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Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


Monte seems like a baby who can't take criticism without making a big lengthy public response where he tries to appear like he is taking the high road when he is really being a bitch.

Riot seems like a dumb company that doesn't have the ability, desire, or consistency to fix LCS employee issues behind the scenes.

All these babies kind of deserve each other.

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RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.
It's not just Monte, most of their E-Sports division is ran by petty babies too. Players asking for booths? No way, that's what OGN did that can't be a good idea! It takes the "Interaction away from the fans" (Despite them always having drawings fans send in in front of the monitors and large fan sections for most teams)

I haven't been a huge Regi fan but more owners need to be like him and just bide their time until they can threaten to cripple Riot

Ulio
Feb 17, 2011


Rip Summoning insight, Monte said he won't do it anymore because focusing on other regions is useless since he is blacklisted by Riot. I feel like he wants to blame Riot for everything, I know he probably lost money on the Renegades but he made lots of questionable decisions by associating himself with Badawi, consistently bashing Riot when u know their company culture isn't really accepting of that. They pretty much function as your either with us or against us it seems.

Also it sucks Fabyy is not in TL anymore I liked how everyone had a different way of writing his name.

Work Friend Keven
Oct 24, 2015

I'M A BIG STUPID IDIOT WHO GETS TRIGGERED FROM THE WORDS SPORTS BALL AND HAS SHIT OPINIONS ABOUT CARD GAMES. ALSO I SAID I WAS GOING TO QUIT HEARTHSTONE OUT OF SPITE OF A TAIWANESE WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP SO REPORT ME IF YOU SEE ME POST IN A HS THREAD

henkman posted:

Monte's been in the right the majority of his dealings with riot, he just usually follows it up with acting like a douche

Also sometimes he's wrong and follows it up with acting like a douche, some times makes a value neutral or non-confrontational statement and follows it up with acting like a douche.

Safety Scissors
Feb 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
:lol: Did Phreak actually gently caress a porn star?

Work Friend Keven
Oct 24, 2015

I'M A BIG STUPID IDIOT WHO GETS TRIGGERED FROM THE WORDS SPORTS BALL AND HAS SHIT OPINIONS ABOUT CARD GAMES. ALSO I SAID I WAS GOING TO QUIT HEARTHSTONE OUT OF SPITE OF A TAIWANESE WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP SO REPORT ME IF YOU SEE ME POST IN A HS THREAD
He was dating one for a while so

Jerkface
May 21, 2001

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE DEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?

Fallen Rib

Ulio posted:

Rip Summoning insight, Monte said he won't do it anymore because focusing on other regions is useless since he is blacklisted by Riot.

that hasn't stopped thorin

Safety Scissors
Feb 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
ugh, just looked up this Phreak porn star thing. It's worse than I imagined, and I have a pretty good imagination to how bad these things could be. It's substantially lower than the low for which I imagined Phreak would settle.

Servaetes
Sep 10, 2003

False enemy or true friend?
Was it Thorin that compared Regi to an ape and made racist commentary about polish people and got banned from IEM

Savage Cracker
Jul 21, 2010
I'm pretty sure someone from...I want say to CLG but I don't remember (not a player or owner at any rate) made some kind of comment about "the silverback patriarch is angry" or something to that effect aimed at Regi.

Flappy Bert
Dec 11, 2011

I have seen the light, and it is a string


Servaetes posted:

Was it Thorin that compared Regi to an ape and made racist commentary about polish people and got banned from IEM

My statement that Polish people need to fill the existential hole within themselves with esports is likewise a joke and a serious statement, to some degree. Firstly, I deliver it with a smile on my face and it is meant as an obvious joke to gently caress with Chanman, who is hyping the event to be something epic. Secondly, if we want to address the statement literally, I would say that everyone in the world has an existential hole in their life. Some fill it with mere simple distractions (leisure activities, hobbies, work) and some more drastic solutions (sex, drugs, religion, politics).

Most of the unhappiness in the world stems from people's inability to acknowledge this part of themselves and find a satisfactory and non-destructive way to deal with it. In my case, esports and philosophy have been methods of dealing with this problem of being a human being, alive in the 21st century and outside of the natural environment human beings apparently originated from.

Such context was not given to that statement at the time, because I assumed it would be readily seen as a joke. However, in line with the impossible-to-overcome-hatred-perspective-process I outlined earlier on, I can see that often those who wish to be offended would simply decide that this was a literal statement to be taken as some kind of immortal pronouncement on the Polish people, specifically and solely, by a foreigner. It's impossible, for such people, that there could be any kind of humour involved or more general philosophical context.

moush
Aug 19, 2009

Rage Your Dream
If someone offers you a job for less salary then you deem acceptable, you turn them down (especially if there are people that think it's good enough). Only a baby starts a crusade on social media to tell the company that they're wrong.

moush fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Sep 18, 2016

The Lore Bear
Jan 21, 2014

I don't know what to put here. Guys? GUYS?!

moush posted:

If someone offers you a job for less salary then you deem acceptable, you turn them down (especially if there are people that think it's good enough). Only a baby starts a crusade on social media to tell the company that they're wrong.

Counterpoint: Riot probably wouldn't have changed anything without a social media shitstorm, because that's how they do things.

Basically, in the world of Riot vs Monte, everything is wrong and the only definite winner was going to be fans of internet drama.

EDIT: Alternatively, both sides won since freelancers are getting paid better and Riot doesn't have to deal with Monte anymore. gently caress, I don't know anymore.

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


i am going to tell you that when you're dealing with people in charge of things, and you just go ahead and assume they won't help you out and immediately escalate the issue and put it in the public eye, usually they don't like it.

