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Shoeless
Sep 2, 2011

Defiance Industries posted:

The WoB figured them out enough to get Terra's Caspar system working again.

Yeah though they never really managed to get it quite up to its old Star League glory, from what I understand. And then it only really ended up coming into play near the end of the Jihad.

Basically yes, stuff like that has/does exist in Battletech, but only for brief periods, not as something available that you can generally assume access to during any of the game eras, is what I mean.

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Olothreutes
Mar 31, 2007

Well, the society seems like one of the few groups that could probably make something like that happen. And since they're the ones with friend computer, it might work!

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Olothreutes posted:

This is a thing we've done in real life, to great effect. Recently a company designed a combat aircraft AI, ALPHA, that has a perfect dogfighting record against actual USAF expert pilots. They took input from said pilot expert during the initial design phase and then generated a lot of copies of the AI with subtly different settings and had them all fight one another over and over. Using that data they took the most successful of the copies, merged them together to get the best traits from them, and then created a bunch of "children" from the new improved AI. Repeat a bunch of times and you come out with an AI at the end that is way more capable than the starting AI with no human input on tactics. And it was all done on a $500 desktop, not some fancy supercomputing cluster.


I'm not sure if this sort of capability exists in the battletech universe, but I sure hope it does.

That whole subject is incredibly interesting. There's another popular one where they used such a system to let a model self-learn how to walk and run, which offers a pretty neat visualisation of the concept by comparing the generations against each other:
https://youtu.be/pgaEE27nsQw?t=55s

sheep-dodger
Feb 21, 2013

I'm gonna throw another vote on the C pile, gotta murder some Trashborn.

Scintilla
Aug 24, 2010

I BEAT HIGHFORT
and all I got was this
jackass monkey
Current tally:

A: 2
B: 15
C: 40
D: 29
E: 13
F: 47

mercenarynuker
Sep 10, 2008

If you're not First, you're last

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.
Vote C.

Mezzanon
Sep 16, 2003

Pillbug
Throwing in a vote for A because I feel bad for the lil guys!

Mezzanon fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Sep 19, 2016

thetruegentleman
Feb 5, 2011

You call that potato a Trump avatar?

THIS is a Trump Avatar!
Voting for F: got my letters mixed up for a moment.

Corponation
Apr 21, 2007

Fantastic.
I'm feeling D tonight.

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf
That makes a cool 150 votes!

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

I hope to see you next time, and take care all
As tempting as mystery box is, I want to see what F leads into

garland336
Feb 26, 2013
Retrotech is the best tech - F

TyrsHTML
May 13, 2004

voting F for crazy mad max shenanigans.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
Excited to see the Max Max option, and I'm also happy that the Demon Hawks' new free agent pickups won't be totally massacred (hopefully)

terrenblade
Oct 29, 2012
F

also PTN, here's my entry for the secret "what's at the end of the painbow" contest.

I present the BOLO mk V in LAC and LMG versions.


code:
Bolo V (LMG) 
IS experimental 
200 tons 
BV: 4,333 
Cost: 328,610,750 C-bills  
Movement: 2/3 (Tracked) 
Engine: 400 XXL  
Internal: 140 
Armor: 740 (Hardened) 

		Internal	Armor


Front		20		134
Front Right	20		107
Front Left	20		107
Rear Right	20		90
Rear Left	20		90
Rear		20		100
Turret		20		112

 
Weapons		Loc	Heat
Gauss Rifle	TU	1

LMG		FR	0
LMG		FR	0
LMG		FR	0
LMG		FR	0
LMG		FRLS	0
LMG		FRLS	0
LMG		FRLS	0
LMG		FRRS	0
LMG		FRRS	0
LMG		FRRS	0
LMG		RR	0
LMG		RR	0
 
Ammo		Loc	Shots
Gauss Ammo	BD	8
Gauss Ammo	BD	8
Gauss Ammo	TU	8
LMG Ammo	BD	200
1/2 LMG Ammo	FR	100

Equipment	Loc		
Hardened	BD
A-Pod		FR
A-Pod		FRRS
A-Pod		FRLS
C3i ComputerBD
code:
Bolo V (LAC) 
IS experimental 
200 tons 
BV: 2,539 
Cost: 332,097,500 C-bills  
Movement: 2/3 (Tracked) 
Engine: 400 XXL  
Internal: 140 
Armor: 328 (Hardened) 

		Internal	Armor
Front		20		61
Front Right	20		46
Front Left	20		46
Rear Right	20		40
Rear Left	20		40
Rear		20		40
Turret		20		55

 
Weapons		Loc	Heat
Gauss Rifle	TU	1
LAC/2		FR	1
LAC/2		FR	1
LAC/2		FR	1
LAC/2		FR	1
LAC/2		FR	1
LAC/2		FRRS	1
LAC/2		FRRS	1
LAC/2		FRRS	1
LAC/2		FRLS	1
LAC/2		FRLS	1
LAC/2		FRLS	1
LAC/2		RR	1
B-Pod		FR	0
B-Pod		FRRS	0
B-Pod		FRLS	0
B-Pod		RR	0


C3 Master with TAG
		BD	0
 
Ammo		Loc	Shots
Gauss Ammo	TU	8
Gauss Ammo	BD	8
Gauss Ammo	BD	8
Armor-P. LAC/2	FR	22
LAC/2 Ammo	BD	45
Precision LAC/2	BD	22
Precision LAC/2	BD	22
Flak LAC/2 Ammo	FRRS	45
Flak LAC/2 Ammo	FRLS	45


 
Equipment	Loc
Hardened	BD

raverrn
Apr 5, 2005

Unidentified spacecraft inbound from delta line.

