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rabidsquid posted:i dont know if thats fair. while fallout 4 has massively improved shooting, which is fun, a lot of stuff they did with the perk/skill system, voiced dialogue, quest/dialogue writing was either a step back from FO3 or received mixed reception. That's almost made up for by adding charisma perks that eventually let you just boss around practically everyone and everything that's a lower level than you, which is great fun. Then again having a few really outstanding/fun perks in a sea of garbage kind of goes back to the series' roots. I wouldn't mind the base building so much if there was a purpose, but for the most part settlements are just dots on the map that you occasionally have to defend to protect your bottled water empire
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I enjoyed FO4 more than FO3. Neither comes close to FO:NV though.
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Sep 9, 2016 16:21
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Sep 9, 2016 16:48
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Surely that's fine, because on console high framerates are a bonus feature not most developers care about including.
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Sep 9, 2016 16:57
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Few hours in now and I'd just like to say I'm having way more fun with Tomb Raider than I did with UC4 The majority of the game is pretty bog standard 3rd person one man army gameplay which doesn't align with the character(s) the story tries to portray. By the time I got to Chapter 16, I had to stop and see how many more chapters were left. Once I found out I put the game down and continued to play in spurts across several weeks until the end. I would recommend doing the same if you start to get that "is it over yet?" mindset.
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Sep 9, 2016 17:02
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Sep 9, 2016 17:03
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Are only two of the Fallout 4 DLCs actual gameplay (Nuka World and Far Harbor) and the others are all 'play with menus stuff' (build robots, build settlements, build a vault, etc)? I'm looking at them but I have absolutely zero interest in building/crafting/menu fuckery. edit: this is apparently not actually the fallout thread but whatever the question stands. Saint Freak fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Sep 9, 2016 |
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Sep 9, 2016 17:06
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HONKER24 posted:I was in the same boat and didn't understand the praise Uncharted 4 got aside from the graphics and to some extent the story. Did you play the original three games? I mostly felt the same way about 1-3 (I played the HD remasters just recently), there were really enjoyable setpieces and I liked the story but the combat was just extraordinarily tedious and I was checking chapters for progress. I blasted through UC4 and enjoyed it the whole time though, probably because it improved so much on the previous games (graphics, gameplay, story, tone etc.) and it was a big sort of story closure exercise as well. One thing I thought put the uncharted games far above tomb raider was the humour though, I mean Drake is a plucky serial killer but at least he's plucky.
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Sep 9, 2016 17:15
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HONKER24 posted:I was in the same boat and didn't understand the praise Uncharted 4 got aside from the graphics and to some extent the story. one man army is one way to play the game, but if that's why you didn't enjoy it that's kind of on you because you can get by pretty much every encounter with minimal gunfire. my favourite time was when you're with Elena and you can just sprint for the jeep, get in, and drive away, no shots fired.
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Sep 9, 2016 17:18
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Saint Freak posted:Are only two of the Fallout 4 DLCs actual gameplay (Nuka World and Far Harbor) and the others are all 'play with menus stuff' (build robots, build settlements, build a vault, etc)? I have not played any of them myself yet but I know the robot one has a questline associated with it. I don't think the settlement or the vault building ones do, though.
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Saint Freak posted:Are only two of the Fallout 4 DLCs actual gameplay (Nuka World and Far Harbor) and the others are all 'play with menus stuff' (build robots, build settlements, build a vault, etc)? Automatron adds a small quest besides the crafting poo poo so it doesn't say Workshop http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_4_add-ons
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Sep 9, 2016 17:29
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theres technically a quest in the vault one, and the automatron dlc is also technically a quest but if you bought them expecting gameplay you'd be disappointed. just think of them as workshop dlc, altho automatron lets you make robot companions (altho this also requires a shitload of crafting materials and perks)
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Don't get me wrong, I LOVED UC2/3 and was all up for 4 but it totally fell flat for me. Picked up Tomb Raider on a whim in the sale (€7, why not?) and it's reallly good so far. I never played it back on PS3. I really like how heavy the combat feels compared to most games. The pistol might be the best sounding one in a game since HL2. I'm not a massive amount of hours into the game but I really like it and can't wait for the next one now!
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Sep 9, 2016 17:51
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CrashCat posted:If anything the only indictment I have is the emphasis on useless base building features in the DLC and the predictable huge delay in bringing mods to consoles So PS Plus price hike, no game mods, and (ostensibly) blocking attempts at cross-platform multiplayer. I really like the Sony PlayStation, but I have to say I'm not a big fan of the Sony company.
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Sep 9, 2016 18:20
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MisterAlex posted:Speaking of mods on consoles, it looks like we won't get mods on PS4, after all. It sounds like Sony is the roadblock preventing it. I was SUPER excited about a console Skyrim remaster but this basically kills it for me. What a let down -- I guess I'll be saving some money in October
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Sep 9, 2016 18:34
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Don't get me wrong, I LOVED UC2/3 and was all up for 4 but it totally fell flat for me. Picked up Tomb Raider on a whim in the sale (€7, why not?) and it's reallly good so far. I never played it back on PS3. I really like how heavy the combat feels compared to most games. The pistol might be the best sounding one in a game since HL2. I'm not a massive amount of hours into the game but I really like it and can't wait for the next one now! The TR reboot is a really good game. Probably one of the only games I've bothered to get 100% completion on more than once, and I'd gladly do it again. Shame I'll never get the Platinum for it though, because the multiplayer trophies are obnoxious and the online is terrible. 
