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But what if Hitler gave you a whole bunch and the other people complaining about it never gave you anything 
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I think we are all glossing over the fact that Patrick did background research into Allison's current boyfriend and I'm not sure if "prospective business associate" is just a legalize way to say "person you associate with" or maybe he's suggesting that she butter this guy up in order to secure funds.
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Sep 14, 2016 03:49
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Kind of waiting to see what he did with it, it might be "Max is actually a super awesome guy and really nice despite the horrendous first impression he gives"
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Sep 14, 2016 03:51
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Brought To You By posted:I think we are all glossing over the fact that Patrick did background research into Allison's current boyfriend and I'm not sure if "prospective business associate" is just a legalize way to say "person you associate with" or maybe he's suggesting that she butter this guy up in order to secure funds. I totally missed that the file was on that guy. I thought we were finally getting back to the secret conspiracy plot. Now this just seems petty as hell.
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Sep 14, 2016 05:09
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"Hey remember that conversation we had about time travel and Hitler? Well funny thing is it went the other way, Max is actually literally Hitler, he traveled forward in time. Go figure huh!"
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Sep 14, 2016 23:18
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Seriously? She went back to that guy?
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Sep 16, 2016 09:09
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gently caress ME IN THE rear end AHAHAHAHAHA FUKKKKKKKKK
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Sep 16, 2016 09:14
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Why would she apologize to that rear end in a top hat?
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Sep 16, 2016 09:15
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Air is lava! posted:Seriously? She went back to that guy? SynthOrange posted:gently caress ME IN THE rear end AHAHAHAHAHA FUKKKKKKKKK Piell posted:Why would she apologize to that rear end in a top hat? I read these posts and I still wasn't ready. Obviously there's some stuff that's been omitted, but 1: "I was rude, immature and unkind" is what she should be saying to the professor she said "gently caress you" to when he challenged her and 2: the information she's acting on came from someone she knows to be deeply manipulative and untrustworthy.
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Sep 16, 2016 09:27
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Some weird wish fulfillment going on here? Maybe?
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Sep 16, 2016 12:27
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Oh, come on. This is obviously headed somewhere. She's here because of the Max-related information that Patrick sent her, and Max being such an rear end in a top hat will make it easier for her to back off.
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Sep 16, 2016 13:47
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Well no, sure, of course it's going somewhere, it's just baffling
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Sep 16, 2016 14:56
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SynthOrange posted:gently caress ME IN THE rear end AHAHAHAHAHA FUKKKKKKKKK 
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Sep 16, 2016 15:24
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This is an abrupt transition. I want to believe that there will be a good payoff to this but I don't think there is. They really had her just go back to this guy.
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Sep 16, 2016 15:38
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If I had to guess I'd say she's setting him up for some potential blackmail or something to make him fund her Valkyrie thing. See! Allison learns that people won't always work together toward the common good, so sometimes you have to coerce the poo poo out the people who put down a black stone.
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Sep 16, 2016 19:30
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If so that's going to be a super weird position. I won't take money from you, weird shady mind reader dude! But I will take this information you have gathered and use it to extract other money from some other lovely guy.
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Sep 16, 2016 20:31
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Did...did her doctor/therapist tell her to do that?
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Sep 16, 2016 21:36
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This could have been better plotted, but here is what I think it happening: She is not there for money. She already tore up a check for an extorbant amount. I highly doubt she would get on her hands and knees immediately afterwards to beg from someone else, much less someone who she already thinks is a jerk. I am thinking our boy Max here is a BioDynamic with an ability to help people somehow, or owns something that can help people. And one of the things hammered in this chapter is that Alison thinks if you can help someone, you SHOULD, full stop. Brad even low key called her our on this when she was at the support group. The call to the doctor was to verify the information, possibly. Right now, she wants him to use his abilities to help people, and is willing to beg for it, and is even willing to follow the intel of someone she knows is not completely trustworthy. And this may dovetail into his complex about being told what to do (remember his reaction). All that said, shouldn't she have apologized before she told him what she had in mind, much less before he even let her into his house? EDIT: I came up with this mostly because the author can't be so dumb as to make it literally about money after her tearing up the check, right? Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Sep 16, 2016 |
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Unlucky7 posted:This could have been better plotted, but here is what I think it happening: If Bootstraps Boy is a superpowered individual without ever having hinted at it before, I am so fuckin' done with this comic.
