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nex
Jul 23, 2001

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Grimey Drawer
last 4-5 goninzo posts :stonklol:

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evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

goninzo posted:

Read it again.

Nymblar has drank deeply from the koolaid, he runs gsol now. He has a personal interest in keeping The Mittani happy. I don't blame him for that. It had to get done.

What did hurt was the fact that he said he didn't think we could be friends anymore. But hey, internet spaceships before bros, after all.

i don't want to speak for nymblar but if one of my irl friends made a livejournal post itt about their hurt feelings about some personal matter like it was loving high school and the thing to do when you had a problem with somebody was to whine loudly that someone wasn't being your friend instead of an adult private convo you'd better believe I would be dropping them like a rock and seriously reevaluating my life and wondering what had gone so wrong in my decisionmaking that I was friends with someone that loving crazy

RhoA
Jul 20, 2014

#BATLivesMatter

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

goninzo posted:

Read it again.

Nymblar has drank deeply from the koolaid, he runs gsol now. He has a personal interest in keeping The Mittani happy. I don't blame him for that. It had to get done.

What did hurt was the fact that he said he didn't think we could be friends anymore. But hey, internet spaceships before bros, after all.

I don't know, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that maybe your Internet friend whom you've bought lunch for a time or two but who's relationship still ultimately revolved around a shared group experience doesn't really owe you a fair shake when you gently caress over that shared group.

I mean I bought Lucas Tigh a pizza once, I wouldn't expect him to give me a conciliatory handjob if I hosed off to PL.

Numismancer
Sep 15, 2004

by sebmojo

goninzo posted:

Funny you say that...

Now seems like an optimal time to quote this post for posterity; click the link to see the context and be amazed.

Neobdragon
Jun 30, 2013

RhoA posted:

#BATLivesMatter

facultas
Jan 2, 2004

No design, no conception.

goninzo posted:

You sure you don't want to compare me to a literal IRL hero repeatedly, just to show how bad of a person I am?

Even better is that, since Endie knows that what I say is true and that the entire Star Chamber over multiple generations was privy to his regular "Kismeteer is a giant gently caress-head" tirades over the years, he'll now have to to go out of his way to prove these heinous accusations to be false and be nice to you. Dude, it was bad when you were a GSOL director and in EG, it got way worse when you started doing stats. But maybe you'll even get lucky and score a public post from him about how you're really a good guy, how you really fit in, and how much value you add.

This in itself will be hilarious, because every kind word, every bit of ego soothing he'll have to do to you over time, will burn him up because of what he actually thinks about you. But he'll have to do it, or he'll be proving me right, again. So he'll be locked in with you, making you feel good, and hating it the whole time. And I'm sorry, but that's just hysterical.

I don't want you to be unhappy in PL or in BAT, I hope you stick around, soak up all that genuine and heartfelt praise, and demand regular deposits into your friendship coin bank for the services you provide. I hope you have a long and happy space career there!

goninzo
Aug 26, 2009

All around decent avatar

Rhymenoserous posted:

I don't know, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that maybe your Internet friend whom you've bought lunch for a time or two but who's relationship still ultimately revolved around a shared group experience doesn't really owe you a fair shake when you gently caress over that shared group.

I mean I bought Lucas Tigh a pizza once, I wouldn't expect him to give me a conciliatory handjob if he hosed off to PL.

Were you talking about Lucas coming to visit you for a weekend and party in Chicago? Because Nymblar and I had been doing that for a couple weeks before that.

Now? It's icy, I don't blame him for being mad at me. I can't write a huge runon sentence like Weaselior about how to handle your friends, but v0v.

I do know that The Mittani's full resources are aimed at me now, based on other things happening out of the forums. So wish me luck, I am but a small cog against large machine.

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May 5, 2015
College Slice

goninzo posted:

Not the first time I mentioned it, either. From the AMA:

Yeah okay I remember that detail now. It's lovely and you don't have much if any reason to lie about that. I'm sorry that happened to you I really am.

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

kismeteer buy me lunch, i'm hungry

goninzo posted:

I do know that The Mittani's full resources are aimed at me now, based on other things happening out of the forums. So wish me luck, I am but a small cog against large machine.

