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Sep 12, 2016 17:35
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Pretty sure if GM's magnetic shocks were wearing out and needing replacement by 20k miles it would be well known by now. Major components needing to be replaced at ludicrously short intervals is more of a German engineering thing, GMs just murder you.
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Sep 12, 2016 17:47
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Powershift posted:I believe these are the MRC shocks/struts for the camaros. That's much more reasonable. They're probably $4k from a dealer though.
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Sep 12, 2016 17:53
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fknlo posted:That's much more reasonable. They're probably $4k from a dealer though. Regular shocks are probably $1k from a dealer. Dealers are scum. edit: GT350R magneride struts/shocks are $650/$550 a piece from ford. Regular GT350 struts/shocks are $231/191 from ford. Powershift fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Sep 12, 2016 |
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Sep 12, 2016 17:55
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BloodBag posted:R8 guys with the Audi magnetic ride are saying that these wear out at an accelerated rate due to the iron particles in the oil abrading the sealing surfaces much faster than a common shock would. Like, new shocks at 20,000 miles fast. They are saying that this particular system is produced by Delphi. I've heard that from a couple of sources now. I asked a Ford engineer about that at the Focus RS drive and he said there can be problems but there's been a lot of work recently to improve the tech, including using smaller and less abrasive particles. I still maintain that the best damped cars I've driven have all had conventional valved dampers not magnetorheological ones.
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Sep 12, 2016 19:09
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It kind of seems to me that with modern cars and their million different modes and customization settings for suspension, steering, throttle response, etc. that cars don't come from the factory with one super dialed-in setting. Rather than trusting the engineers and testers to find a good balance between all those factors, they just say "well you can configure it however you want!", except that most people are not automotive chassis engineers. Especially for something not-exotic, just give me one really well-configured set up and ditch all the complicated whizzbangery that will eventually cost thousands of dollars to repair/replace.
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Sep 12, 2016 19:20
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Guinness posted:It kind of seems to me that with modern cars and their million different modes and customization settings for suspension, steering, throttle response, etc. that cars don't come from the factory with one super dialed-in setting. Rather than trusting the engineers and testers to find a good balance between all those factors, they just say "well you can configure it however you want!", except that most people are not automotive chassis engineers. The problem is that the standard base setting is designed to save 99 out of 100 buyers from themselves. Just one setting would be soft understeer because most of the guys who buy interesting cars are 90 and terrified by oversteer.
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Sep 12, 2016 19:31
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Powershift posted:The problem is that the standard base setting is designed to save 99 out of 100 buyers from themselves. Just one setting would be soft understeer because most of the guys who buy interesting cars are 90 and terrified by oversteer. It's worth noting that Porsche's factory suspension alignments have trended towards understeer for twenty years now. In a 911. With a 40/60 weight distribution.
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Sep 12, 2016 20:02
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I wouldnt criticize them for that move, considering porsches 80s rep.
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Sep 12, 2016 21:38
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Guinness posted:It kind of seems to me that with modern cars and their million different modes and customization settings for suspension, steering, throttle response, etc. that cars don't come from the factory with one super dialed-in setting. Rather than trusting the engineers and testers to find a good balance between all those factors, they just say "well you can configure it however you want!", except that most people are not automotive chassis engineers. I figured it comes down to cost. Why spend many expensive engineering hours designing and perfecting a complex multi-link mechanical suspension that compensates for all manner of driving conditions, when you can throw some struts and a torsion beam in there, an off the shelf stability control system, and who cares if it handles poorly at the limit, the ASC will bail you out well before that.
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Sep 12, 2016 21:50
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KidDynamite posted:The 1LE does have the front Brembo's but yeah missing out on the magnetic ride is pretty lame. I think the V6 1LE has four piston brembos while the SS 1LE gets monster six piston front brakes.
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Sep 13, 2016 04:08
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Autoblog posted:Ford has kept the 2017 F-150 Raptor's specifications close to the chest. So much so, that there's still no word on how much power the truck's engine will make and the vehicle is expected to come out this fall. A FordRaptorForum.com user managed to capture some screenshots from Ford's eSourceBook application that reveals the upcoming Raptor's engine specifications. Unsubstantiated rumors but a 450 HP stock Raptor makes me really want one
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Sep 14, 2016 01:03
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drat, ford has an amazing spread of engines nowadays, don't they? It seems like each one has a competitor inhouse, at least on paper. They're really killing it.
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Sep 14, 2016 02:25
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Shame ford parts fail and don't have stock? This story reminds me of friends expedition that was 6 years old and the computer controlling abs and stability control failed and was $700. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2016/09/ford-gives-search-part-mans-seven-year-old-f-150/
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Sep 14, 2016 02:45
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For the first time ever? you will be unable to purchase a Ford car that is made in the USA. Yes I know it's silly to talk about "nationalities" of car makers nowadays, it's always complicated, but still an interesting historical milestone:quote:Ford (F -1.5%) announces it will move all of its small-car production to Mexico over the next two to three years.The decision was revealed today by CEO Mark Fields at Ford's Investor Day event.Though the strategy is likely to become a political season talking point, it falls in line with a general trend in the automobile industry to send low-margin production to Mexico and increase the focus on SUV and truck output in the U.S.
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Sep 14, 2016 18:16
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They're not moving the Mustang are they? I'm quibbling but the Taurus based Police Interceptor is still being built as well last I heard.
