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Mailer posted:That's the part that was really making me mad at vidya games. I'm used to the usual crap with an NPC spawning, whipping around behind you then yanking you back in time over and over until you land or leave the system. It's super annoying and just a time tax on travel, but whatever. The thing I haven't experienced before was the teleport/plasma combo with a mass lock out to the max range of 5E sensors. I'm guessing they were also the magic cargo-spawned ones as well, possibly from carrying Modular Terminals, since reloading the game or jumping out/in didn't clear them. Some of the NPC-problems are routed in Frontier's weird balance: If you're an Elite-trader, for example, Frontier assumes you are also an incredible badass and can take down Elite Pythons and Anacondas with your dinky space freighter. For some irritating reason you get high-ranked large ships like FDLs even with a smaller ship. That's how my Asp died multiple times during my grind-engineers-and-collect-space-loot stage of preparing for my expedition to the other side of the galaxy. In two cases I died so fast I couldn't even look up what was attacking me! Edit: This poo poo is also what made me stop using a Federal Dropship as a smuggler vessel: The game looked at how much the FDS costs and then spawned ships far beyond my skill level and far beyond what my sad little tub could take. Also the buff to missiles, while nice, really did nothing good to armor-ships. 
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Something I forgot to ask: Did Frontier mention if you can dock up at stations with fighters? Because that would be kind of neat: While it wouldn't allow your fat tub to trade with outposts, you could dump exploration data and take/turn in missions. Sounds like it could be useful.
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Libluini posted:Something I forgot to ask: Did Frontier mention if you can dock up at stations with fighters? Sounds like a thing Frontier specifically wouldn't do then 
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Libluini posted:Some of the NPC-problems are routed in Frontier's weird balance: If you're an Elite-trader, for example, Frontier assumes you are also an incredible badass and can take down Elite Pythons and Anacondas with your dinky space freighter. That would probably explain it. Since I've been out here last I've gained a few trader ranks. Getting interdicted by FDLs and Anacondas to begin with can be harsh but with the teleportation drives they have it's pretty much instant shields down followed by switching to Task Manager. I'll see if anyone out in this end of space carries mines I guess. If that doesn't work I'll macro killing the program or something.
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Sep 15, 2016 11:25
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I don't think you'll be able to. But I still think the best deployable would be a cargo tug to allow large ships to trade and refuel at small stations.
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Sep 15, 2016 11:53
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Strategic Tea posted:I don't think you'll be able to. But I still think the best deployable would be a cargo tug to allow large ships to trade and refuel at small stations. God, just this would be a massive quality-of-life-thing that would add tons of playability to the game. Honorable mention should also go to:
And presto! Much better game.
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Mailer posted:That would probably explain it. Since I've been out here last I've gained a few trader ranks. Getting interdicted by FDLs and Anacondas to begin with can be harsh but with the teleportation drives they have it's pretty much instant shields down followed by switching to Task Manager. I'll see if anyone out in this end of space carries mines I guess. If that doesn't work I'll macro killing the program or something. One thing I noticed: Sometimes NPCs wait for you do something first, giving you time to orient your ship and spool up your FSD. If you do that first and only then boost away and vomit mines, chances are you'll make it. Just make straight ahead and only use lateral thrusters to evade, so you don't turn away from your jump target. By the way, make sure the joystick-buttons you've assigned to lateral thrusters actually work. I say this for really no particular reason
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I haven't seen any teleporting insta-shield-destroying ships, but I have come across a fair amount of (in particular) Anacondas that are simply immune to death. They'll happily fly into my mines as good interceptors should, and they'll lose their shields and have explosions show up on the little target hologram… …but at 15–17% hull, they'll just say “nope” and not take damage any more no matter what. Their shields will regenerate (and then instantly go down again as they drive into more mines) but the hull will simply not budge. I've read that some of them will start deploying point defences once they get low on health, but that doesn't seem to be the case here sine they do take damage (just not to hull) and since the mines are obviously hitting. So I still wonder what's up with those ships.
