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Jedit posted:I got to execute someone by Scaphism. Haha oh poo poo I definitely need to do that 
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Mister Adequate posted:Haha oh poo poo I definitely need to do that It's something Persian (not sure if it means Iranian group or specifically Persian; the code just says "persian") rulers can do, with Cruel and Wroth ones being much more likely to do it. So be an rear end in a top hat Persian and you can kill people with one of the most creatively horrible and absurdly prolonged execution methods ever devised.
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catlord posted:Have they added more provinces to North Africa? Mesopotamia, on the other hand... 
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At least Mesopotamia is renowned for having like, cities and permanent populations.
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Roland Jones posted:It's something Persian (not sure if it means Iranian group or specifically Persian; the code just says "persian") rulers can do, with Cruel and Wroth ones being much more likely to do it. So be an rear end in a top hat Persian and you can kill people with one of the most creatively horrible and absurdly prolonged execution methods ever devised. Maybe I'm
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Ofaloaf posted:They changed the shape of the coastal ones, but I think they haven't added any more in North Africa in a year or so. Oh wow. Honestly, the first two pictures don't look too bad, but I don't mind more cultures and religions and stuff. However, I hate map changes.
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Dallan Invictus posted:Maybe I'm A combination of the sounds of screaming, pooping, and bugs.
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Anyone know where the current Meta is for Horde army composition? I just got absolutely TROUNCED fighting another horde. We're talking doing barely 5% damage VS losing in about 5 days. The setup was about as follow : Me : 10 000 strong, probably about 3 000 Horse Archers, 2 000 Heavy Cavalry, and 5 000 Light Cavalry, more or less. We were both fighting in Steppe terrain and I was the attacker, with no Bonus or Malus on either side. My leaders had 19, 21 and 18 martial respectively, with I believe only one having Inspiring leader in the center, the rest I'm not sure if they even had a proper martial trait. There was no Crazy Shinanigans on the other side, and in fact they had mostly average defenders averaging around 12 martial. I'm a bit ticked off and ragequit-ed after that since so far my composition has not been a problem dominating the eastern steppes and the region of Khiva and Turkestan, even against same sized armies. I started as Otuken in Charlemagne and was able to become the Mongol Empire in about 40 years no problems. I'm usually not one to min/max army composition since I always though that : decent generals + decent army variety will be fine. Maybe I stepped over an invisible threshold. Anyway, I was going at speed 3 so it was over before I could mouse over anything combat related to see what was happening. Next time I load I'm just going to retreat back into my steppes and replenish the horde before heading out against in a second attempt against Khazaria. Another bit of info : I've got about 3 tiers of buildings in my capital built for stuff related to Horse Archers attack and defense, perhaps it's just a thing where the enemy built a poo poo-tons of Capital upgrades and I didn't? In any case it shouldn't even be a problem to rush build some since I'm still making about 50 a month with my horde reinforcing. Thanks Khiva!
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StarMinstrel posted:Anyone know where the current Meta is for Horde army composition? I just got absolutely TROUNCED fighting another horde. We're talking doing barely 5% damage VS losing in about 5 days. The setup was about as follow : Me : 10 000 strong, probably about 3 000 Horse Archers, 2 000 Heavy Cavalry, and 5 000 Light Cavalry, more or less. We were both fighting in Steppe terrain and I was the attacker, with no Bonus or Malus on either side. My leaders had 19, 21 and 18 martial respectively, with I believe only one having Inspiring leader in the center, the rest I'm not sure if they even had a proper martial trait. There was no Crazy Shinanigans on the other side, and in fact they had mostly average defenders averaging around 12 martial. What was their religion? Defensive pagans (Slavic, Romuva, Suomenusko, and West African) get a MASSIVE defensive bonus for fighting in counties of their religion (which if they are nomads, will be all of their nomadic territory).
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You want as few different types of units as possible. And horse archers suck, as I understand it. Best to just go 100% light cavalry unless you can get a ton of heavy cavalry. What kind of bonuses do your commanders have? A guy with 16 martial skill and no modifiers isn't better than a guy with 9 skill and defense/morale/terrain buffs.
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Really? Horse archers were super strong a while ago. When did they get changed?
