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Amaryllis
Aug 14, 2007

Nobody makes a fool out of Rohan Kishibe!

Moltrey posted:

Yeah, I will say though, it's hard to really feel out what Josuke's like outside of the story and if he just Lived, and that's because so much of this story has been about WHY Josuke is. He's essientally a baby that was just born, but out of two literal people.
Oh yeah, when I say it's a "problem" I mean more from my perspective as an over-analyzing fan who would normally look to the little details outside the plot for more about his personality--not so much a problem within the story itself.

Honestly, I like Gappy's goofiness (and also the wild tonal shifts that Part 8 has going on in general). Since neither Josefumi nor Kira seems especially goofy, I'm hoping that that part is authentically Gappy and that we see more of it. He is a nice boy who likes Yasuho, large fries, and too-small sailor suits, and who will ask politely before brutally murdering your (now ex-)boyfriend.

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Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

BaDandy posted:

I don't think anyone here is saying "I DON'T LIKE JOSHUU BECAUSE HE'S BEING ~~PROBLEMATIC~~", they're just having an emotional reaction to him, like they should be, whether it's disgust or finding it so ridiculous that it loops around into being funny. Joshuu having these bouts of ridiculous behavior is definitely a spoiled, middle child acting out, but he's clearly supposed to get a reaction from the audience with his disgusting behavior, considering that's why Araki usually has his characters do things like that.

Please don't call one group of people "condescending" while also pulling the "it's not REAL, chill out guys" card. Like, everyone here knows that, don't be that guy. Come on, man.

The line I was responding to was "or, you know, someone shouldn't try to strip a lady who may or may not be their mom and yell about how he should get a chance to suck on her titty". What response can you even give to a statement like that other than "no fuckin' duh"? Yes, pointing out something that everyone already knows is condescending. So my response was condescending in return :P

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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i mean, it was kind of in response to some sort of odd psychoanalysis about how joshuu was apparently doing something perfectly natural given the situation, so i feel this conversation is going in circles

also i have no idea if joshuu's name is supposed to have 2 u's or if that's weird translator poo poo, but out of all the names it seems the most fitting to have the extra u there. i dunno if i'm alone on that

Okuyasu Nijimura
May 31, 2015


Jowshooo

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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has anyone every directly told the jojolion translator guy that his weird translation quirks might not be 100% the best way to translate it? i imagine there might be a few

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
I know Daxing Dad has made some posts in here about the JoJolion translator that were p. interesting

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Johnny Joestar posted:

i mean, it was kind of in response to some sort of odd psychoanalysis about how joshuu was apparently doing something perfectly natural given the situation, so i feel this conversation is going in circles

also i have no idea if joshuu's name is supposed to have 2 u's or if that's weird translator poo poo, but out of all the names it seems the most fitting to have the extra u there. i dunno if i'm alone on that

Im pretty sure the translators are just transliterating all the long vowels (Toukyou) instead of using diacritical marks (Tōkyō) or just ignoring them completely (Tokyo). But everyone in the Higashikata family seems to stre~~~tch out thier words when they talk too. Ive got no idea if its just rigid transliteration or an attempt to capture the way that they talk.

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.
It's normal for Joshuu to be suspicious in this situation and in-character for him to treat anyone he's suspicious of with disrespect. That he went over the line of what most people would consider "Acceptable" disrespect is also in-character, because Joshuu's whole thing is he's a terrible human doomed to snatch at fleeting glimpses of being the triumphant jerk and getting away with it, only to have the universe stomp on him almost immediately afterwards.

All this is true, and yet, it's also okay for people to feel kinda uncomfortable with what transpired, and to express that discomfort, because we're supposed to be adults having a conversation here. Where things go wrong is when a conversation - any conversation - turns into a whirlpool of unpleasantness. You can disagree without being disagreeable. That goes for everyone.

Please love Jojo and each other, thank you.

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.




Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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Meme Emulator posted:

Im pretty sure the translators are just transliterating all the long vowels (Toukyou) instead of using diacritical marks (Tōkyō) or just ignoring them completely (Tokyo). But everyone in the Higashikata family seems to stre~~~tch out thier words when they talk too. Ive got no idea if its just rigid transliteration or an attempt to capture the way that they talk.

it gave us tsurugi saying 'FRUITS ARE BRU~~~TES' for whatever reason so i guess everything is alright

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Pancaaa~~~aaakes!

i dont believe in god

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!


I need to read more of Urasawa's stuff.

Olive!
Mar 16, 2015

It's not a ghost, but probably a 'living corpse'. The 'living dead' with a hell of a lot of bloodlust...
Joe Shoe

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

I am still proud of my boy Joshuuuuu mastering the important skill of being able to do cool poses with his Stand.

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013
Alright, who's gonna be the final boss? It's either Jobin or Caato for sure.

Daxing Dan
Apr 2, 2015

Damn it, why it does need to remain only four bullets!?

Meme Emulator posted:

Im pretty sure the translators are just transliterating all the long vowels (Toukyou) instead of using diacritical marks (Tōkyō) or just ignoring them completely (Tokyo). But everyone in the Higashikata family seems to stre~~~tch out thier words when they talk too. Ive got no idea if its just rigid transliteration or an attempt to capture the way that they talk.

This isn't exactly unique to the Higashikata family (although Daiya does seem to do it particularly often?). It's more like that's how everyone in Jojo talks. Like, Stroheim doesn't say, "Nazi medical science is the best in the world! There is nothing we cannot do!", he says, "NAZI MEDICAL SCIENCE IS THE BEST IN THE WOOOORLD! THERE IS NOTHING WE CANNOT DOOOOO!" All I can really say about that is, it sounds a lot less awkward in Japanese than it does if you try to faithfully recreate it in English.