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Sep 14, 2016 19:13
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Is the non-fleet Taurus dead? What's the deal there? The large car segment matters so little they don't even have to have an entry?
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Sep 14, 2016 19:16
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Twerk from Home posted:Is the non-fleet Taurus dead? What's the deal there? The large car segment matters so little they don't even have to have an entry? Yeah, the 2016 is the last year of the Taurus. I read somewhere Ford found the market segment moving towards CUV/SUV like the Edge instead.
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Sep 14, 2016 19:52
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China gets the new Taurus, we don't. Because they felt it wasn't even worth the trouble chasing the tiny pool of sales that is the full size sedan market.
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Sep 14, 2016 21:20
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They should be chasing the tiny sales pool of the fusion wagon. 
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Sep 14, 2016 21:34
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El Scotch posted:They should be chasing the tiny sales pool of the fusion wagon.  Not bad looking.
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Sep 14, 2016 21:36
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D C posted:
Why the gently caress can't I just buy this right now? Take my money! It's not like I need dealerships to keep 20 in stock with different options. I'm happy to say order me this car with these options and I will pay the price for it. One 2017 Fusion Sport Wagon please.
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Sep 14, 2016 21:52
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davebo posted:Why the gently caress can't I just buy this right now? Take my money! It's not like I need dealerships to keep 20 in stock with different options. I'm happy to say order me this car with these options and I will pay the price for it. One 2017 Fusion Sport Wagon please. You will buy an Explorer or Edge and like it.
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Sep 14, 2016 22:05
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How is it that Honda and Toyota can make make their small cars in Ohio, Indiana, and Kentucky (and Canada), yet Ford needs to move production to Mexico?
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Sep 15, 2016 00:11
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davebo posted:Why the gently caress can't I just buy this right now? Take my money! It's not like I need dealerships to keep 20 in stock with different options. I'm happy to say order me this car with these options and I will pay the price for it. One 2017 Fusion Sport Wagon please. Funny how this is the common argument but nobody actually buys them when they are around.
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Sep 15, 2016 00:14
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I'm probably going to go against all common sense and buy a loving Volkswagen when they launch the Golf AllTrack with the manual transmission that they've promised. It just loving sucks that the only car that ticks all the boxes (AWD manual wagon) is a god drat VW.
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Sep 15, 2016 00:20
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Bovril Delight posted:Funny how this is the common argument but nobody actually buys them when they are around. turn left thread, nooo
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Sep 15, 2016 00:49
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This thing popped up on my Youtube feed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j27bi3CnhvE http://www.caradvice.com.au/420210/2017-toyota-c-hr-revealed-australian-debut-on-the-cards/
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Sep 15, 2016 00:56
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Q_res posted:China gets the new Taurus, we don't. Because they felt it wasn't even worth the trouble chasing the tiny pool of sales that is the full size sedan market. Isn't the new Chinese Taurus just a Lincoln Continental with a different hood ornament and option packages (because Lincoln doesn't exist there)?
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Sep 15, 2016 01:13
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D C posted:
I'm dryly amused because a little while after making my inane post, I found this was also posted today unbeknownst to me.
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Sep 15, 2016 01:24
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I'll probably end up doing something dumb like buying a Polestar V60 in a few years to satisfy my wagon craving
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Sep 15, 2016 03:38
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EnergizerFellow posted:Isn't the new Chinese Taurus just a Lincoln Continental with a different hood ornament and option packages (because Lincoln doesn't exist there)? More like the Lincoln Continental is pretty much the same as the old Taurus
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Sep 15, 2016 03:41
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Bovril Delight posted:Funny how this is the common argument but nobody actually buys them when they are around. Sure, I'll buy it. When it's five years old and on a certified pre-owned lot. 
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Sep 15, 2016 03:47
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go3 posted:I'll probably end up doing something dumb like buying a Polestar V60 in a few years to satisfy my wagon craving I see one across the street every time I grab lunch at this one place... and it's really starting to tempt me.
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Sep 15, 2016 03:49
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Tubesock Holocaust posted:Sure, I'll buy it. gently caress, why don't the manufactures just release a 5 year old model directly to the certified pre owned car lots. I think we're onto something here.
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Sep 15, 2016 03:52
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Bajaha posted:gently caress, why don't the manufactures just release a 5 year old model directly to the certified pre owned car lots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr6FklMc6B0
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Sep 15, 2016 03:54
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Bajaha posted:gently caress, why don't the manufactures just release a 5 year old model directly to the certified pre owned car lots. I think what you're thinking about is dodge, and dodge dealers. You can go in and buy a 4500lb car with a cast iron block pushrod V8 for $34,000.
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Sep 15, 2016 04:03
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A majority of the suv's are just 5-10 year old large car platforms with a new skin. Ford edge won't die.
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Sep 15, 2016 04:13
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Guinness posted:I'm probably going to go against all common sense and buy a loving Volkswagen when they launch the Golf AllTrack with the manual transmission that they've promised. Jesus man, don't do it. I'm selling my 2014 STI wagon, just buy that. It's a rare "unmodified" version too.
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Sep 15, 2016 06:43
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Zoom Zoom, motherfuckers
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Bovril Delight posted:Funny how this is the common argument but nobody actually buys them when they are around. I don't quite get this argument. When was the last time Americans were given the opportunity to purchase a non-luxury wagon that had a decent amount of power but didn't get garbage mileage because it was a 4,000 lbs Dodge? The Volvo V60 is about as close as it comes but I'd still classify those prices as luxury.
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