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How do I deal with C'tis? I'm trying to learn this game and ended up as EA Abyssia. I managed to get 19 provinces before all of the independents were gone but, now I am sharing a border with C'tis which is pushing my candles back and massing way more troops than I am. I'm using all of my income for a fire mage in the capitol and as many dudes with the axe+shield combo as I can at the forts near my border. I've got conjuration 6 and evocation 7 but, my mages seem to suck compared to all their lizard shits. The script I've been using is phoenix power -> falling fires x4 with stay behind troops. I've got a random warlock out wandering around harvesting blood slaves too.
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Sep 14, 2016 18:35
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Azuth0667 posted:How do I deal with C'tis?
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Sep 14, 2016 20:08
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I haven't given up yet on this dumb Multiplayer LP thing. Part 19
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Sep 14, 2016 20:26
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Azuth0667 posted:How do I deal with C'tis? Without knowing more info I would say stack as much reinvig on a big mage as you can (girdle of strength, boots), cast Firestorm, and try not to die to Rigor Mortis and farts while everything on the battlefield is incinerated.
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Sep 14, 2016 21:27
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Are you fighting a person or the AI?
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Sep 14, 2016 21:50
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MF_James posted:Are you fighting a person or the AI? Yeah this is important. A person may actually use fire resistance to counter your everything. The AI probably won't (and tends to stack big armies full of chaff). Oh also make sure to give your big mage an item to get from F4 to F5 (I think there's a hat or something) so they can cast firestorm.
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Sep 14, 2016 22:36
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or cast pheonix power
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Sep 14, 2016 22:38
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Annointed of Rhuax have F4 base and can Phoenix Power to 5. The fire boosting hat is good but 3 exhaustion is scary. Skull of Fire can be made for 5d5f if you've found the gems to empower someone.
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Sep 14, 2016 22:40
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MF_James posted:Are you fighting a person or the AI? I started a game against the AI since I basically hadn't figured out the UI yet. Fire elementals and burning ones seem to have pushed them back and their dumb fire vulnerable pretender has been killed so much I don't think it has any magic left. I've taken their capitol and half of their provinces but for some reason their candles are still pushing mine back.
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Sep 14, 2016 23:12
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You probably have a  domscore.Blood sacrifice your slaves and build more temples (although Abysia is nearly always broke so I can understand if this is tricky!)
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Sep 14, 2016 23:13
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Yeah I'm also ridiculously new, but all the guides say not to have a dom score less than 6, and preferably shoot for 8 or so. (Or 9 if you want awe for an awake expander.)
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Sep 14, 2016 23:28
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Yeah I'm also ridiculously new, but all the guides say not to have a dom score less than 6, and preferably shoot for 8 or so. Yeah, imo 8 is the good 'safe' level. Go 7 if you need a few extra points, or 9 if you're an awake expander that isn't Earthsnake. Only go 6 if you know you want to be spamming temples early on, and even then it's a risky strategy.
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Sep 14, 2016 23:52
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jBrereton posted:You probably have a That would be why then, my sun snake thing only has a 6 dominion score. Burning ones really did turn the tide though they trashed all the loving lizard people. It allowed me to capture a bunch of provinces which solved my income problem. Killing the C'tiss moon titan pretender, spamming temples and capturing their capitol solved the candles problem. Which leaves me with the fish people in Atlantis and the druids in Marverni. One of those two killed off the Kailasa so that's two enemy nations down. Someone keeps using a ritual that adds +3 cold and kills a bunch of my population. The fish people have the most water so I assume its them and I want that to stop so I think saving to cast Astral Corruption is a good idea. The Marverni have a massive army like 3x the size of myself and Atlantis which I'm not sure how to deal with just yet.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Yeah I'm also ridiculously new, but all the guides say not to have a dom score less than 6, and preferably shoot for 8 or so. It used to be that 6 was pretty much the absolute minimum that you could get away with but was still pushing it. If memory serves your dom rolls were basically (dom * 10)%. Now they're (50 + (dom * 5))% or something. You still want a high dom score obviously but going too low isn't death anymore. Granted if you want to use your pretender for early expansion in person (  ) 9 or 10 is pretty much mandatory.
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Azuth0667 posted:The Marverni have a massive army like 3x the size of myself and Atlantis which I'm not sure how to deal with just yet. The danger of Marv in MP is people casting stuff like Gift of Heavens/Soul Slay with a million mages, but even then you have fire storm on Abysia and a thing called Rain of Stones (plus the less good Earthquake) on a few other nations that pretty much clears the battlefield of human mages and can be cast on turn 1 to really ruin their day. Dom 6 is pretty reasonable on EA Abysia, you have blood sac to stop your dominion from dying out with just a bit of blood hunting, and your starting army is probably the best in the game relative to the other indies, so you can charge them at something that looks promising on turn 1 and almost certainly win.
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jBrereton posted:Marv's armies are gigantic but they won't beat yours in a straight fight, and their slingers will just ping off your armour. Yeah that seems to be my experience. The AI sent 400 things at my 98 strong army and killed most of my army but their entire army was destroyed and all my leaders lived. How do I see who else has global enchantments or things they've cast on my provinces that I can dispel?
