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personable decorum
Sep 7, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
wearing my gang colours today

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Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
this isn't ylls

Koaxke
Jan 18, 2009

Kashuno posted:

this isn't ylls

Then why do ylls?

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Kashuno posted:

this isn't ylls

That thread with pictures from ylls was hilarious though,

The Saurus
Dec 3, 2006

by Smythe

runupon cracker posted:

Yeah, there's no way they could be giving up because it's hard, it has to be some mental incapacity. I mean heck, all they're doing is ignoring the mental pressure exerted by a primal instinct, strengthened by the body actively fighting against weight loss, for months or maybe years on end. What could be difficult about that?

Giving something up because "it's hard" kind of makes you a worthless pussy, I don't see why that should be a legitimate excuse for them??

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
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KVeezy3 posted:

I agree that obesity has more and more become a disease of the poor, but It's absurd to believe that ideal bodyweights are arbitrary. It's completely different from facial features, or hair types, because one discrimination is rooted entirely in superficiality and elitism, while the other is biologically toxic. Adipose tissue is a hormone secreting organ which an excess of leads to chronic low-grade inflammation, insulin resistance, heart disease, and cancer. It's not a coincidence that we feel disgust when we see abdominal fat when those are most linked to these afflictions. 70% of Americans are overweight; saying that the problem is people not accepting themselves is missing the symptom for the root problem.

Blaming the individual is short sighted, but you can't tell people they should just accept and love whatever they are either. It's a societal problem at this point, and all the fit-bits and motivational posters in the world won't help. See the video below for a more thorough examination.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nixR6wVa4HY&t=87s

Tying their self-worth to weight doesn't motivate them to do something about it. When people are happy and self-confident they will take feedback much better than when they are depressed and delusional. Obesity is most definitely a class signifier especially when it comes to women and that in turn is a way for people to judge them on their worth. As is women are already under a disproportionate amount of scrutiny on their appearance, and it is far, far more cultural than :biotruths: .

personable decorum
Sep 7, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Nothing wrong with riding a lil dirty BEEN SAYING IT FOR YEARS

LethalGeek
Nov 4, 2009


I mean look at this poo poo. A whole bunch of words for "my friends like me but they aren't attracted to me but instead I'll blame everything else for this instead of taking some responsibility for my actions. Plus a nice dose of shamming thin women lol

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Fat people are not attractive. That's just a fact. It's a visual sign you have no self control or disciple and who would want to get with that?

Fat Shat Sings
Jan 24, 2016

runupon cracker posted:

Yeah, there's no way they could be giving up because it's hard, it has to be some mental incapacity. I mean heck, all they're doing is ignoring the mental pressure exerted by a primal instinct, strengthened by the body actively fighting against weight loss, for months or maybe years on end. What could be difficult about that?

Look, I agree that people shouldn't give up on something just because it's hard. But what I don't get is why it's somehow considered bad to acknowledge that it is hard for nearly everybody that does it. It was easy for you? Hey wow congrats on being the exception, but that doesn't mean that everybody who has real difficulty with it is somehow mentally ill.

usually people say that it's hard to give things up because of physical addiction, painful withdrawals or something.

What is hard in this case is not laying on your back like an animal dragging food into your mouth.

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk

Panfilo posted:

Tying their self-worth to weight doesn't motivate them to do something about it. When people are happy and self-confident they will take feedback much better than when they are depressed and delusional. Obesity is most definitely a class signifier especially when it comes to women and that in turn is a way for people to judge them on their worth. As is women are already under a disproportionate amount of scrutiny on their appearance, and it is far, far more cultural than :biotruths: .

Preaching acceptance of different bodyweights is still tying self worth to bodyweight. It's just adding cognitive dissonance to the dish. When you tell people to be happy and self confident in their excessive bodyweight, you're telling them to ignore the warning signs of impending metabolic diseases.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Koaxke posted:

Then why do ylls?

obesity

Tinestram
Jan 13, 2006

Excalibur? More like "Needle"

Grimey Drawer

The Saurus posted:

Giving something up because "it's hard" kind of makes you a worthless pussy, I don't see why that should be a legitimate excuse for them??

you shouldn't give up something just because it's hard, he said for the nth time

but that doesn't make it not hard

Tinestram fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Sep 15, 2016

Tinestram
Jan 13, 2006

Excalibur? More like "Needle"

Grimey Drawer

Fat Shat Sings posted:

usually people say that it's hard to give things up because of physical addiction, painful withdrawals or something.

