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Epic High Five posted:I hope so because I've got every bit of funny art from that thread saved i only have the funniest one 
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Al! posted:What i am sayinf, of course hes his own don king Reminder that he had to be forced to not invite Don King to speak at the RNC
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Vertical Lime posted:
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So if you want to talk about why polling [including LV screens and other basic assumptions] can be all over the place, I would read this article: https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/778238475111952385 Basically Cohn gives out the data from the upshot poll to 4 different pollsters. Their results for the data are anywhere from T+1 to C+4.
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Epic High Five posted:Reminder that he had to be forced to not invite Don King to speak at the RNC He should hire don king to promote the debate (but i doubt he could afford it)
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Al! posted:What i am sayinf, of course hes his own don king you must mean vince mcmahon 
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i like how the news is reporting that they are doing their jobs now
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Schnorkles posted:So if you want to talk about why polling [including LV screens and other basic assumptions] can be all over the place, I would read this article: good nate is a better nate than we deserve
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If you recall the Seltzer poll of Ohio that had Trump at +5, it basically used a LV screen that said "We think the electorate will look like 2004." This is conscious decision that pollsters make, and you can be really really wrong. Not to say that you should unskew or discount, it's just that there seems to be a fair amount of uncertainty not just in the election itself, but the polling community, in how to best model this election.
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Schnorkles posted:If you recall the Seltzer poll of Ohio that had Trump at +5, it basically used a LV screen that said "We think the electorate will look like 2004." This is conscious decision that pollsters make, and you can be really really wrong. LV polls are dark magic. You can either get them spot on, or you can bungle it and be way off. That said: https://twitter.com/mviser/status/778240438474010624
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good dog
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Schnorkles posted:If you recall the Seltzer poll of Ohio that had Trump at +5, it basically used a LV screen that said "We think the electorate will look like 2004." This is conscious decision that pollsters make, and you can be really really wrong. My understanding of things is that political scoentists have been unable to come up with a model that explains us presidential elections since 2008 when obama blew it all up
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Hi doggie
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nothing matters this doesn't matter WaPo posted:Donald Trump spent more than a quarter-million dollars from his charitable foundation to settle lawsuits that involved the billionaire’s for-profit businesses, according to interviews and a review of legal documents. David Fahrenthold continues to kill it but nothing matters
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Your dog is very fashionable. 
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iospace posted:LV polls are dark magic. You can either get them spot on, or you can bungle it and be way off. They're easier with known quantities I think. Some pollsters are flat out saying "The electorate will look like 2004" and it seems like a questionable decision to make.
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I don't expect LV polls to be all in line with one another or match up because yeah, there's some chicken bone rolling involved But I do think it's a little silly at this point to expect a 2004 electorate when a) that's 12 years ago and b) doing this is why these pollsters got embarassed in 2012 2004 was a lot whiter, and featured and incumbent wartime president who did not, to pick an example at random, call for a new Trail of Tears, at least openly These LV screens assuming a 75%+ white electorate make me deeply suspicious as to how accurate polling is going to be leading up to the election once again iospace posted:LV polls are dark magic. You can either get them spot on, or you can bungle it and be way off. lmao is this as big a deal as it seems?
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lmao I missed the best part of that Trump charity tax fraud article
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Sinteres posted:At least we know he gets along better with Putin. The Reagans were not a fan of Trump Trump quote of the day? quote:Mrs. Reagan drafted by hand a thanks-but-no-thanks reply that included the line, “I am familiar with Mar-a-Lago.” Then she crossed it out. Also quote:White House Political Director Frank J. Donatelli alerted Chief of Staff Howard Baker about the story. “It would be most helpful if you would place a phone call to Don Trump today,” Donatelli wrote in a memo. “He has a large ego and would be responsive to your call.” He underlined the word “large” before ego. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...1b92a22d278fa5/
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iospace posted:LV polls are dark magic. You can either get them spot on, or you can bungle it and be way off. im ship holding out hope that the information uncovered in this election ends up shattering trumps corporate veils, opening up his personal* wealth to parties with business grievances against him * including rnc funds he's pushed through his companies into his own accounts ofc
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Epic High Five posted:lmao is this as big a deal as it seems? If Trump journo twitter is to be believed, yes. Also: https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/778241243281317888
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IT GETS BETTER: https://twitter.com/Fahrenthold/status/778240825817964544 
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like maybe this time trump will fly too close to the sun and it will set his hair on fire
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https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/778242557302173696 T +1 in NC among LV's. Will be two more polls of NC this week [Upshot and PPP] so I think we'll have an excellent idea of where the state is. Probably tight.
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Perfectly Safe posted:Oh yeah, I'm not complaining - this is, if anything, a recipe for a good thread. I'm just pointing out it's limitations as a catalog of Trump's fuckups/strokes of genius/fuckups. yea i didnt think you were complaining, i was actually agreeing haha
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Xenophon posted:nothing matters everything matters
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the only time any of this will matter will be if trump wins. then the media has some stories fora few months before they all get shuttered and tnn becomes the national news source
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Squizzle posted:im ship holding out hope that the information uncovered in this election ends up shattering trumps corporate veils, opening up his personal* wealth to parties with business grievances against him Is this not illegal?
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Clinton up 98-2 with black voters in NC. 
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It's kind of incredible when you step back and take an overview of just what a colossal piece of poo poo Trump is. He seems to be just terrible garbage in every way a human can be.
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Xenophon posted:nothing matters quote:In another instance, from 2013, the Trump Foundation made a $5,000 donation to the D.C. Preservation League, according to the group and tax filings. That nonprofit’s support has been helpful for Trump as he has turned the historic Old Post Office Pavilion on Washington’s Pennsylvania Avenue NW into a luxury hotel. good thing nothing matters because this all seems super illegal to me, a dumb rear end in a top hat and not a lawyer
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Bunleigh posted:It's kind of incredible when you step back and take an overview of just what a colossal piece of poo poo Trump is. He seems to be just terrible garbage in every way a human can be. Yes but Clinton
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Schnorkles posted:Clinton up 98-2 with black voters in NC. Yeah it can't be stated how dumb of a move it was to bring up the birther thing again. It's a big reason why he's polling beneath David loving Duke
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There's a part of me that wants a Zybourne Clock game to be a reality. The other part doesn't want to ruin the meme. Let it stay beautiful forever. This is concerning. Back onto Trump, I'm glad that media outlets are finally starting to point out obvious bullshit a week before the debates. As if they've been pushing a horse-race up until the point that he gets completely and utterly emasculated by The Killary, where they can then shift their narrative to 'worst defeat in history' and keep him low in the polls to reflect that. Somewhere in the MSNBC Dungeons, Rachel Maddow steeples her fingers, the light of a hundred monitors shining off her glasses as she watches Trump fall apart. "All according to keikaku," she whispers.
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Al! posted:Is this not illegal? Nope! You can use campaign funds to purchase services from yourself at fair market value all day long. The charity stuff is super illegal though, but not criminally.
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https://twitter.com/RednaxalA/status/778237717612142592 https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/778243704792444929
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So far early voting/ballot requests in NC are significantly in favor of Democrats and Independents, who go for Clinton measurably more than Trump
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