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Cat Mattress posted:Around the time they changed the title to "Blaster Nation Forever" (which I took as a reference to Duke Nukem Forever, that is to say, an implicit admission that they had no idea what they were going to do with this but felt obligated to keep it going anyway) they said they had already written just about everything they wanted to do with these characters. It seems to me that what killed Blaster Nation is simply a prolonged case of writer's block. They don't know what to do after wrapping up Rinnie's story so they're just going to not do anything. Blaster Nation wasn't particularly good so I approve of them realising their limitations with it. Although making a porn comic instead is hardly an improvement, but at least they will be able to milk money out of the coveted, repressed nerd market.
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Schlock Mercenary: Howard Tayler apparently killed off Tagon again and Petey nearly broke the galactic core (or so he says), wonder if this'll end up being fixed by another time travel episode.
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anti-magic posted:Blaster Nation wasn't particularly good so I approve of them realising their limitations with it. I will loving fight you. I will leave your battered account on the ground as a warning to any who dare to dislike things I enjoy Honestly I was going to post about how wrong you were but the more I think about it I honestly can't defend Blaster Nation's story. It's super predictable, but I've come to enjoy slice of life stuff like that a la Questionable Content for a while now, and it's really nothing special. Although I won't be following it, I hope Rock Cocks brings them the success they deserve because I really like their style and humor. Godspeed you! Porn comic Wrist Watch fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Sep 18, 2016 |
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nimby posted:Schlock Mercenary: Howard Tayler apparently killed off Tagon again and Petey nearly broke the galactic core (or so he says), wonder if this'll end up being fixed by another time travel episode. That or we'll get to see just how far the whole backup technology goes. After all, the title character has already suffered permanent complete total bodily destruction, and came back from it just fine. Well, a bit depressed and confused about what life is, but, you know, fine.
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Empress Theonora posted:I liked the ending. It is exactly what I expected and was better than it probably should have been. The real issue is that before that ending there was three loving years of absolutely tedious dramatic blue-balls. Adding in the trolls derailed the story a ton, but then the story's derails began to derail and it just became an overly convoluted gordian knot of characters, dead characters, alternate dimension characters, fan characters, etc. The ending, though, is exactly why Homestuck was great in the start: wacky game jokes, anime antics, cool music, and a big happy ending to all of it. It's all the story needed. Problem Sleuth is better.
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The ending of Homestuck was 40% a tadpole swimming and growing into a frog, 40% a character opening a chest while smiling smugly, 20% random disjointed scenes, and 100% why the gently caress am I watching this, this doesn't make sense at all.
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Homestuck has a boatload of excellent music attached to it.
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Homestuck was a deeply experimental comic, and experiments don't always work out. I'm still glad it exists and I read it.
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qntm posted:Homestuck has a boatload of excellent music attached to it. paradoxGentleman posted:Homestuck was a deeply experimental comic, and experiments don't always work out. I'm still glad it exists and I read it. It is something that could only exist on the Internet, which is novel in and of itself. It blurs the lines of medium and genre almost effortlessly. Andrew Hussie's studio also birthed Toby Fox and Undertale, so he's really provided a fertile ground for new, innovative projects to blossom. I don't think we've seen his best work yet.
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8-Bit Scholar posted:I don't think we've seen his best work yet. I find it hard to believe he'll ever manage to do better than AIDS.
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8-Bit Scholar posted:It is something that could only exist on the Internet, which is novel in and of itself. It blurs the lines of medium and genre almost effortlessly. Yeah, absolutely this as well. MSPA overall feels to me like the canonical web comic, the kind of creative work which Scott McCloud was trying and failing to invent from first principles in the 2000s. Honestly, I was actually a little dismayed when the very final installment of Homestuck was "just" an anime video, because it felt to me as if the comic was kowtowing to a completely different medium, when it had accomplished so much in its own original space. I also have much sympathy for a creator failing to meet unmanageably huge expectations.
