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pazrs posted:M/E air start bursting disc pops during maneuvering, what do you do? Turn to the captain and tell him that the engineers say "everything's hosed".
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I pretty much exclusively wear Carharts and a t shirt now. Flannel would be way too hot. I bring a long sleeve shirt for steam work but I always forget to put it on anyways. Coast Guard questions are even worse the second time you try to go through them. Maybe I'll just sail second forever.
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Just got on a ship. I have a box of Franzia and a handle of Absolute the previous 2nd left in my fridge. The case or two of beer scattered around the room isn't really worth mentioning.
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Took a short term job on an ROS ship - it's not terrible or challenging but wow it sucks away the last tiny iota of nautical romance that even the most mundane shipping job still has. For the first time in my life I think I envy my brother who has a desk job. I have no idea how anyone can do this 50 weeks a year for decades or whatever - especially the ones who still have homes across the country they never ever see. It's nice in a way though to see that even in 2016 actually sailing does have a certain ineffable element though, even if it's only obvious in its absence!
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Aug 22, 2016 04:41
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Is that on an MSC ship? I can relate though, I've been out for a couple months on workers comp and still have at least another couple to go so I'm stuck watching the tugs and ships in my harbor longingly.
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Aug 22, 2016 06:19
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shovelbum posted:Took a short term job on an ROS ship - it's not terrible or challenging but wow it sucks away the last tiny iota of nautical romance that even the most mundane shipping job still has. I seem to keep getting jobs where I'm sitting still... Did 4 months on an ship in Diego Garcia last year, then a 2 week "breakout" where we moved 100 feet to the right so another ship could go to drydock, then a decommissioning where we sat at the dock boxing things up and my last ship was a commissioning where we took things out of boxes for 2 months (Some of the DC gear was the same stuff I boxed up on the other ship  ). Though we did finally get underway for testing, and it was pretty nice. Having scientists on board is a pain in the rear end but we got to go to St. Thomas so it was totally worth it.
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Aug 22, 2016 10:12
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Glad I didn't love that job because it ended suddenly! The joyous life of a sea temp...
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Aug 22, 2016 14:37
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Go hang out in Honolulu at the Doghouse and daywork out of the hall. It should be ok to ship out of, the locals let a lot of decent jobs go so they can surf. I'm making around 1k/day as 2nd right now, maybe a little more. Job is sweet. I've avoided those ROS jobs since they are almost always somewhere lovely I don't want to go.like LA. Radio operator on here says that the ARA is looking for a lot of people, more so as they just got a contract with APL. 2nds pay with contractual OT and I've never seen them break a sweat. lightpole fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Aug 22, 2016 |
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Aug 22, 2016 17:43
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This one was right here in Norfolk so I was back to the hall in half an hour without regrets. This hall is pretty decent ever since Maersk moved over here, it's a lot less people than New York but still has jobs and a decent amount of night work. edit: I had no idea anyone but Matson had Radio Operators!
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Aug 23, 2016 00:04
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I still can't believe that radio operators are still a thing in the age of GMDSS and V-Sat. Sounds cake as gently caress. I'd be all over that if I had US papers.
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Aug 23, 2016 00:12
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FrozenVent posted:I still can't believe that radio operators are still a thing in the age of GMDSS and V-Sat. Are they just ETOs by any other name now? I remember the one when I was a cadet with Matson doing a lot of electronics. I've definitely met a container ship electrician who struggled with anything harder than plugging in reefers, so it might be a good idea since I guess engineers really can't touch electrical stuff on union jobs.
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Aug 23, 2016 00:15
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We still have them on government ships with secure comms. Somebody's got to keep track of all that bullshit.
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Aug 23, 2016 00:16
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do you need to speak french to work for the Canadian Coast Guard?
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Aug 23, 2016 23:00
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At the higher levels I think some position have a bilingual requirement, but unless you're in the Quebec area I don't think it's a requirement for unlicensed and junior officers. The Quebec boats only work in French though, pretty much the only seagoing organization in Canada that does that.
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Aug 23, 2016 23:39
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never happy posted:do you need to speak french to work for the Canadian Coast Guard? Depends on the region doing the hiring. Western region requires you speak English, no need for Francais. FrozenVent posted:At the higher levels I think some position have a bilingual requirement, but unless you're in the Quebec area I don't think it's a requirement for unlicensed and junior officers. It's got to be quite high in the office before you hit the bilingual requirements, much higher than a Supernintendo job. There are plenty of Anglo only captains and chief engineers rolling around the West coast.
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Aug 23, 2016 23:59
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Was thinking of the icebreakers in St. John's
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never happy posted:Was thinking of the icebreakers in St. John's I'd suggest phoning up wherever these icebreakers are based out of and asking to speak with a crewing officer. That is, if you're really so interested in working for them that you'd be ok with not being paid. Chances are, if hired, you won't be given any choice in type of vessel you're assigned to, and it's a total dice roll when or if you see the right amount of pay. (Could be zero, could be $20,000 more than you expected. Both have happened recently to people I know in the CCG)
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Aug 24, 2016 18:56
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That's not limited to the coast guard, that's really the entire federal government these days though.
