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Yvonmukluk posted:It's also a massive improvement over the other story where Flash gets bit because it doesn't end with Peter Parker in his classic costume with his traditional powers, only slightly later than usual. Although I love that one, too (despite the fact that all three stories end up with Peter making his own spider serum and becoming Spider Man) because the other two parts are great. Jameson putting his son over as Captain Spider and making Peter build him gadgets was great, and Gwen Stacy having Peter design her costume (which turns out to be barely there) and then going all silver-age "but I'm just a girl" is kinda funny, too.
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Red posted:Holy cow - do you remember the issue? I really want to see this. It depends on the writer. I remember reading that Mackie issue at the time too and I thought it was cool, and it has stuck with me. I think of it when they show other people using the webshooters like it ain't no thang. One thing that doesn't come up anymore, especially in the adaptations, is how the webshooters need(ed?) a double-tap to fire, or else making a fist or grabbing stuff would accidentally fire them. Easy to get around if you show that the trigger is wide and detects the absence of the other two fingers, but... they never do.
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Crap, now Marvel Unlimited is down so I can't check. I actually think the other Spider-Person story in that What-If was Betty Brant.
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Lobok posted:It depends on the writer. I remember reading that Mackie issue at the time too and I thought it was cool, and it has stuck with me. I think of it when they show other people using the webshooters like it ain't no thang. The issue I was thinking of where Peter explains his powers to MJ is Spider-Man #26 (vol 1; 1992), or a free 1993 Halloween comic. Can't find any scans, though. I wish I could find it, he goes into detail about being able to stick to walls and stuff. 
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Sep 8, 2016 15:24
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Red posted:The issue I was thinking of where Peter explains his powers to MJ is Spider-Man #26 (vol 1; 1992), or a free 1993 Halloween comic. Can't find any scans, though. I remember that one. Used to have all the 30th anniversary issues. Isn't it the one where he explains his bond to walls is crazy strong? It shows Colossus ripping him off a brick wall but only because the bricks broke apart from the rest of the wall.
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Sep 8, 2016 15:59
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Lobok posted:I remember that one. Used to have all the 30th anniversary issues. Isn't it the one where he explains his bond to walls is crazy strong? It shows Colossus ripping him off a brick wall but only because the bricks broke apart from the rest of the wall. Yeah! The main story from that issue was a waste of time, but the mini about his powers was great.
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Sep 8, 2016 16:16
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Section Z posted:The fact Spiderman had something so drastically embarrasing happen to him, should have been all the proof they needed he was the real deal. "I want a deep medical scan with DNA checks on multiple levels in multiple locations. Also we're bringing in Xavier to do a sub-conscious and conscious mind check with mechanical double checks all the way through, we also need-" "Ah...I just pissed myself..." "...get some sleep Peter, we'll see you tomorrow."
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Sep 8, 2016 16:59
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Duke Igthorn posted:"I want a deep medical scan with DNA checks on multiple levels in multiple locations. Also we're bringing in Xavier to do a sub-conscious and conscious mind check with mechanical double checks all the way through, we also need-" We need more Spider-Man suffering in a funny manner, not a depressing manner.
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Sep 8, 2016 18:30
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The Question IRL posted:I love that story because I love when What If's branch off from a story instead of being "What If Daredevil...was a caveman!" That's usually the key difference between What If's and Elseworlds, with exceptions.
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Sep 8, 2016 20:23
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Red posted:The issue I was thinking of where Peter explains his powers to MJ is Spider-Man #26 (vol 1; 1992), or a free 1993 Halloween comic. Can't find any scans, though. Turnabout is fair play. 
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Sep 8, 2016 20:52
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Quesada was a real rear end in a top hat to take that away from Peter.
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Sep 8, 2016 20:53
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Yo homeboy.
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It's a weird feeling seeing Spider-Man be happy. I think maybe, on some level, it's because unhappy Spider-Man has become a self-fulfilling prophecy. It looks so beautiful, and he so deserves it, but the fact that you know something is going to gently caress it all up kind of makes you not want it to happen. gently caress, how in the hell does Spider-Man have any self-esteem left? Now I'm depressed. 
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Captain Bravo posted:It's a weird feeling seeing Spider-Man be happy. I think maybe, on some level, it's because unhappy Spider-Man has become a self-fulfilling prophecy. It looks so beautiful, and he so deserves it, but the fact that you know something is going to gently caress it all up kind of makes you not want it to happen. At some point Parker Luck became less about the trials and tribulations a normal person would face being a superhero if they didn't have as much plot armour as Cap or Iron Man and turned into Murphy's Law.
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Captain Bravo posted:gently caress, how in the hell does Spider-Man have any self-esteem left? Now I'm depressed. I recently picked up Spider Man and the X-men, and I don't know, he had some things to be proud of in there 
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Captain Bravo posted:gently caress, how in the hell does Spider-Man have any self-esteem left? That annual where he returns the phone.