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qntm posted:Yeah, absolutely this as well. MSPA overall feels to me like the canonical web comic, the kind of creative work which Scott McCloud was trying and failing to invent from first principles in the 2000s. Honestly, I was actually a little dismayed when the very final installment of Homestuck was "just" an anime video, because it felt to me as if the comic was kowtowing to a completely different medium, when it had accomplished so much in its own original space. I honestly kind of thought it would just end with a black screen that read "Congratulation" and an 8-bit droning sound effect, which would also have been fitting.
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paradoxGentleman posted:Homestuck was a deeply experimental comic, and experiments don't always work out. I'm still glad it exists and I read it. What was the experiment though? What would problem sleuth be like if the complexity was ratcheted up a couple orders of magnitude and had miles of obtuse chatlogs to keep track of?
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the format? yes kid radd came first but homestuck was the one that blew up
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The mixed media aspect of it, mostly. Also a bunch of the things he did with Flash.
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Interspersing full-blown choreographed, animated shorts into a comic; the collaborative nature of the shorts, both music and supplemental art, and the influence of the music on the scripts of the shorts; the interactive game-like and toy-like segments; and yes, the chatlogs. Those were all groundbreaking and still mostly unique, but well worth exploring further. Yes even the chatlogs, like so much of Homestuck they'd have been fine if Hussie had an editor to say "condense this down to no more than a screen-length and drop the typographic gimmicks," and when kept legible they really are an effective way of presenting dialogue in the format. I'm sure it's not the only way, but it obviously works if you don't let it get out of hand.
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It all got a little too ironic, but nothing was funnier than the horse guy who kept getting sweaty whenever somebody spoke even slightly assertively to him. Early on when they did the item fusion sequences for Christmastime it was pretty funny too
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8-Bit Scholar posted:It all got a little too ironic, but nothing was funnier than the horse guy who kept getting sweaty whenever somebody spoke even slightly assertively to him. Truly, the fact that Equius spends 90% of the series dead and thus (usually) unable to interact with people was Homestuck's greatest failing. It felt like half of the trolls get totally wasted for not being "plot relevant" despite being great vehicles for Hussie's talent of writing stupid banter. I still can't believe we never got to see the awkward trainwreck that is Nepeta's crush on Karkat play out on-panel.
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anti-magic posted:Blaster Nation wasn't particularly good so I approve of them realising their limitations with it.  also Blaster Nation owned, fight me
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my webcomic is a tale of triumph against the odds in the sporting arena, starring a young man who just can't stop making GBS threads
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Avshalom posted:my webcomic is a tale of triumph against the odds in the sporting arena, starring a young man who just can't stop making GBS threads its me
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Avshalom posted:my webcomic is a tale of triumph against the odds in the sporting arena, starring a young man who just can't stop making GBS threads Replace "sporting arena" with "battlefield" and you're Hideo Kojima.
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Avshalom posted:my webcomic is a tale of triumph against the odds in the sporting arena, starring a young man who just can't stop making GBS threads finally a relatable character
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SuperHappy posted:
Jess Fink is a treasure, and super nice in person.
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I heard if you draw two genitals touching each other, they confiscate your "respectable webcomic author" badge.
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I just think porn doesn't really work in a webcomic format because in a medium so susceptible to meandering even in the best of webcomics, depicting an act where smaller details need to be explicitly laid out can easily lead to entire weeks where updates consist of what essentially is a single action. It may hold up better in archival reading, but I can't imagine anything more boring and less titillating than checking up on a story for a week and a half and seeing no forward progress because the plot had led into a sex scene.
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Morbi posted:I heard if you draw two genitals touching each other, they confiscate your "respectable webcomic author" badge. i thought that was how you get it in the first place?
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Wrist Watch posted:I just think porn doesn't really work in a webcomic format because in a medium so susceptible to meandering even in the best of webcomics, depicting an act where smaller details need to be explicitly laid out can easily lead to entire weeks where updates consist of what essentially is a single action. It may hold up better in archival reading, but I can't imagine anything more boring and less titillating than checking up on a story for a week and a half and seeing no forward progress because the plot had led into a sex scene. That's an understandable view, but porn in webcomics has the same pitfalls as literally anything else in webcomics. You stretch any single scene out too long in real- time updates it's going to lose steam, exposed genitals or no. And depending on the action/plot ratio in the comic, it doesn't even need to be the focus of the chapter- page wise.