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Tippis posted:I haven't seen any teleporting insta-shield-destroying ships, but I have come across a fair amount of (in particular) Anacondas that are simply immune to death. They'll happily fly into my mines as good interceptors should, and they'll lose their shields and have explosions show up on the little target hologram… The only thing i can imagine is the tip of the anaconda housing sub-targets that are a) already destroyed by mines and b) do not allow any blowthough damage so that all your mine-damage goes into compartments that cannot be damaged further. I dont know breach damage of mines, but actually it should be quite good, so its maybe a matter of the position and the vector of the breach? e: like, if you target shield gen with lasers you can basically shoot that location 30 minutes without killing him off since lasers dont have noteworthy AP and the "dead" generator blocks damage from going somwhere with actual hitpoints. Yolomon Wayne fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Sep 15, 2016 |
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Sep 15, 2016 14:03
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Hey, looks like some of you guys are famous: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EyYpK_Z5Go
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Nice piece of fish posted:God, just this would be a massive quality-of-life-thing that would add tons of playability to the game. At least I can thank my ED preorder for saving me from getting even remotely excited about NMS. Goddamit game devs, designing a procedural generator and then adding a bunch of zeroes to the output is not loving gameplay.
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Voyager I posted:At least I can thank my ED preorder for saving me from getting even remotely excited about NMS. Somewhere consumers got really confused and started believing that "procedural generation" means lots of new unique stuff instead of "lots of the same stuff with slight variations. " It's like suddenly the whole world forgot what Diablo levels were like.
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Paramemetic posted:Somewhere consumers got really confused and started believing that "procedural generation" means lots of new unique stuff instead of "lots of the same stuff with slight variations. " Every level of Diablo 1 was unique and interesting. Anyone who says differently never played the game and doesn't understand what true proc gen is capable of. If you want to see it in glorious action, look to Star Citizen and the greatness that's coming from that. Then take some time to learn what happens in actual game development and see how bad E:D is. Star Citizen already has 200x the content and immersion of E:D.
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grimcreaper posted:If you want to see it in glorious action, look to Star Citizen and the greatness that's coming from that. Then take some time to learn what happens in actual game development and see how bad E:D is. Star Citizen already has 200x the content and immersion of E:D. Not sure if serious.
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grimcreaper posted:Every level of Diablo 1 was unique and interesting. Anyone who says differently never played the game and doesn't understand what true proc gen is capable of. If you want to see it in glorious action, look to Star Citizen and the greatness that's coming from that. Then take some time to learn what happens in actual game development and see how bad E:D is. Star Citizen already has 200x the content and immersion of E:D. Source your quotes
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Strategic Tea posted:I don't think you'll be able to. But I still think the best deployable would be a cargo tug to allow large ships to trade and refuel at small stations. The realism crowd should be all over it, because the game has already established that you can move cargo with small drones and controller modules rapidly. Why isn't every outpost equipped with a drone control tower that moves cargo to and from the cargo bays of ships too large to land?
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DatonKallandor posted:The realism crowd should be all over it, because the game has already established that you can move cargo with small drones and controller modules rapidly. Why isn't every outpost equipped with a drone control tower that moves cargo to and from the cargo bays of ships too large to land? Because where's the challenge in that? Much better to slowboat your medium-sized ship from across the bubble to enjoy that sweet 1k/ton profit. It requires planning and cunning, did I mention I'm an 84er therefore
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grimcreaper posted:Every level of Diablo 1 was unique and interesting. Anyone who says differently never played the game and doesn't understand what true proc gen is capable of. If you want to see it in glorious action, look to Star Citizen and the greatness that's coming from that. Then take some time to learn what happens in actual game development and see how bad E:D is. Star Citizen already has 200x the content and immersion of E:D.  But yeah shitizens actually believe this, mile wide, inch deep, etc. Their dreams are much better than this. If I want to practice shooting NPCs, is a viper mk.3 good enough or should I buy something bigger? And what would I put on it? My combat experience basically consists of shooting the targets in training missions and getting blown up by the first interdiction NPC when I was still in a Sidewinder. orcane fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Sep 15, 2016 |
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grimcreaper posted:Every level of Diablo 1 was unique and interesting. Anyone who says differently never played the game and doesn't understand what true proc gen is capable of. If you want to see it in glorious action, look to Star Citizen and the greatness that's coming from that. Then take some time to learn what happens in actual game development and see how bad E:D is. Star Citizen already has 200x the content and immersion of E:D. Eh, Diablo -1 was far better and didn't need procgen, instead the devs handcrafted every single one of the 256 levels. But I've heard Star Citizen will do both handcrafting and procedural generation, which means if they can pull this off, Star Citizen will be at least 200000x better than E:D. Luckily I'm immortal and have infinite money, so I can easily buy the 9 million Dollar super-computer we will need to run the drat thing when it comes out in 3333. Too bad about the alien invasion destroying mankind forever just two weeks before release, but I guess we can't have everything. Star Citizen will be awesome!