Schiavona
Oct 8, 2008

thelazyblank posted:

Counterpoint: Riot probably wouldn't have changed anything without a social media shitstorm, because that's how they do things.

Basically, in the world of Riot vs Monte, everything is wrong and the only definite winner was going to be fans of internet drama.

:peanut:

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


but negotiating in bad faith publicly is like a classic way to manipulate the public to your side so

The Mash
Feb 17, 2007

You have to say I can open my presents
It seems like literally everyone except Monte came out on top in the end and I, for one, am OK with that

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


again, his major problem is he always thinks he's the smartest dude in the room. the renegades thing seems extra dumb because fundamentally he's just assuming badawi couldn't lie to him. like riot definitely was heavy handed but i am 100% positive that situation could have been worked out if he didn't take up a stance where he's defending a scummy dude that riot was out to get, out of sheer egotism.

The Mash
Feb 17, 2007

You have to say I can open my presents
I also really like this alternative universe we're in, where the only person behaving like a reasonable adult has been loving Reginald of all people

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy

rabidsquid posted:

i am going to tell you that when you're dealing with people in charge of things, and you just go ahead and assume they won't help you out and immediately escalate the issue and put it in the public eye, usually they don't like it.

ok except this WAS done behind the scenes at first and only when it came to it being an issue that people needed to know about did Monte start his dumbshit crusade on Twitter. If he would've just kept this to his video about Tryndamere's reddit posts then he would've looked way better coming out of it but saying he immediately went to the public with him not being paid what he deemed an acceptable rate for the amount of work he would have to put in is untrue.

moush posted:

If someone offers you a job for less salary then you deem acceptable, you turn them down (especially if there are people that think it's good enough). Only a baby starts a crusade on social media to tell the company that they're wrong.

Lovechop
Feb 1, 2005

cheers mate
jesus can we just talk about tsm instead

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


i miss dyrus

Typical Pubbie
May 10, 2011

Savage Cracker posted:

I'm pretty sure someone from...I want say to CLG but I don't remember (not a player or owner at any rate) made some kind of comment about "the silverback patriarch is angry" or something to that effect aimed at Regi.

That was a random person on twitter who put CLG in front of their name.

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy

rabidsquid posted:

i miss dyrus

https://www.twitch.tv/tsm_dyrus
https://www.youtube.com/user/TSirDiesAlot

Savage Cracker
Jul 21, 2010

Typical Pubbie posted:

That was a random person on twitter who put CLG in front of their name.

Thanks nice to know

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


can we laugh about how reddit thinks acorn is signing with fnatic

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.

rabidsquid posted:

can we laugh about how reddit thinks acorn is signing with fnatic
Didn't you tell us that Spirit was a fantastic signing for fnatic?

Lovechop
Feb 1, 2005

cheers mate

rabidsquid posted:

can we laugh about how reddit thinks acorn is signing with fnatic

boy are they gonna be embarrassed when dade replaces febiven next split

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


RealFoxy posted:

Didn't you tell us that Spirit was a fantastic signing for fnatic?

yea. and he was their best player this season so ????

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
Why is there such an enormous gap between regional tournaments and worlds? It's still like almost two weeks away, this sucks.

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy

Libertine posted:

Why is there such an enormous gap between regional tournaments and worlds? It's still like almost two weeks away, this sucks.

Riot Scheduling 4Head

Safety Scissors
Feb 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
It's probably because Riot wants to let the teams practice on 6.18. I think all the previous games were on 6.15, and you can def tell not all the teams were used to standard lanes. I think it's nice that this year Riot put more thought into how worlds will play out. Unfortunately, the way playoffs played out was the casualty of this. I'm actually surprised Riot could think a month or so in advance, but I think two months should be the desired goal.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
Riot is the epitome of "you almost got it right but you still hosed up"

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy

Safety Scissors posted:

It's probably because Riot wants to let the teams practice on 6.18. I think all the previous games were on 6.15, and you can def tell not all the teams were used to standard lanes. I think it's nice that this year Riot put more thought into how worlds will play out. Unfortunately, the way playoffs played out was the casualty of this. I'm actually surprised Riot could think a month or so in advance, but I think two months should be the desired goal.

If they "put more thought" into it then forcing the meta to standard lanes wouldn't have happened until Season 7

Action George
Apr 13, 2013

Luna Was Here posted:

If they "put more thought" into it then forcing the meta to standard lanes wouldn't have happened until Season 7

Hey now, most of the teams* had to play their way in off the strength of their solo lanes.

*CLG might be the worst team at Worlds lol

Calax
Oct 5, 2011

Libertine posted:

Why is there such an enormous gap between regional tournaments and worlds? It's still like almost two weeks away, this sucks.

They start the week I move from the midwest to the west coast.

le sigh.

Dragongem
Nov 9, 2009

Heroes of the Storm
Goon Tournament Champion

Libertine posted:

Why is there such an enormous gap between regional tournaments and worlds? It's still like almost two weeks away, this sucks.

I assume it's some mix allowing time to practice on the newest patch + time to organize visas, logistics, etc

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.
It'd be cool if they would let some non-official tournaments take place so teams in the off season could try out new players that aren't going to World's and clash against challenger teams that desperately need the experience. IEM is the only on-going tournament and it loving sucks

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


there was an lpl tournament recently but it was only on qq and its a pain in the rear end to get that site streaming so i only watched a little of it. enough to watch vgs bot lane gently caress them again

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Redmark
Dec 11, 2012

This one's for you, Morph.
-Evo 2013

Calax posted:

They start the week I move from the midwest to the west coast.

le sigh.

I'll do one better, I'll be in China for a period pretty much exactly matching the tournament schedule. Riot's conspiring to never let me watch Worlds in a decent timezone :argh:

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