In other news, four new chapters of Vento Aureo just went up. This wraps up the Notorious B.I.G./Spice Girl segment.

NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

We don't really know much about what's going on with the family or with anyones plots. We do know Jobin was at least talking with the rock people, but we don't know anything beyond that.

Also I just don't really trust Norisuke and the explanation of his stand still rubs me the wrong way for some reason.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
I like Norisuke's Puzzle Man Stand, I wish it was used more

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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NecroMonster posted:

We don't really know much about what's going on with the family or with anyones plots. We do know Jobin was at least talking with the rock people, but we don't know anything beyond that.

Also I just don't really trust Norisuke and the explanation of his stand still rubs me the wrong way for some reason.

with this recent chapter it seems pretty likely that jobin and cato are up to something with each other in regards to shady fruit mafia business. norisuke probably wouldn't be this freaked out if he secretly had his own shady agenda going on at the time, so i personally feel that he might be running into an...accident, soon.

cato getting out of prison really feels like some 'mafia boss getting out of inevitable jail time' kinda poo poo and now that she's back she might sort of take the reigns back from jobin

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
I for one am glad that Grandma Jolyne Valentine came out of jail and made Aurain eat a chair.

BaDandy
Apr 3, 2013

"This taste...

is the taste of a liar!"

Johnny Joestar posted:

with this recent chapter it seems pretty likely that jobin and cato are up to something with each other in regards to shady fruit mafia business. norisuke probably wouldn't be this freaked out if he secretly had his own shady agenda going on at the time, so i personally feel that he might be running into an...accident, soon.

cato getting out of prison really feels like some 'mafia boss getting out of inevitable jail time' kinda poo poo and now that she's back she might sort of take the reigns back from jobin

Like, Norisuke's Stand is called "King Nothing" so...

Yeah, I am all about where this might be headed.

NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

I don't really have anything close to solid, well founded, grounds for my distrust of Norisuke, and I'd love to see a female Jojo "BigBad"

Olive!
Mar 16, 2015

It's not a ghost, but probably a 'living corpse'. The 'living dead' with a hell of a lot of bloodlust...
What if the real villain is Holly

e: she called Nice Girl Yasuho a porno lady

Olive! fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Sep 18, 2016

NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

the big bad is actually the ginko trees and their stupid leaves

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Butt Ox posted:

e: she called Nice Girl Yasuho a porno lady

to be fair she looked like the girl on her magazines

I hope this poor version of Holly gets saved too, she's eating her own fingers thinking it's food. :smith:

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009

NecroMonster posted:

the big bad is actually the ginko trees and their stupid leaves

It'll be the person who is in charge of whoever the weird flashback face guy was, who, in turn, will be revealed to be the person behind every other seemingly unrelated plot element that came and went, from the random symbol that they were chasing after to the source of the walleyes to the hands in the tree that liked to get fresh to the source of the time inconsistencies with gappy's back story to the everything else

NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

the big bad is actually the turtle polnareff now lives inside, they took the arrow into the turtles stand and as a result the turtle became completely immortal without anyone realizing it, allowing it to live through pucci's time fuckery

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009
The big bad is going to be a villain that is able to utilize the power of time kompression to crunch events closer and closer together even though they won't logically fit into any timeline

NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

it's going to be kars, he's going to crash into morhio in meteor form after the first big bad is defeated and demand that everyone worship his perfect form

NecroMonster fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Sep 18, 2016

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009
Just wanna remind everybody that Weather Report's real name was Wes and he only went by the name Weather Report because that is what his stand was called


except when you see him as Wes and he's like "hi, my name's Wes, but you can call me by my nickname Weather Report" lol

NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

Kars' stand will be The World.

Olive!
Mar 16, 2015

It's not a ghost, but probably a 'living corpse'. The 'living dead' with a hell of a lot of bloodlust...
Quick, someone with more knowledge of Jorge Joestar than me talk about what Kars' actual stand was
e: stands? Kars's? Pretty sure there was more than one of each

NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

the worst thing about part 5 and giogio is that his stand would have made a really good stand for the bigbad of a theoretical post apocalyptic jojos

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Butt Ox posted:

Quick, someone with more knowledge of Jorge Joestar than me talk about what Kars' actual stand was
e: stands? Kars's? Pretty sure there was more than one of each
iirc Kars somehow convinced Killer Queen to leave Kira and now Kars has Killer Queen

FirstAidKite posted:

Just wanna remind everybody that Weather Report's real name was Wes and he only went by the name Weather Report because that is what his stand was called


except when you see him as Wes and he's like "hi, my name's Wes, but you can call me by my nickname Weather Report" lol
to be fair, i also want my friends to call me Weather Report

NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

what the gently caress is Jorge Joestar?

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.
Peak fanfiction.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

NecroMonster posted:

the worst thing about part 5 and giogio is that his stand would have made a really good stand for the bigbad of a theoretical post apocalyptic jojos

no the worst thing is that his stand could have allowed him to ACTUALLY survive Pucci's time fuckery (though SBR/JJL probably isn't that timeline anyway)

NecroMonster posted:

what the gently caress is Jorge Joestar?

stupid, mostly

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
mods change my name to weather report, ill find a weather report av. weather report owned

Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Sep 18, 2016

standard owl
Jan 9, 2011

Moltrey posted:

iirc Kars somehow convinced Killer Queen to leave Kira and now Kars has Killer Queen
sounds about right, it's well known that Kars loves animals

if Kars and DIO team up somehow in Eyes of Heaven I'm calling shenanigans because there's no way Kars would let literal dog killer Dio Brando go unmurdered

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standard owl
Jan 9, 2011

he wouldn't even deign to eat him.

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