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The Cheshire Cat posted:What was their religion? Defensive pagans (Slavic, Romuva, Suomenusko, and West African) get a MASSIVE defensive bonus for fighting in counties of their religion (which if they are nomads, will be all of their nomadic territory). Just checked and they are Sunni. They were Tengri a few generations ago so I guess they changed recently. They pursued my retreating army, I mixed in my vassals troops in, so everything was a bit more balanced (so had a tiny bit of Archers, HI, LI and such added to the LC, HC and HA). This time it was much less closer for a win on my side. But I'm still really not sure what happened at first. I'll try again and keep a close eye on the battle log as it happen to see what are the percentage of change of tactics. I'm curious though as to why Horse archers are bad with Horde, seeing as isn't that what most players would build in decent quantity as a horde player just by instinct? I'm curious as to what changes made it be at a place where LC and desired over it. @Various, I thought they had nerfed 100% tailored armies recently and introduced really bad tactics to counteract that. I'm really not sure. edit: here are the proper numbers : 3350 LC, 2100 HC, 4800 HA. I'll hire a bit more Heavy Vanguards to add more LC and HC. edit2: ended up winning with no more problems. I'm gonna assume RNG hosed the first tactics and I got some super horrible ones on top of the other side getting really good ones. Popoto fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Sep 13, 2016 |
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Ofaloaf posted:I was curious how the When The World Stopped Making Sense mod is doing these days. What the heck is Tabitian? Never heard of it and wikipedia and google show nothing.
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FreudianSlippers posted:What the heck is Tabitian? A CK2ism meant to denote the Scythian/Sarmatian religion, I think. The head of their pantheon was Tabiti, according to Herodotus anyway.
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Why not just use Tengiism? Why not just use a limited number of Germanic cultures for multiple tribes, instead of one culture per tribe where half of them are copy/paste jobs of Gothic anyways? If a catch-all 'Slavic' culture is okay, then why do Romans need several bajillion variants? Why is there both Aesti and Estonian? All these questions and more shall never be answered.
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Ofaloaf posted:Why not just use Tengiism? The Tabiti thing makes some kind of sense. Tengriism is a totally different religion originating farther east, while the Scythian/Sarmatian religion was descended from the pre-Zoroastrian Persian religion. If you're making what is more or less a Late Antiquity mod, giving the Sarmatians their own flavor isn't out of place as they were rather important. Also, I'm sure the  aspect adds to the appeal.The rest, well, the world wonders.
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Ofaloaf posted:Why not just use a limited number of Germanic cultures for multiple tribes, instead of one culture per tribe where half of them are copy/paste jobs of Gothic anyways? You'd think there'd be one weird Russian guy who splits Slavic up into 25 different one province cultures and when asked why gives a huffy, strangely translated response that might be some New Chronology style weirdness.
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In that middle culture map is a dark magenta-ish culture. It's called "Lebus", it's in the province of Brandenburg and only the province of Brandenburg, and it's an East Germanic culture that shares the exact same nameset as 5 other cultures.
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Actually as far as troop composition you should probably just dismiss me as some random poster on the internet since that's exactly where all my information comes from. Keeping track of the balance changes in this game across patches and expansions is not easy.
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Recently they changed troop types to a degree I still don't understand. Now archers aren't as good and pikemen are the best for sieging.
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According to some big data thing I saw a while back, horse archer retinues are among the worst in the game unless they're led by a commander who is both Altaic and Tengri, in which case they're acceptable. It's a bit out of date. .though, so I don't know if there have been significant changes since then, but it's post-horse archer nerf at least.
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Obviously the answer is still "pikemen with a side of pikemen"
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Yeah, the recommended mix if you didn't have a cultural super-retinue from what I saw was four Defense, two Shock, and one Skirmish, which results in a 20:10:9 pikeman:archer:heavy infantry mix.
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Ofaloaf posted:In that middle culture map is a dark magenta-ish culture. It's called "Lebus", it's in the province of Brandenburg and only the province of Brandenburg, and it's an East Germanic culture that shares the exact same nameset as 5 other cultures. I feel like I need to defend my position of "give more more cultures and poo poo," namely, if there's so little difference that you just copy it over from another culture or whatever, maybe, just maybe, it's unnecessary.
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Ofaloaf posted:I was curious how the When The World Stopped Making Sense mod is doing these days. It amuses me greatly that they called a duchy 'Reqt'. In regards to army compositions, Scottish Pikemen still reign supreme. Although I do love my berber light cavalry doom stacks. A Tartan Tory fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Sep 13, 2016 |
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Is it me or is it weird that the Vandal kingdom is so tiny compared to the roaming desert tribes. I mean those guys made quite an impact at the time, but uh. They weren't exactly landholders.
