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Robiben posted:People hating on Clint not mentioning that he started the "Bork" bit which is a loving amazing bit. Shameful. I mean, it's mainly Toxx, master of being completely wrong about all media he consumes and even some that he doesn't.
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Car Boys has turned into something so amazing from such humble origins.
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Griffin asking for the backstories should have been an interlude episode. It feels a little less meaningful when we just learned about these defining things 5 minutes ago. I'm not saying it was a bad episode, I enjoyed it.
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Sep 9, 2016 01:48
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Holy poo poo that Car Boys episode. I'm glad the Busto Arc seems to be over. I think any attempt to top Busto's 5th dimensional chicanery in this episode would have just been anticlimactic.
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Xander B Coolridge posted:Holy poo poo that Car Boys episode. Yep - and as amazing and godlike as Busto is, I also kinda miss the car-smashing nonsense of the first three or four episodes.
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i was not ready for the busto dimension
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Sep 9, 2016 03:03
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I'm not really seeing how intense this episode of TAZ is. People are talking about Magnus' backstory, but I guess I must not have been paying enough attention or something because it seemed pretty basic. I wanna cry like everyone else is, dangit!
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Sep 9, 2016 03:13
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Yeah there was a loving lot going on in the episode + I'd definitely recommend at least a partial relisten. What a drat good episode.
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Sep 9, 2016 03:27
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I feel really guilty because I don't get it! 
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Sep 9, 2016 03:29
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The claims that it's the best episode ever, made them cri evertim, etc are totally overblown. It had a good, emotional moment in Magnus' solo that was built to somewhat well if you remember the vague allusions to Magnus' backstory that were talked about at the beginning of TAZ and/or remember the one-line mention of it at the end of Crystal Kingdom, but it's not even the most emotionally effective scene of the podcast. And, structurally speaking, there's a lot of buildup for not much payoff, it's nowhere near as well balanced as the last vignette ep.
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Sep 9, 2016 03:31
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The Fandolin stuff was way loving harsher than the Magnus/Julia stuff though.
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Toxxupation posted:The claims that it's the best episode ever, made them cri evertim, etc are totally overblown. It had a good, emotional moment in Magnus' solo that was built to somewhat well if you remember the vague allusions to Magnus' backstory that were talked about at the beginning of TAZ and/or remember the one-line mention of it at the end of Crystal Kingdom, but it's not even the most emotionally effective scene of the podcast. And, structurally speaking, there's a lot of buildup for not much payoff, it's nowhere near as well balanced as the last vignette ep. Gosh thanks for telling me I actually didn't really like the episode, where would I be without you
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Sep 9, 2016 03:36
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God the two mountains Busto created are some primo End of Evangelion poo poo.
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flatluigi posted:Gosh thanks for telling me I actually didn't really like the episode, where would I be without you It's amazing how bad you are at reading comprehension. Like, genuinely impressive stuff.
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Merle is basically like the anime mascot character of the Adventure Zone. Like, the Teddie. You have to think of it that way. That's what I like about Clint's whole presence in the show. I think the thing that disappointed me was that they didn't touch on "holidays at Aunt Blarg's" with Gundren, or that Merle, in spite of apparently coming from a Pan-worshipping family, was worshipping Marthammor Duin when we first met him. I'm not disappointed because of continuity, mind you, but because those two things are really funny. Within the narrative, Merle is a very religious man who preaches family values but will switch the deity he is religious towards at the drop of a hat, and he loving hates his family. nerdbot fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Sep 9, 2016 |
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Sep 9, 2016 03:54
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To be fair Pan was retconned to be the god he always worshiped the same way that Taako was retconned to have always done transmutation.
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Maybe THAT'S when they all died!
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Toxxupation posted:The claims that it's the best episode ever, made them cri evertim, etc are totally overblown. It had a good, emotional moment in Magnus' solo that was built to somewhat well if you remember the vague allusions to Magnus' backstory that were talked about at the beginning of TAZ and/or remember the one-line mention of it at the end of Crystal Kingdom, but it's not even the most emotionally effective scene of the podcast. And, structurally speaking, there's a lot of buildup for not much payoff, it's nowhere near as well balanced as the last vignette ep. I disagree with you nearly every time you post something related to a piece of media I also consumed, but I also see where you're coming from. How much you enjoy this episode will pretty much entirely hinge on how much you were invested in, or liked the boy's backstory. I feel like Griffin has a lot of really good ideas and not much experience in putting them down, so we get things like crystal kingdom and the random sidecharacter in Taako's bit sometimes.  I sort of felt eh about Sheriff Isaac's journal, too.