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Sep 8, 2016 22:09
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Detective No. 27 posted:
I remember the last Flintstones post coming in for pretty heavy criticism, but that one made me laugh. 
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Did Logan become part of the Dallas Buyer's Club?
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Sep 8, 2016 22:38
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prefect posted:I remember the last Flintstones post coming in for pretty heavy criticism, but that one made me laugh. Flintstones #3 has prehistoric Carl Sagan and aliens. It was good.
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Sep 8, 2016 22:40
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prefect posted:I remember the last Flintstones post coming in for pretty heavy criticism, but that one made me laugh. If the other posts are any indication I'm sure they leave him on hold long enough that he kills himself. Because the new Flintstone comic is serious business.
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Sep 8, 2016 22:55
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X-O posted:If the other posts are any indication I'm sure they leave him on hold long enough that he kills himself. Because the new Flintstone comic is serious business. He actually comes to the aid of the other veterans when they fight back against the spring breaking aliens, and is killed by an alien. The other veterans are disappointed that the new statue doesn't honor him, but instead honors a chimp they tried to catapult into space.
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Sep 8, 2016 22:57
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X-O posted:If the other posts are any indication I'm sure they leave him on hold long enough that he kills himself. Because the new Flintstone comic is serious business. HB's new comics in general seem to shift towards dark and serious between the 2 (soon to be 3) post apocalypses and this Flintstones book where every issue deals with death, war crimes, or other dark topics. Still rather tame compared to that mid 2000s Space Ghost book that tried it's damnedest to distance itself from Coast to Coast with unintentionally hilarious results.
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Sep 8, 2016 23:00
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I think DC is trying just a little too hard with these Hanna Barbera books.
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Sep 8, 2016 23:00
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Isnt that dc in general?
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Sep 8, 2016 23:01
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Some people look at the premise of The Flintstones and see an rich, untapped vein of black humor. God bless.
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Sep 8, 2016 23:01
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SynthOrange posted:Isnt that dc in general? I dunno, most of the books I'm reading don't seem to be doing that. Granted I'm not reading a lot of their stuff. Just seems someone is set on making sure that these kids cartoons get treated as serious comic booking.
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Sep 8, 2016 23:03
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I dunno about the others because I'm not reading them, but Flintstones isn't really grimdark at all. It's just got loads of gallows humor and plays twists on conventions from the original. If that's not your bag that's fine, but I dunno why everyone is acting like it's Identity Crisis or something.
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Yabba Dabba Dark
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Yabba Dabba Doom and Despair!
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I'm mostly just curious how many kids got their hands on these comics.
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Sep 8, 2016 23:10
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Dark maybe, but that doesn't seem grim to me.
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Future Quest is good at least. Even though the regular artist has already screwed up the schedule and caused need for a fill in issue.Bongo Bill posted:Dark maybe, but that doesn't seem grim to me. It's more that a "Haha, nobody cares about the plight of veterans!" joke in a Flintstone comic just seems all manners of forced. X-O fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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Sep 8, 2016 23:13
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bunnyofdoom posted:Yabba Dabba Dark Uh...actually, the new canon for the Flintstones comic is the phrase "Yabba Dabba Doo" is a phrase used by PTSD-suffering war veterans when triggered into an episode to regain their balance. So you're more accurate than you'd think. That being said, it's also not really grimdark serious like, say, the new Wacky Races comic is (which I'm probably gonna drop), it's really super black humor but doesn't really dwell on any of the hosed-up statements it puts forward, leaving that up to the reader to realize. It's definitely not for everyone, and the second issue is kind of a total mess (which is where all the panels that caused all the commotion came from last time), but this most recent issue is really really good while also being very funny.
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Toxxupation posted:Uh...actually, the new canon for the Flintstones comic is the phrase "Yabba Dabba Doo" is a phrase used by PTSD-suffering war veterans when triggered into an episode to regain their balance. Well speaking of forced...
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X-O posted:It's more that a "Haha, nobody cares about the plight of veterans!" joke in a Flintstone comic just seems all manners of forced. It's not, really, Fred being a vet is a central plot point of the comic.
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SilverSupernova posted:
Was this the same book that revealed Space Ghost's name to be his same name from Coast to Coast? Tadd Ghost or something like that? Not a good way of distancing itself from it. Re; spider shooters. Spidey did try to sell his webbing as adhesive, but was turned down because it did eventually dissolved.
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Yabba dabba doo being a made up nonsense phrase to help veterans keep calm was dumb, I agree, but otherwise I can't really tell what you want out of the Flintstones, XO. I mean like I said, it's fine if that's not your cup of tea, but you're putting forward that it's a wrong direction, so what would be a more correct one?
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X-O posted:It's more that a "Haha, nobody cares about the plight of veterans!" joke in a Flintstone comic just seems all manners of forced. Eh, I'd argue part of the humor is precisely how weirdly incongruous with the original's banal 1950s sitcom humor the new jokes and plot setups are, but I can see how it'd be off-putting so I don't think I'd give it unqualified recommendations. Seems to work for me.
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