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xrunner posted:Yeah. They were/are? In Pioneer Courthouse Square. they apparently locked down Benson High School to keep it from spreading or something dumb. http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2016/09/portland_public_schools_called.html#incart_2box https://twitter.com/MikeBennerKGW/status/774407682392338432 https://twitter.com/MikeBennerKGW/status/774408025935257600
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xrunner posted:Yeah, I didn't even know about the LLC thing so that makes it even funnier. Some people complain about gross receipts taxes hitting businesses with tighter margins more heavily, but with a tax like this and all the trickery you can pull off allocating profits and losses, I think it's the smarter way to go. I'm a lot more sympathetic to the margins argument in states like NM or WA where the tax hits every business. This is a different protest. I dont think Roosevelt ever got around to walking out, I can't find anything about it. xrunner posted:Yeah, I didn't even know about the LLC thing so that makes it even funnier. Some people complain about gross receipts taxes hitting businesses with tighter margins more heavily, but with a tax like this and all the trickery you can pull off allocating profits and losses, I think it's the smarter way to go. I'm a lot more sympathetic to the margins argument in states like NM or WA where the tax hits every business. Yeah, Benson went into lockout this week to keep kids from streaming out of the school to join with Lincoln students. After the cops left, a bunch of Benson kids joined some of the Lincoln stragglers. The whole thing was asinine. I wont be surprised if Benson stages a walkout this week too. These buildings are old, in poor condition, and are loving deathtraps in the event of an earthquake. The school board's first response to a student walkout was to summon police to the BESC. Says a lot about what they think about the kids under their care. Schwack fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Sep 10, 2016 |
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anthonypants posted:lmao I love white people in Portland.
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Doccers posted:... Why does this not surprise me?
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What's the deal with Washington I-1501? Like OK increase penalties for identity theft if they target seniors or old people, but what is the societal benefit of the changes to the public disclosure laws? The against suggests it's an attempt for SEIU to limit information about union due payment, and it's obvious there are assholes who wrote that, but it seems a little over the top for merely preventing identity theft. It extremely limits when and what information about seniors and their care givers can be released by the State, but most of the stuff seems like it should be public knowledge? Like which caregivers are taking care of who? I trust goons to help me cut through the bullshit.
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foobardog posted:What's the deal with Washington I-1501? Like OK increase penalties for identity theft if they target seniors or old people, but what is the societal benefit of the changes to the public disclosure laws?
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foobardog posted:What's the deal with Washington I-1501? Like OK increase penalties for identity theft if they target seniors or old people, but what is the societal benefit of the changes to the public disclosure laws? It is not uncommon for the paid carer of a disabled person to be a family member, in which case information about their identity is more revealing information about that family than about a business. I don't know if that applies here, but it might be a place to start your researches.
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Jezebel doesn't have a lot of good articles, but this is a good article: https://jezebel.com/1786503469
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So this happened last week. Two Artists Are Giving Out “Gentrification Citations” To Local Businesses, Including Uncle Ike's quote:Late Monday night, members of an activism collective issued gentrification "citations" to 23rd Avenue businesses and development projects in the Central District. Uncle Ike's and CommuniTea Kombucha were two of the businesses that had the flyers taped onto their windows. The flyer, shown after the jump, reads: There was also this gem: quote:Although they are trying to reignite the conversation about gentrification, Sleidi made it clear that she believes the problem cannot exist as just a discussion. People of color are being targeted by "predatory" housing developers, she said, and the people living in new buildings are not taking the necessary direct actions to stop that cycle. The Stranger asked Sleidi and Getahun for specific actions or solutions that they believe can address the concerns they're raising, but did not receive specific answers. Any answers, the artists argue, must come from the people they see as gentrifiers. Why in the hell can't we ever have a serious discussion on the issue of gentrification? I get that this is a serious problem, but the discussion always stops there. No one ever wants to discuss where people moving in from out of town (and I mean as close as the suburbs here) are supposed to live, or that you have tons of people who already own property that are doing everything they can to prevent additional development. It's also my understanding that the Central District used to be a Jewish neighborhood, so telling the Jewish owner of Uncle Ike's that he doesn't belong is a bit uncomfortable. That bit at the end of the quote is just icing on the cake. They claim that the folks who aren't aware/don't understand the problem are expected to solve it for other people without any additional knowledge of what the proper fix is, or even if they are the right people to fix it. Brilliant. /But maaaaan we're talking about it now so I guess their plan was a success 
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Click the link to see the picture of the citation. We've reached peak Seattle.
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Solkanar512 posted:So this happened last week.