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Yeah, I never really knew/noticed the boys' backstory. When I started relistening to the show, I wondered why the whole cooking show thing caught me by surprise when Ren brought it up, seeing as Taako talked about it so much as early as Rockport. The effectiveness was hampered by the fact that in practice, this was pretty much the first I had heard of any sort of significant backstory.
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I just enjoy it for the character development and absolutely inspired DM'ing by Griffin. I don't really get into critiquing each individual person involved for their faults/contributions to the overall narrative, nor do I even see the merits in doing so. I think it's incredibly balanced comedically, dramatically, and narratively; and, at its core, it's just three brothers playing D&D with their dad. I love it. It's inspired me to do the same with my friends.
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I tend to roll my eyes a bit at the serious moments of this show. I'm here for the goofs, not the rich, deep, and tragic history of a guy named Taako who is on a quest to invent tacos.misadventurous posted:"Beach dwarves" is so good. Hell yeah.
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Beekeeping and You posted:I disagree with you nearly every time you post something related to a piece of media I also consumed, but I also see where you're coming from. How much you enjoy this episode will pretty much entirely hinge on how much you were invested in, or liked the boy's backstory. I feel like the Big Problem TAZ has, as a story, is that it's really good at forming and imparting story that moves forward or evolves alongside the narrative and less good to outright bad at forming and imparting backstory. I'm not one of the dudes who starts sobbing at the Sloan/Hurley stuff but I recognize that it's emotionally effective and earned with a powerful conclusion that made sense and was impactful. In contrast, the Crystal Kingdom stuff was, at best, a gigantic mess and I feel like this episode just continues that inconsistent trend. Like, again, the Magnus stuff was the most effective part of the episode mostly because it was based off stuff that Travis wrote long beforehand that had a bunch of fairly subtle references to it sprinkled throughout the past fiftyish episodes, which unless you're a crazy obsessive you probably didn't even notice (if Waffleman's anything to go by).
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I also think that after a point, I just kinda stopped registering the backstory references, because I thought all that stuff was touched on in the backer prequel episode.
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It's been a long time since Taako got a new Taco part
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They talked about it in The Taz Zone, it's kinda hard to do and have a satisfying conclusion without it being planned by both parties and it was just kind of a thing to make goofs on while Justin got into Taako's skin. I doubt they'll return to it.
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TAZ isn't flawless, but the fact that Griffin -- who I think said he doesn't have any previous experience in creative/narrative writing -- is coming up with cool stuff that works at this level, and who is having to shape the plot around his bros and dad being ridiculous as possible and is writing scenarios in anticipation of their personalities, who has shown he's learning crazy fast how to exploit the D&D system for entertaining storytelling purposes, and can tie all these references and backstories into multiple connecting arcs while editing on the fly... it's very impressive. This is hard enough when you're an author writing prose and in control of every facet, but in a roleplay scenario? Dude has natural talent. Considering how most of the McElroys started the podcast as D&D novices at best, all of them are impressive. I can pick at a few slip-ups, but only because they're perfectly juggling like a hundred other balls so smoothly I barely notice the effort in the background.
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Jesus christ some of yall are incredibly critical of these sweet boys and their good time dice rolling. Ease up a little.
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painynumbs posted:This thread turned me onto MBMBaM (and Monster Factory) and then I unexpectedly became obsessed with TAZ with zero background knowledge of D&D, so thank you all for that. It's very much my poo poo. honestly, anyone can pick up and run the "lost mines of phandelver" (the first few episodes of TAZ are set in it) campaign and run it. it does an exceptional job of teaching the DM and players at the same time. it's not high concept at all, but that's perfect for new people, because you can change as much or as little as you and the players feel comfortable with. It also has 4 pre-generated characters, which is great because some people immediately take to creating a character, but for others it might be a big ask for something they wind up not caring for. 5e (the current rules version) is also hands down the smoothest system for new players to pick up, because a lot of it boils down to the DM deciding advantage/disadvantage instead of referencing dozens of tables of modifiers. you can get the 5e starter set off amazon for less than thirty bucks: https://www.amazon.com/Dungeons-Dra...ons+starter+set if you want to get more in-depth, like rules for creating your own characters, you can get the player's handbook for about the same amount. e: this wasn't directed at painynumbs in particular, I've just seen a lot of people in this thread express interest in D&D while knowing nothing about it, and I want to make people aware that now's the easiest time to get into it. padijun fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Sep 9, 2016 |
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who's keen for the MBMBaM tv show?