What is hard in this case is not laying on your back like an animal dragging food into your mouth.

you don't have to lay on your back like an animal dragging food into your mouth to become obese

edit: or maintain your current weight, for that matter

Tinestram fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Sep 15, 2016

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
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KVeezy3 posted:

Preaching acceptance of different bodyweights is still tying self worth to bodyweight. It's just adding cognitive dissonance to the dish. When you tell people to be happy and self confident in their excessive bodyweight, you're telling them to ignore the warning signs of impending metabolic diseases.

Its actually the opposite. You're assuming someone is expected to be happy and confident because of excess bodyweight, but I never said that. I also never said for them to ignore the warning signs of health problems either. I said that when people feel good about themselves, they are motivated to make positive changes.

Falling back to concern trolling is a flimsy move. You, nor many people in this thread really care about people getting healthy. You just don't like the way fat people look. Its easier for you to complain about other people than to empathize with them.

I feel bad for goons with young daughters, because they're gonna be pretty hosed up one way or another.

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx

Panfilo posted:

Tying their self-worth to weight doesn't motivate them to do something about it. When people are happy and self-confident they will take feedback much better than when they are depressed and delusional. Obesity is most definitely a class signifier especially when it comes to women and that in turn is a way for people to judge them on their worth. As is women are already under a disproportionate amount of scrutiny on their appearance, and it is far, far more cultural than :biotruths: .

your theory in a nutshell is that positive reinforcement better leads people to make changes than negative reinforcement

my theory is that positive reinforcement just leads people to be happy with who they are and unmotivated to make positive change

now which of our theories has been borne out by evidence in society over the past 20 years

stump collector
May 28, 2007

notZaar posted:

It can be mentally taxing to stop eating bad food to some people. "Comfort food" is real, you get into the habit of eating certain foods to calm anxiety and stress and become dependant on it. At that point you need coaching or help to change your thinking.

i'm not fat but i probably will be eventually because my eating habits are as retarded as my posts

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk

Panfilo posted:

Its actually the opposite. You're assuming someone is expected to be happy and confident because of excess bodyweight, but I never said that. I also never said for them to ignore the warning signs of health problems either. I said that when people feel good about themselves, they are motivated to make positive changes.

Falling back to concern trolling is a flimsy move. You, nor many people in this thread really care about people getting healthy. You just don't like the way fat people look. Its easier for you to complain about other people than to empathize with them.

I feel bad for goons with young daughters, because they're gonna be pretty hosed up one way or another.

Fat people don't like how fat people look. No amount of delusion will bypass that fact. Disgust at excess bodyfat transcends all cultures and periods of time, maybe you should consider what that means rather than taking offense on behalf of all the little girls.

KVeezy3 fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Sep 15, 2016

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
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KVeezy3 posted:

Fat people don't like how fat people look. No amount of delusion will bypass that fact. Disgust at excess bodyfat transcends all cultures and periods of time, maybe you should consider what that means rather than taking offense on behalf of all the little girls.

If that were so true then social darwinism would sort the problem but again, the opposite is happening. It's an awful broad brush to be painting people with. Got any other No True Scotsman fallacies you want to share? :allears:

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time

Panfilo posted:

If that were so true then social darwinism would sort the problem but again, the opposite is happening. It's an awful broad brush to be painting people with. Got any other No True Scotsman fallacies you want to share? :allears:

your fat fetish doesn't make it any less true

NomChompsky
Sep 17, 2008

KVeezy3 posted:

Fat people don't like how fat people look. No amount of delusion will bypass that fact. Disgust at excess bodyfat transcends all cultures and periods of time, maybe you should consider what that means rather than taking offense on behalf of all the little girls.

I see a ton of fat people in relationships and marriages so this can't be 100% true.

personable decorum
Sep 7, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
so did i ever tell you i was a freelancer once in a population with many disorders

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time
Is someone gonna have to explain the concept of settling?