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It's not their job to educate you, maaaaaan
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anthonypants posted:It's performance art, not activism, so of course they don't have answers. Heck, one of them lives on the complete opposite end of the country. Last time The Stranger interviewed an artist complaining about the bougiefication of Capitol Hill, they had lived in the neighborhood shorter than I had by two years. And let it be known that I'm techie bougie scum, but I do try to avoid being a bro.
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Hughlander posted:Click the link to see the picture of the citation. We've reached peak Seattle. Hmm... Not quite passive-aggressive enough. "Just wanted to say I am glad this business moved into town, I thought my rent was far too cheap. "
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Mrit posted:Hmm... Not quite passive-aggressive enough. It probably was too cheap if you can get a palace like this for $675. http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/roo/5775294714.html
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anthonypants posted:http://komonews.com/news/local/display-hanging-near-sutherlin-causes-stir-among-i-5-motorists Please tell me this counts as a death threat against someone under Secret Service protection. Solkanar512 fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Sep 13, 2016 |
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not sure, whats a dearth that?Solkanar512 posted:Why in the hell can't we ever have a serious discussion on the issue of gentrification? I get that this is a serious problem, but the discussion always stops there. No one ever wants to discuss where people moving in from out of town (and I mean as close as the suburbs here) are supposed to live, or that you have tons of people who already own property that are doing everything they can to prevent additional development. It's also my understanding that the Central District used to be a Jewish neighborhood, so telling the Jewish owner of Uncle Ike's that he doesn't belong is a bit uncomfortable.
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coyo7e posted:Becoming gentrified was always part of the american dream. It was all fun and games when it was just indians being priced out of their homes.
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Gentrification is good, tax the lesser Seattle scum out of the city. I'm pretty conservative on fiscal issues but I vote for every local tax increase to push old people out of their homes, they are the enemy.
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coyo7e posted:not sure, whats a dearth that? It's my phone's way of spelling "death threat".
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So Oregon has some ballot measures coming up and I'll give my opinion on them. Descriptions via Ballotpedia: Measure 94 would repeal the mandatory judicial retirement age, which is currently 75 years old. - neutral/yes Measure 95 would allow public state universities to invest in equities. - neutral (I'm not sure how this would affect funding if there is a downturn, but it sounds like they can already do stock stuff as long as it was a gift) Measure 96 would devote 1.5 percent of state lottery net proceeds toward veterans' services. - neutral/yes (earmarking stuff is bad but it's a relatively low percent compared to the rest of already earmarked funds there) Measure 97 would raise corporate taxes on businesses with annual incomes that exceed $25 million. - yes (though I wish it was more granular, companies can probably pay it though) Measure 98 would require state funding for dropout-prevention and career and college readiness programs in Oregon high schools. - yes Measure 99 would create an "Outdoor School Education Fund," sourced from state lottery proceeds, to support outdoor school programs. - yes (though again drawing from the lottery is not good long term) Measure 100 would prohibit the sale of products from and parts of 12 species of endangered animals. - yes Oh and here are the Washington ballot measures but I don't live there so I haven't really researched them: quote:The Initiative 732 would impose a carbon emission tax on certain fossil fuels and fossil-fuel-generated electricity.
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computer parts posted:Oh and here are the Washington ballot measures but I don't live there so I haven't really researched them: The Initiative 732 would impose a carbon emission tax on certain fossil fuels and fossil-fuel-generated electricity. neutral/negative only a good law if a non-hosed State House/Senate balances the budget and invests wisely The Initiative 735 would urge a federal constitutional amendment that limits constitutional rights to people, not corporations. neutral/positive largely a show vote The Initiative 1433 would increase the state minimum wage to $13.50 by 2020. yes you are not going to see anything faster or better if this doesn't pass and/or pass strongly. The Initiative 1464 would create a campaign-finance system allowing residents to direct state funds to qualifying candidates, repeal the non-resident sales-tax exemption, restrict employment of former public employees and lobbying, and revise campaign-finance laws. positive There is very little to dislike. Throws sunlight into a shady world and allows actual voters to directly support candidates that voice their issues. The Initiative 1491 would authorize courts to issue extreme risk protection orders to remove an individual from access to firearms. negative incredibly badly written, largely an organ to target people LEO happen to not like for increased financial penalties & municipal plunder. The Initiative 1501 would increase criminal identity-theft penalties and expand civil liability for consumer fraud targeting seniors and vulnerable individuals. It would exempt certain information regarding vulnerable individuals and in-home caregivers from public disclosure. neutral fairly new on my radar, not exactly sure what it is formed to combat.