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Sep 16, 2016 23:17
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can someone explain to me exactly what the strong female protagonist is trying to do in this narrative. like i get the impression her plan is to punch every domestic abuser in the world, her motivation is that her friend keeps donating all her organs, she's going to achieve this by going to a philosophy class, but killing every wife beater doesn't do anything to curb the need for donated organs, she should be funding medical research instead into growing organs in vats or i don't know kidnapping her friend and sending her to philosophy class until she stops compulsively donating organs. how do the organs fit into this. i am trying very hard to masturbate to this comic but my arousal is tempered by confusion and when i get confused i get angry
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Sep 16, 2016 23:28
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Nah you pretty much nailed it
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Sep 16, 2016 23:34
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If you're forgiving, the idea is that Feral made a deliberate choice to turn away from the violent aspect of her biodynamism, and instead worked out how she could apply it in the way that most directly helped people, and then dialed that up to its limit. The choice and the result was dramatic/horrifying enough that it has jarred Alison into trying to find some way to match it. She was already disillusioned with being a conventional hero, but had sort of given up and decided to be a normal person - Feral's choice convinced her that she had a moral responsibility to leverage her abilities as much as possible to help people, but she has no idea how to actually do it. Feral strategy, while shocking, was actually pretty straight forward- she's just using her remarkable healing to heal other people. Alison doesn't see such a clear path for herself, so she's milling around in university trying to work out what being good means, and how to do it. Right now, she has decided that than her physical strength, she can use her fame and fortune to drive an organization to help people in domestic violence situations. It's not terrible overall, but the actual presentation has been hugely messy and with big meanders like 'what if we just killed people?' and 'your dad has cancer' that don't exactly yield anything. The weirdest thing about this whole thing is that Alison has never really deliberately confronted and addressed the fact that her biodynamism is not actually useless for helping people. There are thousands of situations around the world every day where being essentially invulnerable and immensely strong would be a big help - she could be doing all sorts of rescue work, for instance, especially now she can fly. And this should be obvious, because she is a volunteer firefighter, but it has never been really mentioned or discussed that she could be doing that work dialed up to 11 instead of putting out apartment fires. We even see her help control the flood when Inferno explodes, but at no point does she seem to think 'Wait, I could do this to save people all the time!' It would be one thing if she dismissed it as being not effective enough, but she doesn't even really seem to dwell on it.
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The comic also completely overlooks the enormous social power Allison has just by being a famous celebrity. She could run for President, look at where we are now in reality.Ashcans posted:...but it has never been really mentioned or discussed that she could be doing that work dialed up to 11 instead of putting out apartment fires. We even see her help control the flood when Inferno explodes, but at no point does she seem to think 'Wait, I could do this to save people all the time!' It would be one thing if she dismissed it as being not effective enough, but she doesn't even really seem to dwell on it. Maybe the author just chooses not to do this because that's basically The Samaritan from Astro City. I wouldn't mind seeing her do this kind of thing though. Flesh Forge fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Sep 17, 2016 |
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Sep 17, 2016 02:24
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Flesh Forge posted:The comic also completely overlooks the enormous social power Allison has just by being a famous celebrity. She could run for President, look at where we are now in reality. Not until she's at least 35. Plus, remember, she's already explicitly said that it's horrible to have people looking to her for suggestions on what to do when she doesn't even know how government works.
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Sep 17, 2016 02:42
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Well yeah there's the legal age limit, that's true. She could still apply enormous influence though, just advocating dumb poo poo on Twitter/Facebook.
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Ashcans posted:The weirdest thing about this whole thing is that Alison has never really deliberately confronted and addressed the fact that her biodynamism is not actually useless for helping people. There are thousands of situations around the world every day where being essentially invulnerable and immensely strong would be a big help - she could be doing all sorts of rescue work, for instance, especially now she can fly. And this should be obvious, because she is a volunteer firefighter, but it has never been really mentioned or discussed that she could be doing that work dialed up to 11 instead of putting out apartment fires. We even see her help control the flood when Inferno explodes, but at no point does she seem to think 'Wait, I could do this to save people all the time!' It would be one thing if she dismissed it as being not effective enough, but she doesn't even really seem to dwell on it. There's a whole bunch about this in the comic, actually. Running around saving people on a grand scale is exactly what she used to do, but she's just not satisfied with that anymore. She doesn't want to just haul starfish off the beach, she wants to change the environment so they never get washed up there in the first place. It may be that what she's trying to do is actually impossible, and she should have just kept saving people, but she doesn't currently believe this. Flesh Forge posted:The comic also completely overlooks the enormous social power Allison has just by being a famous celebrity. She could run for President, look at where we are now in reality. Long-term, this is probably pretty much what she'd do. She's going to school so she can learn about society and the world and humanity and so on so that she can actually have some answers when people look to her for them. Becoming president would be a good way of gaining enough power to influence the world, but she's not going to aim specifically at that goal until she's decided that's the best way to deal with the world's problems. This is not necessarily a good way of dealing with things, but there you go.