All Silpheed squadrons scramble now!


You're missing a ton of nuclear missiles, particle cannons and drones.

The Merry Marauder
Apr 4, 2009

"But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own."

terrenblade posted:

also PTN, here's my entry for the secret "what's at the end of the painbow" contest.

I present the BOLO mk V

I'm sure PTN would like to encourage more quality fiction from the creator of the Gray Death Legion.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

The Merry Marauder posted:

I'm sure PTN would like to encourage more quality fiction from the creator of the Gray Death Legion.

Say what now?

The Merry Marauder
Apr 4, 2009

"But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own."
William H. Keith writes (among lots of other stuff) Bolo stories.

MJ12
Apr 8, 2009

terrenblade posted:

F

also PTN, here's my entry for the secret "what's at the end of the painbow" contest.

I present the BOLO mk V in LAC and LMG versions.

Should have made one of the 10,000+ ton Bolos as a mobile structure. :V

Shoeless
Sep 2, 2011

MJ12 posted:

Should have made one of the 10,000+ ton Bolos as a mobile structure. :V

I think I may have already done that. Not intended as a Bolo, but it'd probably fit decently. Surface to orbital weaponry and all.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
Vote's not over yet (mostly because I'm relaxing and recharging this week), but since there's a clear frontrunner I'm not being completely idle.

LeschNyhan
Sep 2, 2006

Corrosive, extremely bad for your health, moderately chemically unstable.

Well, at least it's not flammable.

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



Yikes, just what do they use to power those chemical lasers?

Ardlen
Sep 30, 2005
WoT



Bloody Pom posted:

Yikes, just what do they use to power those chemical lasers?

My guess is FOOF.

LegendairyBovine
Oct 6, 2014
Quillar fertilizer is my guess.

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


Bloody Pom posted:

Yikes, just what do they use to power those chemical lasers?

Hazardous chemicals, Virtucon's #1 product!

Shoeless
Sep 2, 2011

Bloody Pom posted:

Yikes, just what do they use to power those chemical lasers?

Given that they're chemical lasers, I would guess they power them with chemicals.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


And that's probably going to be one of the heaviest vehicles in the scenario, a whopping 723 BV.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


Bloody Pom posted:

Yikes, just what do they use to power those chemical lasers?

The CapCon variant, like all things Capellan, are powered by orphans. ... who have been bathed in chemicals from the Axis Chemical Factory, like the Joker.

Truly there is nothing more precious than the laughter of a child (being weaponized).

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
Is the ammo for those lasers like super explosive?

Shoeless
Sep 2, 2011

wiegieman posted:

And that's probably going to be one of the heaviest vehicles in the scenario, a whopping 723 BV.

Depending on whether or not PTN actually calculated the weapon's BV manually and did it up like that, the BV might not be accurate. Heavy Chemical Lasers are not a canon weapon, I'm interested to see what they do.

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



Shoeless posted:

Depending on whether or not PTN actually calculated the weapon's BV manually and did it up like that, the BV might not be accurate. Heavy Chemical Lasers are not a canon weapon, I'm interested to see what they do.

They are canon, they're just exclusively Clan technology in the original fluff. :eng101:

They're essentially ammo-based lasers that use canisters of volatile chemicals in lieu of a fusion reactor for power, to allow ICE/fuel cell equipped vehicles to mount lasers without the bulky capacitors.

Ablative
Nov 9, 2012

Someone is getting this as an avatar. I don't know who, but it's gonna happen.

Pattonesque posted:

Is the ammo for those lasers like super explosive?

Not super explosive, no. But you wouldn't want it getting shot. Or wet. Or a hole in the case, because that poo poo is toxic as hell apparently.

Picard Day
Dec 18, 2004

Bloody Pom posted:

They are canon, they're just exclusively Clan technology in the original fluff. :eng101:

Chemical lasers exist in canon, however, Heavy chemical lasers are a new thing.

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



Picard Day posted:

Chemical lasers exist in canon, however, Heavy chemical lasers are a new thing.

Ah, you're right. I was confusing Heavy and Large.

TheParadigm
Dec 10, 2009

It is a bit late, but I will vote for C, D just to close the gap a bit. D was tempting but I dont think number of votes for losers do anything so no reason to make it a 30, even if the mission premise is oh so stupid, goony, an funny.

edit: its been an hour, i don't think my vote has been tabulated. I'm leaving the old one in for posterity just in case.

TheParadigm fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Sep 20, 2016

Shoeless
Sep 2, 2011

TheParadigm posted:

I dont think number of votes for losers do anything

They do.

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TheParadigm
Dec 10, 2009

really now? Well, hmn.

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