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Aug 24, 2016 23:13
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FrozenVent posted:That's not limited to the coast guard, that's really the entire federal government these days though. true story
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Aug 25, 2016 00:15
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And you just know the guy that sold the government that software is making fat loving stacks, too.
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Aug 25, 2016 00:24
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FrozenVent posted:And you just know the guy that sold the government that software is making fat loving stacks, too. I don't think anyone bothered to explain that it's just named phoenix. They don't have to burn the whole loving thing down before it rises from the ashes.
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Aug 25, 2016 01:17
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FrozenVent posted:I still can't believe that radio operators are still a thing in the age of GMDSS and V-Sat. Mostly they just read everyone's email.
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Aug 25, 2016 16:09
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So Hanjin just tanked the entire global economy, right?
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Sep 2, 2016 01:52
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Nah, they just tanked themselves. They ain't the only carriers, someone will buy whatever asset they have that make sense and the rest will be scrapped, the reduced supply will allow the other carriers to bring prices back to reasonable demands and life will go on until it repeats itself. Its the way the shipping business works. Sucks for whoever has cargo on those boats right now, though.
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Sep 2, 2016 02:21
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Heard one Hanjin ship got seized in Singapore.
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Long time lurker, first time poster I have an almost shiny new MMC for OUPV Captain and I was qualified for OS when I applied for the credential. Are there any OS Jobs? How would I go about finding them? I've been applying for jobs on tugs via the company websites for the few companies that work around here (Wilmington, NC). Other than that, I have no idea. I have been working as a captain for a boat rental company, driving 6 or less passengers around the ICWW Island hopping and sight seeing, but that is really seasonal and spotty. I was hoping for long term, career type work, but I don't know if its worth starting as an OS. What can I expect for pay, if I can find a job? Would someone with an OUPV have an advantage over another OS candidate? I think I may be better off working as a mate in the off season on a smaller boat, and getting my 100 ton Maters next year and applying for jobs on a ferry or similar. Just looking into the offshore idea, and wondering if its at all feasible with no formal training, except the captains class. I have a 4 year psych degree, but that is beyond useless for anything. bandaid fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Sep 4, 2016 |
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bandaid posted:Long time lurker, first time poster Having a 6 pack will show that you have experience on the water and can tie some knots and know what the pointy end is, which is a big step over most of the guys coming in off the street. You will need "basic safety training" endorsement as well if you plan on sailing offshore on a commerical vessel, and you should consider getting your ab if you have the sea time, it will make you look a lot better on paper. There are jobs out there, i think its still a little difficult to find them though, especially with the price of oil still being low; which causes guys in the oil field to move to tugs. What worked for me for the 2 local companies i have worked for so far is to show up in person with a resume. I started at a marine construction company first at 15 dollars an hour, which wasnt so bad when we were running hitches and made 40 hours of overtime. Then i went to a real tug company, took a little pay cut to 180 a day, but working a better schedule. I have since moved up to 220 a day as the "engineer", i plan to move up to mate of towing within the next couple of years, which has an average pay of 400 a day. If you are still having trouble finding work you should increase your distance if you are serious about it. I know there are some local companies in morehead, and i work out of norfolk which has several small companies, and i know there are some out of Charleston and probably Savanah too. The hardest part is finding that first job. Also, i worked with a captain who worked on the NC ferries, he told me that he wish he hadn't. It was basically an easy retirement like gig with low pay. Sorry, i didn't mean to write a novel, but i really love what i do.
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Has anyone got a list of all the classes you've gotta take for license renewals? I'm a 3rd Mate Unlimited Tonnage.
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Sep 6, 2016 06:23
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If Hanjin goes bust what kind of effect will that have on global trade?
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Jumpingmanjim posted:If Hanjin goes bust what kind of effect will that have on global trade? Basically none. They're the seventh biggest container carrier, with 61 ships. I don't even think they have a double digit percentage of the world's capacity. It'll bring container rates back up, somewhat closer to sustainable levels (which they haven't been in years). I'd be surprised if it had any noticeable effect on global trade. If there's demand for their capacity, someone else will supply it (maybe even using Hanjin's ships).