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idonotlikepeas posted:There's a whole bunch about this in the comic, actually. Running around saving people on a grand scale is exactly what she used to do, but she's just not satisfied with that anymore. She doesn't want to just haul starfish off the beach, she wants to change the environment so they never get washed up there in the first place. It may be that what she's trying to do is actually impossible, and she should have just kept saving people, but she doesn't currently believe this. I think that is the point of her being a firefighter now - its a role that is explicitly not about intervening with people in violence but responding to reduce damage and injury as much as possible. But she has never apparently considered applying her potential to that role fully. If she is devoting time as a volunteer fire fighter, surely she could use that same time and save much more people as a hero. Flesh Forge posted:Maybe the author just chooses not to do this because that's basically The Samaritan from Astro City. I wouldn't mind seeing her do this kind of thing though.
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She could probably do a lot of good just by walking into private meetings, sitting down in a corner, saying "Don't mind me, I'm just observing. Please continue." and smiling encouragingly. The tricky bit would be figuring out which meetings to observe.
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her purpose will become clear in the next chapter "man of kleenex" in which she degloves clevin with her labia and the guilt and shame force her to join a convent
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Sep 18, 2016 04:51
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I'd be okay with that
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Ashcans posted:If you're forgiving, the idea is that Feral made a deliberate choice to turn away from the violent aspect of her biodynamism, and instead worked out how she could apply it in the way that most directly helped people, and then dialed that up to its limit. The choice and the result was dramatic/horrifying enough that it has jarred Alison into trying to find some way to match it. She was already disillusioned with being a conventional hero, but had sort of given up and decided to be a normal person - Feral's choice convinced her that she had a moral responsibility to leverage her abilities as much as possible to help people, but she has no idea how to actually do it. Feral strategy, while shocking, was actually pretty straight forward- she's just using her remarkable healing to heal other people. Alison doesn't see such a clear path for herself, so she's milling around in university trying to work out what being good means, and how to do it. Right now, she has decided that than her physical strength, she can use her fame and fortune to drive an organization to help people in domestic violence situations. so, feral wanted to do good in a different way, but then alison (the dumb bitch she is) thought "what?? helping people by not murdering them? what is this" and made feral's choice for her good comic
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Sep 18, 2016 18:44
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This comic stars the wrong philosophy student named Alison-something.
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Sep 19, 2016 21:54
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So he's some sort of nefarious plant/agent/supervillian?
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Stormgale posted:So he's some sort of nefarious plant/agent/supervillian? He's obviously the leader of a race of cat men. Look at how ridiculous his eyes look.
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Stormgale posted:So he's some sort of nefarious plant/agent/supervillian? I think what they're getting at is he has some incredible superpower, he just never did anything with it. Which is an interesting take (what if Spider-man actually committed to "Spider-man no more!", and indeed never gave a drat in the first place), but the problem is the comic's going way out of its way not to give any context to this scene other than "Alison wanted something and didn't get it".
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Sep 20, 2016 11:32
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Hmm, I think this is probably going somewhere pretty good.
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Sep 20, 2016 12:52
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Being given pretty much no clue what Allison is talking about really kills the dramatic tension in this scene, I think.
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Sep 20, 2016 14:55
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I agree. Sometimes you can jump into the middle of a narrative/scene and use it as a good way to engage readers curiosity, but you have to do it well otherwise it just makes it confusing to try and parse what is happening.
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Sep 20, 2016 15:03
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I don't mind that, and in fact it might end up making me forgive how Max was initially shown as a ridiculous caricature of a human being.
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So he's got some powers that could help other people, but he chooses not to use them for an altruistic purpose? Truly he is the man who loves his life. He is the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values.
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