:freep:

Blazing Zero
Sep 7, 2012

*sigh* sure. it's a weed joke
theres a whole lot of words being written, but no substance from either side of this slap fight

can someone please stop teasing me and drop some god drat logs

Numismancer
Sep 15, 2004

by sebmojo

goninzo posted:

I do know that The Mittani's full resources are aimed at me now, based on other things happening out of the forums. So wish me luck, I am but a small cog against large machine.

Posting "Ha ha ha you lost your dog in your divorce nyah nyah nyah" may not have been your most optimal available method of getting welcomed back into the embrace of GSF, I'll admit.

I'm hoping "full resources aimed at me" is actually a sexual innuendo and he's suggesting we make a porno.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

goninzo posted:

I can't write a huge runon sentence like Weaselior about how to handle your friends

oh god please please please write this I'm begging you please it will be the post of the year

goninzo
Aug 26, 2009

All around decent avatar

facultas posted:

Even better is that, since Endie knows that what I say is true and that the entire Star Chamber over multiple generations was privy to his regular "Kismeteer is a giant gently caress-head" tirades over the years, he'll now have to to go out of his way to prove these heinous accusations to be false and be nice to you. Dude, it was bad when you were a GSOL director and in EG, it got way worse when you started doing stats. But maybe you'll even get lucky and score a public post from him about how you're really a good guy, how you really fit in, and how much value you add.

This in itself will be hilarious, because every kind word, every bit of ego soothing he'll have to do to you over time, will burn him up because of what he actually thinks about you. But he'll have to do it, or he'll be proving me right, again. So he'll be locked in with you, making you feel good, and hating it the whole time. And I'm sorry, but that's just hysterical.

I don't want you to be unhappy in PL or in BAT, I hope you stick around, soak up all that genuine and heartfelt praise, and demand regular deposits into your friendship coin bank for the services you provide. I hope you have a long and happy space career there!

It's amusing you keep pointing that out to me. I realize that I'm not that important in the grand scheme of things. But I do know that a few people in PL have said how much I've helped them. I'm enjoying playing internet spaceships, looking forward to meeting people like Killah Bee in Vegas, and generally enjoying playing games with people.

I like helping others. I like being helpful. I have demonstrated that repeatedly over the years. There are a half dozen people in this thread that I have helped without being asked.

But I don't like being poo poo on people I have helped, it's true, but not many people do.

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May 5, 2015
College Slice

Numismancer posted:

Now seems like an optimal time to quote this post for posterity; click the link to see the context and be amazed.

:drat:

Blazing Zero posted:


can someone please stop teasing me and drop some god drat logs

This thread is actually so good I'm going to stop posting and lurk starting now

TopGoon[555]
Aug 30, 2003

Baculus posted:

But you're super happy in PL so it all worked out for the best and we don't need to hear this tale told again.

You can be both happy with your new group of friends and still be angry at your old group. The same thing happened with ISRAD when we splintered from Goonswarm and joined PL. We loved being in PL but the long time vets in corp, many of whom were in GoonSwarm up to four years, felt betrayed and disrespected with how leadership treated them after they put so much time and sweat into the alliance.

I can only imagine how bad it must feel for Kismeteer, who I understand did a lot of thankless logistics work for years and gets thrown out and tossed aside. Now you have poo poo heads like weaselior trying to character assassinate him while Joe F1 Pubbie eats up the direkkktorate talking points and call him selfish and egotistical (lmao)

Blazing Zero
Sep 7, 2012

*sigh* sure. it's a weed joke

Numismancer posted:

Posting "Ha ha ha you lost your dog in your divorce nyah nyah nyah" may not have been your most optimal available method of getting welcomed back into the embrace of GSF, I'll admit.

did this actually happen though? i must have missed it

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

goninzo posted:


I do know that The Mittani's full resources are aimed at me now, based on other things happening out of the forums. So wish me luck, I am but a small cog against large machine.

I really don't think he needs to expend resources to make you come off as a bit unhinged.

You are doing a handy job of taking people who thought you made a gently caress up due to the stress of the situation and felt sorry for you and turning them into folks that think just maybe you have gone a bit wonky entirely on your own.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

it's true every member of illum at the time can testify how much kismeteer liked to help them by repeatedly helpfully instructing them on their job

he took it so seriously that he wouldn't let a little thing like knowing anything, polite requests to stop, impolite requests to stop, pleading to stop, offers of payment to stop, or being placed on ignore stop him from getting that help to you

Numismancer
Sep 15, 2004

by sebmojo

Blazing Zero posted:

did this actually happen though? i must have missed it

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3773671&pagenumber=505&perpage=40#post464291519

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



"TopGoon[555 posted:

" post="464333573"]
You can be both happy with your new group of friends and still be angry at your old group. The same thing happened with ISRAD when we splintered from Goonswarm and joined PL. We loved being in PL but the long time vets in corp, many of whom were in GoonSwarm up to four years, felt betrayed and disrespected with how leadership treated them after they put so much time and sweat into the alliance.