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Goodtime Pancreas posted:Sorry, i didn't mean to write a novel, but i really love what i do. I appreciate it. I also did Marine Construction at $15/hour. I will probably just end up doing that for the winter if I don't get this job as a mate on a 49 passenger inspected vessel I know some people at. Marine Construction actually pays more than that, but its 40 hours, if the boss isn't off hunting, and some of the jobs have been setting pilings by hand in waist deep black mud in February. I am willing to travel, and some of the tug jobs I applied for are all over, but I think they are specifically not hiring OS. (McA...) I am planning on going for AB, but I think I may be qualified for it with a 100 tons Masters license? The capt who teaches the capt classes is a legend around here, and that might be the case. Its thru the community college and the program is great. My problem with AB isn't going to be the # of days, its going to be the tonnage of the vessels served. Edit: I know a few people in the NC Ferry system... its exactly what you described. One of them went right out of Marine Tech program at the CC. He was pissed when he realized he just sat there all day doing nothing as engineering dept, and can't quit because quitting a state job looks terrible on your resume. bandaid fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Sep 7, 2016 |
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You will still need to take the ab class along with lifeboatman, but ab special has the same requirements as 100 ton master except there is no minimum tonnage needed for it. You won't need a larger ab endorsement unless you go work on osvs or atbs. Don't forget about dredging companies too, like weeks marine and great lakes drege and dock. I see gldd is hiring deckhands in Louisiana right now. If they don't pay travel i bet they at least pay a high enough rate to make it worth it. The work will probably suck, but its a foot in the door of the industry.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-08/its-bordering-chaos-14-billion-cargo-stranded-sea-crews-go-crazy-hanjin-ghost-ships Sounds like a loving party quote:But while manufactured cargo can survive indefinitely, crews on ships can not, and as Hanjin ships drift at sea, their crews face increasing uncertainties and diminishing supplies. “We usually have food and water for about two weeks,” said the captain of a Hanjin-operated ship speaking by satellite phone from the South China Sea. But, after 12 days at sea, “everything is getting tight—food, water and fuel,” he said.The captain added that he is rationing water and cutting back air conditioning to save energy.
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^That blows. Is there any chance they are getting paid, or will get paid? I guess getting off ship is more important, but still.Goodtime Pancreas posted:You will still need to take the ab class along with lifeboatman, but ab special has the same requirements as 100 ton master except there is no minimum tonnage needed for it. You won't need a larger ab endorsement unless you go work on osvs or atbs. I know 3-4 people at Weeks. I might do that, but I just took a job as a mate on a 49 passenger inspected vessel. If I can't deal with the cargo, I'll do the dredge thing, but this leaves me available next summer for the 6 pack captain job I had.
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"Bridge, Bow. Anchor at the water's edge and also we caught a boat..."
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I've got two questions for you guys. So about a month ago my 70 year old mom (and corporate executive) comes to me and asks me, because I'm a socialist so obviously know these things, if I can find a cruise for her where "they treat their people okay." In other words, my mom wants to go on a cruise, but since she pretends to be an ethical capitalist, she wants to spend extra money to go on a cruise where the crew are paid decently and aren't overworked. She doesn't really care where it's too. She just wants go somewhere on a boat. My brain tells me this means she's looking for a cruise line, or at least a cruise line with a few ships, that don't fly flags of convenience. So pretty much cruise ships flagged in first world countries. And since my interest in cruising is non-existent, but for my fascination with the Atlantic crossing and maritime history, my knowledge is limited to Cunard, who switched their flags from the UK to Bermuda a few years ago so that "they could have weddings" (yeah right). This brings me to this here post. My two questions for you guys are: 1. Do you know of any cruise lines that currently operate non-FOC ships? 2. Baring this, is what cruise lines have the best reputation for treating their crews well?
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ZombieLenin posted:I've got two questions for you guys. So about a month ago my 70 year old mom (and corporate executive) comes to me and asks me, because I'm a socialist so obviously know these things, if I can find a cruise for her where "they treat their people okay." The answer to both questions is none of them. The cruise industry is at the cutting edge of the worst excesses of globalization. Any impression of business ethics is purely lip service. It's a cut-throat industry, and any company that might have treated their crews well would have been driven out of business long ago.
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B33rChiller posted:The answer to both questions is none of them. The cruise industry is at the cutting edge of the worst excesses of globalization. Any impression of business ethics is purely lip service. It's a cut-throat industry, and any company that might have treated their crews well would have been driven out of business long ago. I don't know how well they treated their crews, but Cunard managed to stay UK flagged until 2012ish; however, this is what I suspected, but thought there might be some niche luxury line that tried to sell themselves based on their lack of a FOC. Shows you how much I know about the modern cruise industry.
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ZombieLenin posted:I've got two questions for you guys. So about a month ago my 70 year old mom (and corporate executive) comes to me and asks me, because I'm a socialist so obviously know these things, if I can find a cruise for her where "they treat their people okay." I hear good things about National Geographic Lindblad cruises, but I don't know enough to confirm.
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ZombieLenin posted:I've got two questions for you guys. So about a month ago my 70 year old mom (and corporate executive) comes to me and asks me, because I'm a socialist so obviously know these things, if I can find a cruise for her where "they treat their people okay." Holland America Line are all dutch flagged. Every cruise line treats their people like dogshit. So just hold your breath and pick the one that has the best itinerary
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