinion the entire market takes a hit because everyone is so drat worried about it and it's annoying If they did that, reactions to rate action would be much more precipitous, which could have potential snowball effects.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:34
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Moridin920 posted:I wish the Fed would either just raise rates or shut up about it except at the meetings. Every time some regional bank chucklefuck opens their mouth to give their opinion the entire market takes a hit because everyone is so drat worried about it and it's annoying "Just stick it in already!" 
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Sep 9, 2016 19:39
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Cheesemaster200 posted:If they did that, reactions to rate action would be much more precipitous, which could have potential snowball effects. Oh yeah this constant teasing from various regional bank authorities going 'well maybe lol' and 'but maybe not haha' is much better. I'm not saying crank the rates in a day but it would be nice if they were a little more clear in their messaging instead of just throwing out vague guesswork every couple weeks and letting the market decide odds based on that. I mean the guy's statement was so vague as to be almost meaningless why even say anything. "The longer we wait, the more risks there are. A case can be made for gradual increases based on data." Well no poo poo sherlock. What does that mean in terms of your vote this month??? Nothing. Oh well good day to buy I guess.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:48
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Why is everything down today? Did Hillary cough 3x in quick succession?
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Sep 9, 2016 20:29
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Why is everything down today? Did Hillary cough 3x in quick succession? She did?!?!?! *sells off 401k
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Sep 9, 2016 20:38
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I keep flip flopping on this but I kind of think a rate hike is much more likely this year than people think, at this point banks around the world kind of have to. They need to dig their heels in and say "look shitheads, do your loving job and legislate some fiscal stimulus if that's what the economy needs, this monetary environment it too stupid and fragile". ECB seems to have set this tone with their last talk if anyone listened to it, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see other reserve banks shift in this direction.
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oxsnard posted:Last TSLA post for now: 9/2/2016 TSLA Open: 202.33 9/9/2016 TSLA Close: 194.47 Your "insider information" is not valuable. You cannot predict the motion of this stock accurately. You cannot advise people how to trade this stock effectively. Not only all of the above, but you present your information as if you did actually have valuable information and are providing valuable advice. Your limitations in the face of an irrational stock are not moral failings, it's just consistent with the recurring theme of this thread re:TSLA; it's too irrational to trade. Your representation of yourself as anything other than another rube who cannot effectively trade TSLA is, however.
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Dwight Eisenhower posted:9/2/2016 TSLA Open: 202.33 Is this how CPAs dis one another? loving brutal.
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Double Bill posted:That applies to current startup bubble even more than it did to dotcoms. Having revenues or god forbid profits is completely undesirable, the only goals are explosive growth into platform monopoly or ridiculous valuation into quick exit and payout.
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VendaGoat posted:Is this how CPAs dis one another? Brokers, but close!
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Cheesemaster200 posted:Hopefully the market has a short term correction. However I don't think it will last for long, there is too much money on the sidelines and rates are still ridiculously low. Isn't a lot of the justification for current market pe that low rates accelerate growth so stocks are justified in high valuations? If rates raise or say current gdp projections keep coming in around 2% then the whole story is a farce. The amount of purchasing the ecb and Japanese central bank has done is staggering but short of bringing yields down in debt and juicing markets they still can't spark inflation. What exit strategies even exist? You stop doing it and today's actions become normal. Liquidation of any degree could create larger sell off
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