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Top Hats Monthly posted:Is there a list of ways people get executed, I killed someone with a boar C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Crusader Kings II\common\execution_methods Or, well, wherever you installed the game in \Crusader Kings II\common\execution_methods. There's a text file with the code for how it decides what execution methods to use, and there's a lot of them. Boar's a pretty rare method unless you're both Cruel and a Hunter, and is only available to rulers in Europe (there's an Indian equivalent but with a tiger, and likewise a lion one for Africa, plus a bear for everywhere except India and Africa), so congrats. Either you're really lucky, or you're an rear end in a top hat hunter. If the latter, your character can also personally hunt people down as a method of execution sometimes, as well as flay them, in addition to the aforementioned bear, so have fun. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Sep 13, 2016 |
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I hadn't played CK+ in a while but this Carolingian Empire setup is light years ahead of the default 867 bookmark. Ditto with the pre-schism Chalcedonian Christianity.
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Demiurge4 posted:I had a pair of identical twins in my college biology class. They both had leukemia when they were 7. https://youtu.be/Q950bc2Yoz0
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How bad is "Truce Breaker" ? I need to grab 5 more provinces from the HRE to reform the Roman Empire and I don't want to wait 50 years. No prospects for assassinating each Holy Roman Emperor at the moment to clear my truces...
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GreenMarine posted:How bad is "Truce Breaker" ? I need to grab 5 more provinces from the HRE to reform the Roman Empire and I don't want to wait 50 years. No prospects for assassinating each Holy Roman Emperor at the moment to clear my truces... You lose half of all the prestige you have plus another two hundred, and you get a diplo penalty for a few years. How bad it is depends on how much prestige you have on your current character, I guess.
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Roland Jones posted:C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Crusader Kings II\common\execution_methods Apparently the Aztecs are twice as likely to sacrifice someone if they're gay and four times as likely to stone them to death. Classy, Paradox. Also the chance of performing a live burial and walling someone up is more likely for Gardeners and Architects respectively, which sort of makes sense, but why is it more likely for a drunkard to drown someone in a butt of wine? OK, he's more likely to have it around, but at the same time he wouldn't want to waste it.
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Gay hearts are a better fuel source for the sun.
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GreenMarine posted:How bad is "Truce Breaker" ? I need to grab 5 more provinces from the HRE to reform the Roman Empire and I don't want to wait 50 years. No prospects for assassinating each Holy Roman Emperor at the moment to clear my truces... Set your chancellor to fabricate claims, since you can press multiple claims for yourself at once. In the truce from your first war, you should be able to fabricate multiple claims and get everything in two, maybe three wars. Alternatively (and incompatibly with my other suggestion), pick up Depressed somehow and break your truces in the other direction.
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Skellybones posted:Gay hearts are a better fuel source for the sun. Where's your Quetzalcoatl Hates Fags sign, huh?
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Jedit posted:Also the chance of performing a live burial and walling someone up is more likely for Gardeners Oh, THAT explains my seemingly inexplicable burying alive of my cheating, syphilitic wife as a guy who was not cruel/impaler.
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I didnt want to become the Emperor of Muslim Spain! I was playing the slow game! goddamnit! Though I do have direct control over a few kingdoms as opposed to all my vassals being dukes and counts so thankfully the slow game worked well.
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Ofaloaf posted:I was curious how the When The World Stopped Making Sense mod is doing these days. As a student of late antiquity, I have SO MANY problems with these pictures. The religious setup is insane and half the cultures appear to be in the wrong place. Also, I like how nearly every duchy in Germany has its own culture, but there's a single Slavic megablob stretching from the Black Sea to (almost) the Gulf of Finland. Mesopotamia one is okay, though. I'm sure I'd hate it more if I could see the culture/religion maps, but for quantity of provinces, it's pretty reasonable; there were a shitton of people living there in antiquity. Just needs a billion provinces in Egypt and Anatolia to balance it out (almost all of which could be removed from the Sahara, Jesus). Edit: Larry Parrish posted:Is it me or is it weird that the Vandal kingdom is so tiny compared to the roaming desert tribes. I mean those guys made quite an impact at the time, but uh. They weren't exactly landholders. Eh. One of the things about the Vandal kingdom in Africa is that it lost a lot of outlying land in the former Roman provinces to the Berbers. By the time Belisarius landed, it was largely reduced to Tunisia and some forts/coastal towns along the Algerian and Moroccan coastline. The Berbers themselves, or at least the ones who came to rule in the former provinces, were pretty Romanised and reasonably sophisticated; a lot of them probably didn't have their origins in "roaming desert tribes" so much as semi-Romanised local military units that just went self-sufficient and started running their own kingdoms once Roman power in north Africa had sufficiently withered. The Sin of Onan fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Sep 13, 2016 |
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