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Plus, you have to remember that these are daily comics that people are coming back to. If your entire update is just dowel A going into slot B with nothing else then it's going to be a pretty boring update. Gotta still make it interesting.
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Wrist Watch posted:I just think porn doesn't really work in a webcomic format because in a medium so susceptible to meandering even in the best of webcomics, depicting an act where smaller details need to be explicitly laid out can easily lead to entire weeks where updates consist of what essentially is a single action. It may hold up better in archival reading, but I can't imagine anything more boring and less titillating than checking up on a story for a week and a half and seeing no forward progress because the plot had led into a sex scene. A lot of webcomics seem to be doing the whole multiple comics per update at a less frequent schedule, and I think that would probably lend itself well to porn webcomics. Getting an entire scene at once would eliminate how agonizingly long sex scenes seem when you're reading them at a rate of one page every week. Avshalom posted:my webcomic is a tale of triumph against the odds in the sporting arena, starring a young man who just can't stop making GBS threads I know you like to poo poo up all of the webcomics threads with posts so bizarre that they border on performance art, but I would read and legitimately enjoy a webcomic about all of your chicken related anecdotes from chicken thread, even if it was drawn terribly.
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Just Offscreen posted:That's an understandable view, but porn in webcomics has the same pitfalls as literally anything else in webcomics. You stretch any single scene out too long in real- time updates it's going to lose steam, exposed genitals or no. And depending on the action/plot ratio in the comic, it doesn't even need to be the focus of the chapter- page wise. That's kind of my point. Take Rock Cocks for example, back when I posted about Blaster Nation getting axed I tried checking out RC to see if it was something I might enjoy. It looks like there was an arc that culminated with a sex scene that lasted around five pages. If I'm binge reading or quickly scrolling through the last few pages then that's cool, the pacing didn't seem particularly bad or anything and the lead-in to it looked solid, but from what I understand Rock Cocks updates three times a week. That's almost two weeks of updates where nothing is progressing. I'm not saying comics with porn can't be good, or that the authors are bad, because that's not true in the slightest. I just think the webcomic format of releasing a few pages throughout the week is a poor medium for serial readers if you're trying to tell an actual story and not just isolated snippets like you'd see in something like Oglaf, where the porn is ancillary. Of course, there's always the argument of "then just check in on it once a month nerd" but my memory is hot garbage and I never remember e: shitpostmodern posted:A lot of webcomics seem to be doing the whole multiple comics per update at a less frequent schedule, and I think that would probably lend itself well to porn webcomics. Getting an entire scene at once would eliminate how agonizingly long sex scenes seem when you're reading them at a rate of one page every week. I didn't see this before I posted but yeah, that would help a lot.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:If your entire update is just dowel A going into slot B with nothing else then it's going to be a pretty boring update. Says you! Wrist Watch posted:Of course, there's always the argument of "then just check in on it once a month nerd" but my memory is hot garbage and I never remember See this is exactly why I use feedly- I literally made myself a folder for comics I just need to check up on once every few months.
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shitpostmodern posted:I know you like to poo poo up all of the webcomics threads with posts so bizarre that they border on performance art, but I would read and legitimately enjoy a webcomic about all of your chicken related anecdotes from chicken thread, even if it was drawn terribly.
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Avshalom posted:realtalk i've seriously considered it, but the problem is that free range chickens die so often that people would ask me what happened to some of the major characters irl and i'd have to say that they passed away from a fox attack and it would put a damper on the whole experience I dunno, you could use that to put a comedic nihilistic spin on things.
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I had a book about chickens when I was younger and one of them gets killed by a fox who then taunts the other chickens about it. Didn't do me no harm. It was called Atilla the Hen, it was real good when I was 8 years old.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:It was called Atilla the Hen Does this end with thousands of fox heads on pikes?
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A.o.D. posted:I dunno, you could use that to put a comedic nihilistic spin on things. a game of hens
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AriadneThread posted:a game of hens
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