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Azuth0667 posted:Yeah that seems to be my experience. The AI sent 400 things at my 98 strong army and killed most of my army but their entire army was destroyed and all my leaders lived. How do I see who else has global enchantments or things they've cast on my provinces that I can dispel? You can find globals in one of the tabs on the right hand of the screen. "i" will give you the history of a province which would show which events took place there. You only dispel globals the other ritual remote spells like Blight only take effect once. Some events do cause hidden units to appear in a province, like monster boar or cults, that need to be patrolled out using troops. I don't remember you saying what your starting dom was but it definitely starts to crunch mid-game. The AI, and some players, love building temples early and frequently. Each temple produces 1 temple check per turn which adds up over time. Forting up to get more mages and a safe place for a temple (and sac in your case) is important. I assume you are using a bless for your Burning Ones if you are recruiting them. They are extremely powerful but like every troop their importance diminishes are you get more research and mages take on a bigger role. Your troops are there just to block for your mages and losing 1000 is a disaster. A Fire Storm caster could kill hundreds of troops and thosands of skeletons in a single fight where your other troops are long fatigued. Cast Fire Storm and Heat From Hell and hope the enemy doesn't have fire resist. Also start your blood sac if you haven't already. Don't have more troops than you need but have enough to not get ownde.
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weapons of mass destruction is really bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IdE2hffjis
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Actually it is very good!
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I'm happy all artifacts are good now
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Thanks for the advice Abysia was victorious! I'm trying EA vanheim now any pointers?
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Azuth0667 posted:Thanks for the advice Abysia was victorious! I'm trying EA vanheim now any pointers? Cast blessing.
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Sep 17, 2016 00:19
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Cast blessing. What blessings should I go for?
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Sep 17, 2016 00:25
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Azuth0667 posted:What blessings should I go for? Fire or Water. Both have pros and cons, but I prefer fire. Earth might work on Vanheres too?
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If it's against AI then Earth and Nature, or Nature and Water. edit: honestly you can do basically anything you want, your troops are so good you are just going to wreck them. Washout fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Sep 17, 2016 |
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Sep 17, 2016 06:36
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jsoh posted:weapons of mass destruction is really bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IdE2hffjis i think you'll find +666 spell pen is good and balanced, friend
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Sep 17, 2016 06:38
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good news the guy went ai so cataclysm 2 is now a single player adventure
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Sep 17, 2016 22:55
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jsoh posted:weapons of mass destruction is really bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IdE2hffjis As bad as not using the C key to see what's happening in the battle!
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 My LP updated! Yes, my half-assed Dominions 4 Multiplayer LP got two more episodes: Part 20 Part 21
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Azuth0667 posted:What blessings should I go for? In order of effectiveness on vanhere: Water and/or Nature Earth / Blood everything else
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Nuclearmonkee posted:In order of effectiveness on vanhere: Well poo poo maybe that's my problem I've been spamming Vanjarls. Also what kind of tactics am I looking for these guys? I keep getting stomped by Caeleum and C'tis has shitloads of devils.
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Azuth0667 posted:Well poo poo maybe that's my problem I've been spamming Vanjarls. Also what kind of tactics am I looking for these guys? I keep getting stomped by Caeleum and C'tis has shitloads of devils. get dom 8/9, poo poo out vanheres. Your mages are.... expensive so getting combat magic up takes a lot of money and time, I'd go with an imprisoned something or other, with W9 or N9, some decent scales for cash and maybe prod1, and use your chainsaws of death (vanhere) to get all the land you can, then keep using them to take everyone elses land. Your research goals are thunderstrike/storm, air elementals, and then I dunno I guess blood stuff? Caelum is rough because of flyers with magik weapons, you'll need dudes set to guard commander so your commander doesn't get eaten, probably use stuff other than vanheres (cheap chaff guys) for that. Vanhere are probably the most overpowered sacred in the game, I don't think any other sacred can stand toe to toe with them costwise. Maybe b9 jags since the vanhere kill themselves on the jags? I dunno. *edit* I forgot about mistform, you want mistform, it's very good at keeping your dudes alive. Once you get it, you can take 2 vanjarls (and nothing else), put them on the same square, have 1 cast bless, and both of them mistform and you can then take provinces that have just PD in them (aka they're Thugs) MF_James fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Sep 18, 2016 |
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Azuth0667 posted:Well poo poo maybe that's my problem I've been spamming Vanjarls. Also what kind of tactics am I looking for these guys? I keep getting stomped by Caeleum and C'tis has shitloads of devils. Take N9E9B9 and cast nothing but bless and defeat all newbies in on the field of honor. Vanhere really are that dumb. If you want to be less extreme just take N9 maybe with some E minor and do the same thing but without the economic pressure.
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The only thing you can gently caress up early with dual blessed Vanir is accidentally sneaking them rather than attacking with them.
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jBrereton posted:The only thing you can gently caress up early with dual blessed Vanir is accidentally sneaking them rather than attacking with them. Yeah this has me paranoid to double check all of them and make sure they are not sneaking. Should I ignore the Vanjarls then and go back to Vanheres?
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Vanhere need to be led by a priest to make the most out of them but yes they are by some distance the best recruitable sacreds of any era.
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Azuth0667 posted:Yeah this has me paranoid to double check all of them and make sure they are not sneaking. You expand in all directions with the vanhere + vanherse and use all of your expansion gold to put down more forts to make vanjarl. With that N9E4/6 bless a pair of them can generally kill small armies naked with mistform (alteration 3).
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Azuth0667 posted:Thanks for the advice Abysia was victorious! I'm trying EA vanheim now any pointers? https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3734584&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=20#post455538210 Tri-bless Van is absolutely insane.
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