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Sep 9, 2016 18:44
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MisterAlex posted:Speaking of mods on consoles, it looks like we won't get mods on PS4, after all. It sounds like Sony is the roadblock preventing it. what cross platform multiplayer are they blocking now?
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Sep 9, 2016 19:07
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Dewgy posted:The TR reboot is a really good game. Probably one of the only games I've bothered to get 100% completion on more than once, and I'd gladly do it again. Haha I didn't even know there was multiplayer
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Sep 9, 2016 19:09
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yeah it has multi taken from the AC vein of "get your coins, sign up with your account, hit level 100!!!"
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Sep 9, 2016 19:12
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Automatron has a decently long quest for the $5 and building robots is a lot more fun than it sounds. It's especially fun to turn Codsworth into a polite English butler murderbot of doom and destruction. Nuka World also adds a lot of new robot parts to Automatron.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:20
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Don't get me wrong, I LOVED UC2/3 and was all up for 4 but it totally fell flat for me. Picked up Tomb Raider on a whim in the sale (€7, why not?) and it's reallly good so far. I never played it back on PS3. I really like how heavy the combat feels compared to most games. The pistol might be the best sounding one in a game since HL2. I'm not a massive amount of hours into the game but I really like it and can't wait for the next one now! Rise of the Tomb Raider takes it to the next level. Probably the best action/adventure game I've played in many years.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:24
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barren_sky posted:Rise of the Tomb Raider takes it to the next level. Probably the best action/adventure game I've played in many years. Yesssssss
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MisterAlex posted:Speaking of mods on consoles, it looks like we won't get mods on PS4, after all. It sounds like Sony is the roadblock preventing it.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:56
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barren_sky posted:Rise of the Tomb Raider takes it to the next level. Probably the best action/adventure game I've played in many years. I guess this is now my big October game. I'm still bummed about Skyrim but I've been counting down the drat days until this drops.
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Sep 9, 2016 20:02
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Mods on console is a shitshow of low ram caps, curated lists of boring mods, and even worse performance. Stick to pc for bethesda's poo poo heap games imo
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...! posted:Automatron has a decently long quest for the $5 and building robots is a lot more fun than it sounds. It's especially fun to turn Codsworth into a polite English butler murderbot of doom and destruction. Nuka World also adds a lot of new robot parts to Automatron. Isn't that dlc normally ten bucks? Could have been cheaper on a recent sale.
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Sep 9, 2016 20:22
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yeah its for sure ten bucks
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Ineffiable posted:Isn't that dlc normally ten bucks? Could have been cheaper on a recent sale. as if everyone didn't fall for the season pass ploy when they announced they changed it from $30 to $50 (and then didn't make $50 worth of game) oh, so it was just me
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new vegas was one of my favorite games from last generation i played F04 for 3 hours and never touched it again
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Yeah season pass is worth the price at 30 just for nuka World and far harbor. I would never play 50 just for a bunch of workshop/base stuff on top. Automatron is a nice bonus but probably not worth buying separately.
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Sep 9, 2016 20:29
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New Vegas made my PS3 crash more than every other game I've played combined but it was fun. The writing was good. I'm definitely gonna build a gaming PC next after this garbage generation change that's coming up so I'll get back into Fallout then but Bethesda have proved over and over that their engine just isn't cut out for consoles. Skyrim was probably the most stable one.
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I always find it ironic that Bethesda publish some of the most technically impressive games on console (DOOM, Wolfenstien) but then release FO4
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Sep 9, 2016 20:31
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part of the reason that beth games are better on pc is that people can fix their loving games for them 
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Sep 9, 2016 20:34
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rabidsquid posted:part of the reason that beth games are better on pc is that people can fix their loving games for them They haven't made a usable menu interface yet for this exact reason.
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Sep 9, 2016 20:37
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Quantum of Phallus posted:I always find it ironic that Bethesda publish some of the most technically impressive games on console (DOOM, Wolfenstien) but then release FO4
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homeless snail posted:Yeah exactly, publish. They can't make a game themselves for poo poo, but they happened to acquire some pretty good studios along the way.
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FO4 plays better than NV and has a way more fun wasteland to explore, even though the writing is even dumber than usual.
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Sep 9, 2016 20:41
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Akuma posted:Maybe they should get those studios to make the rest of their games, or at least promote the studio heads to be over all their games. FO and ES gameplay needs a special engine that remembers lots of little details so bethesda is not going to pay to make a new one until the one they have stops making money.
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Real hurthling! posted:FO and ES gameplay needs a special engine that remembers lots of little details so bethesda is not going to pay to make a new one until the one they have stops making money. There's degrees of making money. If FO4 played better it would make more money than it has.
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rabidsquid posted:what cross platform multiplayer are they blocking now?
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