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TorakFade posted:Because where's the challenge in that? Much better to slowboat your medium-sized ship from across the bubble to enjoy that sweet 1k/ton profit. A (fourth) kind of fighter that deploys from a regular bay to load cargo. You get immersion, you get a ship specialisation tradeoff, you get to feel like you're flying some big fuckoff frigate with a dinghy for pleb sized ports
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Morter posted:Is there a popular one for HOTAS in particular? There is a new one called T.16000M FCS HOTAS coming out soon that has a lot of people excited.
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Mega Comrade posted:There is a new one called T.16000M FCS HOTAS coming out soon that has a lot of people excited. And if you're not sure if you will like a HOTAS, get the $50 Tflight HOTAS X. It is very capable for how cheap it is. I think most people around here with one are wanting to upgrade to the t1600
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Boogalo posted:And if you're not sure if you will like a HOTAS, get the $50 Tflight HOTAS X. It is very capable for how cheap it is. I think most people around here with one are wanting to upgrade to the t1600 Yeah I had the tflight hotas x, for £30 its pretty great. There is a new model which has PS4 support, it's exactly the same but double the price, so don't get that one.
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StarkRavingMad posted:To everyone complaining about NPC interdictions: don't get good. Get mines. I thought everyone was exaggerating about mines until I got annoyed enough with the continual interdictions due to having 4t of Modular Terminals on me and switched to all mines. Ye gads! And I could only fit class 1 mines because that's all they had where I happened to be! Do it now  I also thought someone said that the Asp managed to hit itself with mines at some point, but I guess that got fixed as it didn't seem to be a problem for me, thankfully Those getting near-insta-killed by high speed large ships, are you Elite at something and hence getting NPCs set on you with all the mods all the time or something? Expect a nerf to mines in 3..2..1...
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orcane posted:
Diamondback Scout is what you want. Yes it costs slightly more but it's a space apache gunship with amazing hardpoint locations, great pitch rate and jump range. People just overlook it because the shields are marginally worse. Trust me, it won't matter.
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DB Scout is the first ship i had fun in, in this game. And i find it hard to let go of. Love it to death. Mega Comrade posted:There is a new one called T.16000M FCS HOTAS coming out soon that has a lot of people excited. I meant HOTAS profiles to download, not the actual controllers to buy.
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legooolas posted:I thought everyone was exaggerating about mines until I got annoyed enough with the continual interdictions due to having 4t of Modular Terminals on me and switched to all mines. Ye gads! And I could only fit class 1 mines because that's all they had where I happened to be! Do it now So much this. I've stopped caring about interdictions. Lasers streak up and drop my shields to 50% and then... the lasers stop. [quote] Those getting near-insta-killed by high speed large ships, are you Elite at something and hence getting NPCs set on you with all the mods all the time or something? [/quite] Tycoon, but that seems to be high enough to spawn some heavily armed FDLs. The killer isn't the weapons, because weapons always hurt - it's the magic catchup that seems to be triggered by you running. That same magic works in your favor with mines as they engage their NPC Drives into an explosive trail. My shields are still gone, and one time I got shot through my shields and had my generator destroyed in the initial hit, but who cares because now they're a cluster of spare parts. Once they nerf mines I really will need that task manager hotkey. 
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orcane posted:
Get the Viper Mk. 4 if you're gonna get a Viper. The Mk. 4 can fit a bigger power plant, so you're not forced to strip down everything just so you'll have enough power for shields and weapons. On top of that, the 4 also has better FSD range and a larger fuel tank.