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx

KVeezy3 posted:

Fat people don't like how fat people look. No amount of delusion will bypass that fact. Disgust at excess bodyfat transcends all cultures and periods of time, maybe you should consider what that means rather than taking offense on behalf of all the little girls.

guys don't you realize there's an epidemic of anorexia among 10 year old girls and all other laughably un-cited assertions by certified chubby chaser and soc undergrad (redundant I know) panfilo

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
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NomChompsky posted:

I see a ton of fat people in relationships and marriages so this can't be 100% true.

It's a No True Scotsman fallacy.

If nobody finds fat people attractive, then the only people in relationships with fat people are delusional or not really attracted to them.

Carmant
Nov 23, 2015


Treadmill? What's that? Is that some kind of cake?


rap music posted:

ive lost about 40 lbs and now im disgusted by fat people

Seems like this is a common thing amongst extremely retarded failgoons.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time

Panfilo posted:

It's a No True Scotsman fallacy.

If nobody finds fat people attractive, then the only people in relationships with fat people are delusional or not really attracted to them.

or settled.

GORDON
Jan 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Carmant posted:

Seems like this is a common thing amongst healthy people

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Carmant posted:

Seems like this is a common thing amongst extremely retarded failgoons.

Can I see what you look like? I bet I'd be attracted to you.

NomChompsky
Sep 17, 2008

Everyone who is in a relationship "settles" to some degree. No one has a perfect relationship with a perfect person. Every quality that you personally possess adds up to positives and negatives to other people and ultimately their decision to be with you is on what you bring to the table as a whole. People don't date checklists.

People who are with others who are fat apparently don't find them disgusting as gently caress otherwise they wouldn't be with them. Fatness just doesn't bug them as much as it does you specifically.

Carmant
Nov 23, 2015


Treadmill? What's that? Is that some kind of cake?


LethalGeek posted:


I mean look at this poo poo. A whole bunch of words for "my friends like me but they aren't attracted to me but instead I'll blame everything else for this instead of taking some responsibility for my actions. Plus a nice dose of shamming thin women lol

Lot's of men will have sex with fat women but be ashamed to date them and talk bad about them behind their backs. We've had entire threads where it was nothing but guys (most were probably the same kind of broken brained former fat men that u see posting about their weight loss in this thread) talking about degrading fat women. It's disgusting and basically goes hand in hand with the kind of fat shaming you see here. You can't blame fat women for being upset about this.

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk

NomChompsky posted:

I see a ton of fat people in relationships and marriages so this can't be 100% true.

Bald people are in relationships and get married too. Disgust at male pattern baldness is also something that transcends all cultures and times. Baldness is linked to insulin resistance, heart disease and cancer. I bet this is a coincidence too.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time

Darth123123 posted:

Can I see what you look like? I bet I'd be attracted to you.

Imagine Danny Devito but add 50 pounds.

NomChompsky
Sep 17, 2008

KVeezy3 posted:

Bald people are in relationships and get married too. Disgust at male pattern baldness is also something that transcends all cultures and times. Baldness is linked to insulin resistance, heart disease and cancer. I bet this is a coincidence too.

Grats this is the most retarded post in the whole thread you win!

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

NomChompsky posted:

Everyone who is in a relationship "settles" to some degree. No one has a perfect relationship with a perfect person.

My girlfriend disagrees! :smug:

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
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Germstore posted:

or settled.

Explain BBW genre porn then. People are 'settling' with their porn watching habits too?

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
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I like to imagine some of the trolls in this thread showing up to Tinder dates with calipers and a luggage scale to make sure the women meet their exacting standards :spergin:

NomChompsky
Sep 17, 2008

I see you matched me on The Tinder. Before we engage in further planning and conversation would you please fill out this questionnaire?

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk

NomChompsky posted:

Grats this is the most retarded post in the whole thread you win!

You're on the side of someone who cites BBW porn as a victory for obesity.

Panfilo posted:

I like to imagine some of the trolls in this thread showing up to Tinder dates with calipers and a luggage scale to make sure the women meet their exacting standards :spergin:

What reality do you people live in? People make these physical judgements before they're even conscious of it.

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Aug 27, 2011
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