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computer parts posted:So Oregon has some ballot measures coming up and I'll give my opinion on them. Descriptions via Ballotpedia:
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Gerund posted:The Initiative 1501 would increase criminal identity-theft penalties and expand civil liability for consumer fraud targeting seniors and vulnerable individuals. It would exempt certain information regarding vulnerable individuals and in-home caregivers from public disclosure. neutral fairly new on my radar, not exactly sure what it is formed to combat. I just read the text, and it looks like a rather straight forward way to increase privacy and protections of seniors and vulnerable persons against identity theft.
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Here's a fun one! http://www.oregonlive.com/tigard/index.ssf/2016/09/cop_arrests_14-year-old_girl_s.html#incart_most-read_ A neighbor records a sheriff's deputy bullying a 14 year old girl. What did the officer say that might be considered poor performance? quote:The deputy had been called to the apartment Saturday afternoon to investigate a fight between the girl and her mother. Sounds like this officer really handled the situation poorly. What's the sheriff's office response? Lip service about training and conflict resolution skills? A conversation about how maybe sheriffs handling domestic disturbances shouldn't be encouraging parents to beat children? Nope! quote:It is my understanding that there was a video recording of a domestic violence incident involving a minor this weekend, and that there is probable cause to believe the video was made in violation of ORS 165.540. It is also my understanding that the domestic violence victim wishes to press charges against the suspect who illegally captured the video and audio of a private conversation within the victim's home and then posted it to a public forum.
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Gerund posted:The Initiative 1433 would increase the state minimum wage to $13.50 by 2020. yes you are not going to see anything faster or better if this doesn't pass and/or pass strongly. Wasn't there an initiative for $15 for the whole state? What happened to that one?
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Freakazoid_ posted:Wasn't there an initiative for $15 for the whole state? What happened to that one?
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Freakazoid_ posted:Wasn't there an initiative for $15 for the whole state? What happened to that one? You might be thinking of the Oregon law, which gradually raises it (higher than inflation) and then sets it at ~$15 for the Portland metro and lower depending on other factors:  Footnote: 2 Portland Area is an area encompassing the City of Portland and much of the greater tri-county area (Multnomah, Washington, and Clackamas counties) that is managed and periodically expanded by Metro, the Portland area regional government. 3 Non-Urban counties are Baker, Coos, Crook, Curry, Douglas, Gilliam, Grant, Harney, Jefferson, Klamath, Lake, Malheur, Morrow, Sherman, Umatilla, Union, Wallowa, and Wheeler counties.
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There's no way I-6414 survives the state supreme court, right. I like the idea but that's too many things on one initiative. E: I-1433 would also require paid sick leave to be offered. Bradf0rd fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Sep 13, 2016 |
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Gerund posted:The Initiative 1464 would create a campaign-finance system allowing residents to direct state funds to qualifying candidates, repeal the non-resident sales-tax exemption, restrict employment of former public employees and lobbying, and revise campaign-finance laws. positive There is very little to dislike. Throws sunlight into a shady world and allows actual voters to directly support candidates that voice their issues. 
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Bradf0rd posted:There's no way I-6414 survives the state supreme court, right. I like the idea but that's too many things on one initiative. Highly complex laws with multiple facets are fine, trying to code governmental processes with If/Than procedures as an end-run around initiative limitations are not.
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xrunner posted:Here's a fun one! http://www.oregonlive.com/tigard/index.ssf/2016/09/cop_arrests_14-year-old_girl_s.html#incart_most-read_ Is this some super rural county where they feel confidant about defending that kind of behavior(caught on camera anyway)? "If this were sharia you'd be dead" isn't exactly the kind of scared straight rhetoric that should be encouraged.
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FetusSlapper posted:Is this some super rural county where they feel confidant about defending that kind of behavior(caught on camera anyway)? "If this were sharia you'd be dead" isn't exactly the kind of scared straight rhetoric that should be encouraged. Nope! It's a suburb about fifteen minutes from downtown Portland (if traffic cooperates).
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FetusSlapper posted:Is this some super rural county where they feel confidant about defending that kind of behavior(caught on camera anyway)? "If this were sharia you'd be dead" isn't exactly the kind of scared straight rhetoric that should be encouraged.
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anthonypants posted:Are you at all familiar with the police in this country Well, I have stories from when I was young in Michigan.. But mostly my experience with cops (even when I was leg chained and sent to a mental hospital as a teen) were mostly positive. A cop giving a recommendation to beat a child seems like a huge and, since captured on video, unavoidable civil lawsuit.
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FetusSlapper posted:Well, I have stories from when I was young in Michigan.. But mostly my experience with cops (even when I was leg chained and sent to a mental hospital as a teen) were mostly positive. A cop giving a recommendation to beat a child seems like a huge and, since captured on video, unavoidable civil lawsuit. "But that's West Virginia! That's all the way on the opposite side of the country!" Okay, here's Portland-area policing: http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/07/portland_police_capt_mark_krug.html
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