I can only imagine how bad it must feel for Kismeteer, who I understand did a lot of thankless logistics work for years and gets thrown out and tossed aside. Now you have poo poo heads like weaselior trying to character assassinate him while Joe F1 Pubbie eats up the direkkktorate talking points and call him selfish and egotistical (lmao)

It hurt when DJ called me a pubbie :(

Time heals all wounds

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008


Yeah that was uncool. Sorry dude.

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

evilweasel posted:

he took it so seriously that he wouldn't let a little thing like knowing anything, polite requests to stop, impolite requests to stop, pleading to stop, offers of payment to stop, or being placed on ignore stop him from getting that help to you

i mean how else are you going to bank friendship coins if you don't try to be helpful

with the economy like it is under OBAMA can you really blame him

Blazing Zero
Sep 7, 2012

*sigh* sure. it's a weed joke

yeah i saw that post when you linked back to it earlier. i must be stupid or i dont understand the reference. sorry your ex took your dog though :smith:

Divine Blob
Mar 13, 2013

Divine Blob posted:

i just sp injected into my guardian so i can do my first incursion and stratop im really excited!!!!

update: i died on stratop rip guardian 9/16 16:52 eve - > 9/16 18:52 eve

https://zkillboard.com/related/30004560/201609161800/

Blazing Zero
Sep 7, 2012

*sigh* sure. it's a weed joke
besides people rightfully pointing out his recent bad posts, ive only seen the classic 'endie is unstable' posters saying kismeteer sucks. is this another toeing the line episode of GoonSwarm Federation

Blazing Zero
Sep 7, 2012

*sigh* sure. it's a weed joke
really need to stop airing reruns imo

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

for all the aspiring future ex-directors out there, just getting on with my life after I got fired was a top notch call. would recommend.

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica

RhoA posted:

#BATLivesMatter

gwrtheyrn
Oct 21, 2010

AYYYE DEEEEE DUBBALYOO DA-NYAAAAAH!

Numismancer posted:

I'm hoping "full resources aimed at me" is actually a sexual innuendo and he's suggesting we make a porno.

:suspense:

goninzo
Aug 26, 2009

All around decent avatar

Zodium posted:

for all the aspiring future ex-directors out there, just getting on with my life after I got fired was a top notch call. would recommend.

Word, don't fight the media empire with 1,000 nerds on broadcast. You just end up wrecked.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

facultas posted:

Even better is that, since Endie knows that what I say is true and that the entire Star Chamber over multiple generations was privy to his regular "Kismeteer is a giant gently caress-head" tirades over the years, he'll now have to to go out of his way to prove these heinous accusations to be false and be nice to you. Dude, it was bad when you were a GSOL director and in EG, it got way worse when you started doing stats.

This is also kind of uncool, btw.

Pretty rad dad pad
Oct 13, 2003

People who try to pretend they're superior make it so much harder for those of us who really are. Philistines!

goninzo posted:

It's pretty typical of you to miss a point that doesn't suit your argument. But I don't blame you for that. Transactional friends are only friends because what they do for you. I'm not the one who dropped friends over this mess.

Once you go against a space empire, you're a non person to that empire, meaning The Mittani. See also: nearly every old school goon. Or just see it evidenced by the people he gathers around him now versus the old days.

"TopGoon[555 posted:

" post="464333573"]
I can only imagine how bad it must feel for Kismeteer, who I understand did a lot of thankless logistics work for years and gets thrown out and tossed aside. Now you have poo poo heads like weaselior trying to character assassinate him while Joe F1 Pubbie eats up the direkkktorate talking points and call him selfish and egotistical (lmao)

one of the things that's jumped out at me having, mostly quietly, been in and out and in and out etc of goonfleetwaffeswarm for...christ, what, ten years now? (and even at that not so much as some people, having missed Syndicate, but still) over the last year or so has been every craven shithead with an axe (whether recent or half a decade old) to grind taking to reddit to use the metaphorical me as a talking point for why The Current Generation are Awful and wouldn't everything be so much better if the old goons were in charge except oh they're all in PL etc ad nauseam

but, well, for what little it matters I'm still here, along with plenty of us, would take 1000 FCONs over anyone trying to use me as a talking point, and I doubt I'm the only one