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I, too, liked Taako's segment less than Magnus' and Merle's. Merle's was simple and funny and Magnus' was a long time coming, but introducing an entirely new character and immediately giving them such an important role was kind of strange. It was certainly a departure from how I thought Taako's backstory would resolve, sure, but that's not my issue. If this character (whose name I cannot remember) were mentioned in passing here and there or even once during an allusion to Taako's history, it would have been a much cooler surprise than the person being introduced within minutes of their betrayal. All that being said, the scene did enable a feature of the show which is, sadly, becoming increasingly rare: Taako being a giant selfish butthole. Hearing him completely absolve himself of any and all guilt immediately upon finding out he wasn't directly responsible for killing the 40 people he poisoned was the funniest part of the episode in my opinion.
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Toxxupation posted:It's amazing how bad you are at reading comprehension. Like, genuinely impressive stuff. 
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FutonForensic posted:Where the gently caress does Nick live that there's always a siren going off at one point during his recordings look, when you commit crimes against bustos, you're gonna run into a lot of police issues
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Re: TAZ, Am I the only one who wished that Magnus had gone for the chalice? Like, I get his rationale for how Julia wouldn't have wanted him to sacrifice those future lives, and it does make sense in the context of Magnus becoming a protector of people and how he wouldn't be able to help the BoB if he went back, but with how he was "utterly destroyed" when he saw Julia, it would have been really loving cool for him to say drat it all and reach for the chalice and for Taako and Merle to have to fight him off of it. Maybe even using Roswell to stop him if Griffin had had them fight in the real space instead of June's bubble, I don't know. I was just a little let down that Griffin warned at the end of the last episode that he was going to sell them on it but they were all Good Good Boys who weren't tempted at all. Part of me wonders if Griffin was hoping for something a little more interesting too, but I guess that's how D&D goes. Totally agreeing with everyone that Taako not giving a gently caress about the deaths was easily the best part of the episode though.
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bowmore posted:who's keen for the MBMBaM tv show? I'm wondering what the format will be like, but if there's a poo poo ton of yahoo answers up in there, they'll do fine. And hey, since it's halloween coming up maybe they could revisit the Hole-shebang, the yahoo answer that got me hooked on the show all those years ago. When they were talking about the dude who asked if he could wear a costume that was a giant dick with a butt and breasts when greeting trick or treaters I had to pull over to the side of the road because I was having a hard time seeing the road from laughing too drat hard.
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Toxxupation posted:The claims that it's the best episode ever, made them cri evertim, etc are totally overblown. It had a good, emotional moment in Magnus' solo that was built to somewhat well if you remember the vague allusions to Magnus' backstory that were talked about at the beginning of TAZ and/or remember the one-line mention of it at the end of Crystal Kingdom, but it's not even the most emotionally effective scene of the podcast. And, structurally speaking, there's a lot of buildup for not much payoff, it's nowhere near as well balanced as the last vignette ep. show me the goddamn documents, feels-havers!!
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CronoGamer posted:Re: TAZ, Am I the only one who wished that Magnus had gone for the chalice? I was also hoping for that! It would have been pretty interesting, and Magnus has gone on record as having a desire to use the relics for good. That being said, I also think that Travis did a really good job on selling just how hard of a decision it was for Magnus.
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I want both of Taako's tanktops. lovely Wizard Club indeed.
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Travis343 posted:The Fandolin stuff was way loving harsher than the Magnus/Julia stuff though. I didn't get as effected by it because it was the Chalice being vengeful against them and using other's deaths that are the fault of Gundren using an item of great power first and foremost to punish them, no matter how much it was supposed to teach them a lesson. The items of great powers are still hosts to really selfish spirits, and it was just trying to fight for its survival knowing what would happen if the BoB gets them. The fact it's being manipulative to punish the boys took the punch out of it for me, because I'm thinking, "oh eat poo poo, you turd cup." The Magnus and Julia thing hits because it's such a personal tragedy, and is something where you could do the math easier to see, "old vengeful man comes and kills my family and home," easier than, "a dwarf turns into a nuke." The body toll was greater, but the cup was being just so petty and rubbing their nose in the fact that they don't want to use it's forbidden power, not that it's a terrible event they had some hand in. I hate that stupid loving cup for trying to make Tres Horny Boys sad.
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