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I dunno if there is any defending that read, man. Watkins had more space with his defender playing off coverage than what McCoy had around him if he's truly the second read. And if he's really seeing it well, he should have seen that Woods' man was drafting towards McCoy. There isn't even any pressure to justify just taking the yards.
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Kalli posted:You know, looking back on it, the Bills offense had some really untimely 3 and outs, but the massive time of possession disparity is the defense's fault for getting owned in the 1st quarter. The rest of the game is a fine 21 vs 24 minute difference. Are you saying the Bills... scored... too quickly?
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Chilichimp posted:Are you saying the Bills... scored... too quickly? That's what the complaint seems to boil down to, which just doesn't hold up with me. The Bills had problems, but their inability to get the Jets offense off the field sure seems to be the fault of the Bills defense's inability to stop the Jets at all, not from being worn out.
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Kalli posted:That's what the complaint seems to boil down to, which just doesn't hold up with me. The Bills had problems, but their inability to get the Jets offense off the field sure seems to be the fault of the Bills defense's inability to stop the Jets at all, not from being worn out. Thanks for the breakdown Kalli, that actually helped a lot. Bills D shot themselves in the foot in the first quarter and the offense did them no favors to give them a break after that. My biggest issue is people looking at the points the offense scored to justify their performance. They had 2 bomb TDs and another on a 4th quarter drive down by 2 scores when the Jets were playing prevent. While I don't want to disregard the deep game completely, if you can't move the chains and convert first downs it's kind of a problem.
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Oh boy, here we goooo... https://twitter.com/mikerodak/status/776870337141051392
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Richie Incognito, company man. https://twitter.com/MatthewFairburn/status/776871157958082561
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fsif posted:Yeah lost in a lot of this hubbub is that Tyrod just isn't playing well. 300 yards with 10Y/a and 3 TDs. Terrible.
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Lol that they had 37 points put on them and they are talking about the offense
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quote:The Sporting News' Alex Marvez reports the Bills' front office forced coach Rex Ryan to fire OC Greg Roman as a "sacrificial lamb" following Thursday night's embarrassing home loss to the Jets.
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I think both teams are fairly bad and will not reach the playoffs. Jaguars will and will play very well in their first playoff game in like forty years.
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fsif posted:Yeah lost in a lot of this hubbub is that Tyrod just isn't playing well.  That is just unforgivable, Tyrod. He looks like Kaepernick when Kaep just regressed out of nowhere and lost the ability to even see receivers that weren't his first read. Is Roman just breaking the brains of these guys, telling them to make these terrible reads, or just plain unlucky?
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Thanks for making me feel sorry for Greg Roman, Bills. Thills
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Chichevache posted:
Reminder that Greg Roman learned how to determine progressions from Geep Chryst (the guy who's greatest contribution to football is the "decoy" go route, and SF's OC under Jim Tomsula).
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Coldforge posted:Reminder that Greg Roman learned how to determine progressions from Geep Chryst (the guy who's greatest contribution to football is the "decoy" go route, and SF's OC under Jim Tomsula). You got a link where I can read more about this? I've never heard it before. edit VVVV loving  Chichevache fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Sep 16, 2016 |
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Chichevache posted:You got a link where I can read more about this? I've never heard it before. I, too, do not believe there was anybody ever named Geep Chryst
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Chichevache posted:You got a link where I can read more about this? I've never heard it before. Here's something from the Bills writers about how he was operating similarly in Buffalo last year as he did in SF (in charge of the run game only). http://www.buffalorumblings.com/bills-news-notes/2015/1/27/7920947/buffalo-bills-greg-roman-offense-david-lee-sanjay-lal-passing-game A short recap of his issues in SF. http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/11/15/9736210/was-greg-romans-offense-to-blame-in-san-francisco My favorite SF writer explaining how it's totally not Greg Roman's fault, because he wasn't even in charge of the play calling. http://www.mercurynews.com/2015/01/12/kawakami-blaming-greg-roman-is-pure-49ers-folly/ My second favorite SF writer interpreting the play calling mess in SF. http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/harbaugh-greg-roman-is-the-play-caller/
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Watching a wide open receiver streak down a huge seam while the QB just does something dumb always makes me feel sad. All the lost bombs, never to be realized.
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Taylor isn't a good QB is the biggest problem in Buffalo. Along with Watkins's health issues.
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The Bills gave up 37 points and didn't force the Jets to punt until well into the 3rd quarter. I don't see how he was the biggest problem with them last night.
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warcrimes posted:Taylor isn't a good QB is the biggest problem in Buffalo. Along with Watkins's health issues. The defense being bad despite the coaches is a pretty big issue
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He was pretty strong fundamentally last year, in ways that he's lacking now. I'd like to wait to see how that resolves
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Ross Angeles posted:The defense being bad despite the coaches is a pretty big issue Despite?
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Chichevache posted:Despite? Rex is a good defensive coach so yeah
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Ross Angeles posted:Rex is a good defensive coach so yeah And yet he somehow made a great defense a very bad one.
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I'm somewhat confused as to why the organization is completely imploding after 2 games. They didn't even lose by that many points and outside Watkins they are pretty healthy. Yes the fans are pissed but getting rid of Roman seems like a move done in a total panic and is going to destroy morale. Things are grim for the Bills despite high expectations.
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Chichevache posted:And yet he somehow made a great defense a very bad one. Yes which is why that is a big issue. Follow along Chiche
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Ross Angeles posted:Rex is a good defensive coach so yeah He's a rich man's Jeff Fischer.
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pasaluki posted:I'm somewhat confused as to why the organization is completely imploding after 2 games. They didn't even lose by that many points and outside Watkins they are pretty healthy. At least you won the offseason 
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Ross Angeles posted:Yes which is why that is a big issue. Is this...is this a Chargers fan trying to tell a Seahawks fan what a good coach looks like? Wait 
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Ross Angeles posted:Rex is a good defensive coach so yeah But Rob only has one good defense every decade or so.
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MrLogan posted:He's a rich man's Jeff Fischer.
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ulmont posted:But Rob only has one good defense every decade or so. Rob drives a defense someone else restored and put a lot of love into. Then the next season he decides to chop the top, throw on spinners, and take it off road.
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MrLogan posted:He's a rich man's Jeff Fischer. Jeff Fischer with PERSONALITY
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ulmont posted:But Rob only has one good defense every decade or so. The defense was bad last year without Rob
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Coldforge posted:Is this...is this a Chargers fan trying to tell a Seahawks fan what a good coach looks like? Let me tell you about 2006
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Sour Diesel posted:I'm Glad The Bengals Lost
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