4th Horseman
Jun 3, 2011

"TopGoon[555 posted:

" post="464333573"]
You can be both happy with your new group of friends and still be angry at your old group. The same thing happened with ISRAD when we splintered from Goonswarm and joined PL. We loved being in PL but the long time vets in corp, many of whom were in GoonSwarm up to four years, felt betrayed and disrespected with how leadership treated them after they put so much time and sweat into the alliance.

I can only imagine how bad it must feel for Kismeteer, who I understand did a lot of thankless logistics work for years and gets thrown out and tossed aside. Now you have poo poo heads like weaselior trying to character assassinate him while Joe F1 Pubbie eats up the direkkktorate talking points and call him selfish and egotistical (lmao)



You're so full of hate towards gsf in this thread it's hard take anything you say

That's it, just hard to take anything you have to say

RhoA
Jul 20, 2014

Divine Blob posted:

update: i died on stratop rip guardian 9/16 16:52 eve - > 9/16 18:52 eve

https://zkillboard.com/related/30004560/201609161800/

Nice missing high slot bro.

Blazing Zero
Sep 7, 2012

*sigh* sure. it's a weed joke

feedmegin posted:

This is also kind of uncool, btw.

its mysterious how as soon as an ex gsf director voices discontent, history gets changed into they sucked/are unstable/were useless by the same 2-4 posters itt

4th Horseman
Jun 3, 2011

Blazing Zero posted:

its mysterious how as soon as an ex gsf director voices discontent, history gets changed into they sucked/are unstable/were useless by the same 2-4 posters itt

The long list of endie and dj?

Wat about all the people who were fired but didn't stir poo poo

Hmmm

Wonder why they're not in the limelight

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

goninzo posted:

Word, don't fight the media empire with 1,000 nerds on broadcast. You just end up wrecked.

buy me lunch

Wings_SWMud posted:

one of the things that's jumped out at me having, mostly quietly, been in and out and in and out etc of goonfleetwaffeswarm for...christ, what, ten years now? (and even at that not so much as some people, having missed Syndicate, but still) over the last year or so has been every craven shithead with an axe (whether recent or half a decade old) to grind taking to reddit to use the metaphorical me as a talking point for why The Current Generation are Awful and wouldn't everything be so much better if the old goons were in charge except oh they're all in PL etc ad nauseam

but, well, for what little it matters I'm still here, along with plenty of us, would take 1000 FCONs over anyone trying to use me as a talking point, and I doubt I'm the only one

this was a thing right from day one with the pre-Goonfleet old guard goons feeling entitled to leadership and bitterly going gently caress goons when they didn't get it

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

Blazing Zero posted:

its mysterious how as soon as an ex gsf director voices discontent, history gets changed into they sucked/are unstable/were useless by the same 2-4 posters itt

this is what happens when you don't read the guys posts and only read the ones going after him.

like I'm a card carrying member of the "doubt the directors" and "free kismeteer" club but even I'm slowly losing the "Feel sorry for him vibe" and moving on towards "Well he's digging his own holes v0v"

but thank you for coming in here and telling us ~how it is~

edit: and people were calling DJ unstable back when he was CEO sooooooooo.

Rhymenoserous fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Sep 16, 2016

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Pretty rad dad pad
Oct 13, 2003

People who try to pretend they're superior make it so much harder for those of us who really are. Philistines!

Blazing Zero posted:

its mysterious how as soon as an ex gsf director voices discontent, history gets changed into they sucked/are unstable/were useless by the same 2-4 posters itt

noone actually said that though, they said he got ranted at/about a lot

which, as someone who isn't, has never been and hopefully will never be a director, but who has listened to kismeteer give a lot of people advice that's unsolicited, incoherent, entirely outside his area of competence or knowledge and delivered at the absolute worst possible time, at length, I can entirely and without a second's doubt believe

(there was also a lot of good, timely advice delivered appropriately! but then, again, I don't think anyone has claimed otherwise - just when you're one of those people who just does not know how to stop talking unless someone raps you over the head with a cricket bat, you're going to put out a lot of complete guff - see f.e the last few pages)

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