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Tippis posted:I've tried doing this with my custom HOTAS setup since it has a nasty tendency to reset a whole bunch of stuff if I forget to plug something in before I start. But it never seemed to show up in the preset list. Is there something magical you need to do to the binds file to make it show up properly, or did I just fumble it and put it in the wrong place (I don't remember if that's the location I was fiddling with)? Responding to my own post because the discussion made me go back and fiddle with it a bit more. It seems I missed the most obvious thing ever — on the second row of the binds file, there's an attribute to assign a name to the profile. I strongly suspect that I had skipped that part so it only ever showed up as “Custom” when I tried it before, which obviously was the same as the regular custom profile and the client probably just used the most recent file. 
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Boogalo posted:And if you're not sure if you will like a HOTAS, get the $50 Tflight HOTAS X. It is very capable for how cheap it is. I think most people around here with one are wanting to upgrade to the t1600 HOTAS X is great, I don't know why I would need a more advanced HOTAS. With using a button as a shift button I have more than enough buttons to do everything I want.
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Sky Shadowing posted:HOTAS X is great, I don't know why I would need a more advanced HOTAS. With using a button as a shift button I have more than enough buttons to do everything I want. For Elite, in particular, you don't actually need that many buttons. Once you've got your axes set up (which, admittedly, will take up a lot since it's a 6dof game), you can assign a ton of functions to just a few buttons since the game itself allows for all kinds of switch- or combination states. Above all, this means you don't have to install or run through
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I rank hotas's based on how many hat switches they have versus how many dollars they cost.
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DreadLlama posted:I rank hotas's based on how many hat switches they have versus how many dollars they cost. So in the end, the Warthog's ~$60/hat isn't all that competitive. Or should the cost be treated exponentially?
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Logitech purchased Saitek. Whether or not this means better quality remains to be seen. I have no complaints about the Logitech products I have purchased in the past. Obviously it will take some time for the first real products come out.
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IAmTheRad posted:Logitech purchased Saitek. So, what does that mean for Mad Catz? Is it just them selling off what they can to stay afloat after last year's troubles?
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Infidel Castro posted:Get the Viper Mk. 4 if you're gonna get a Viper. The Mk. 4 can fit a bigger power plant, so you're not forced to strip down everything just so you'll have enough power for shields and weapons. On top of that, the 4 also has better FSD range and a larger fuel tank. The MKIV is a big fat slow clumsy pig compared to the MKIII. For a cheap direct-combat ship I'd stick with the MKIII - the MKIV is honestly more fit for a 'multi-role ship that can slug it out a bit' type of a niche, like an alternate Cobra MKIII. Also putting in my two credits for the Diamondback Scout. I loved flying the Viper-3 back when it was The Heavy Fighter, but these days - sure, the DB-S isn't as fast as a Viper-3 but is ridiculously agile, can take a fair bit of punishment and has a beautiful weapon convergence. It also has a huge jump range for a fighter-type ship, making it considerably more pleasant to travel in. Also, one benefit of the Viper MKIII - since it's still running a class-3 thruster array, you can slap an advanced thruster module in there if gottagofast is your thing. Both the Diamondback-S and the Viper MKIV have class 4 thrusters and they don't make racing drives that big.
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Dear Thrustmaster, you said the E:D-HOTAS would be up for sale "in september". Its quite september, wheres my loving hotas? Seriously, i almost bought an x52 but decided to wait for yours, so let me give you money.
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I got my preorder VKB Gladiator Pro in the mail today. Broke it in flying the training sidewinder around asteroids while I rebound stuff. For instance my primary fire is now joystick button 18 because that's just how it is. That being said, it's beautiful and everything I wanted in a joystick.  Added bonus: the heavy but small footprint means it fits nicely at the end of my number pad-less ducky keyboard and doesn't interfere with my mouse movements. It's perfect for me. Didn't stop me getting my canopy blown out by a FDL though. Bit rusty
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Yolomon Wayne posted:Dear Thrustmaster, you said the E:D-HOTAS would be up for sale "in september". That was for Europe, apparently. In the US it doesn't ship till October 1st.
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