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Glagha
Oct 13, 2008

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Seeing that raw milk thing, was the story from a few months back where a bunch of raw milk supporters were like "Hey, look how good raw milk is for you" and then they basically all got salmonella or something true?

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WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

Xen Tricks posted:

Goddamn you've just done everything haven't you? Not sarcastic, BTW. And I meant more so every paranoid conspiracy post ever, world salad is pretty easy to detect. And well its not like it would be disclosed to the end user, maybe just a little ding to their family "hey,_____ is exhibiting typical signs of schizophrenia, consider looking into that".

Yes, but my question is why? If we don't have effective treatment or intervention, why would we notify the person or their family? It's also massively condescending to think that we should talk to the family of someone with an illness rather than them, but setting all of that aside for a moment. We can continue via PM if this is derailing the thread?

Xen Tricks
Nov 4, 2010

WrenP-Complete posted:

Yes, but my question is why? If we don't have effective treatment or intervention, why would we notify the person or their family? It's also massively condescending to think that we should talk to the family of someone with an illness rather than them, but setting all of that aside for a moment. We can continue via PM if this is derailing the thread?

Nah don't worry about it, I'm still sleepy and it was mostly random spitballing, so I'm done after this post. Oh also I don't have plat, so that factors in.

As for why, as ineffective as 95% of interventions and treatment are or whatever amount it might be, 5% is still more than nothing.

And I agree it's condescending and somewhat contrary to patient rights but of all mental illness I'm sure paranoid schizophrenia is near the bottom so far as direct acknowledgement of the issue goes. If you tell them they might have an issue and should talk to someone about it, that's just more evidence that They're out to get them. It's like the gangstalking people mentioned, literally brick walls to anything that doesn't reconfirm their existing suspicions.

e: really though, also, your experience sounds interesting, you should consider a thread about in Ask/Tell. I know I'd like to hear about the overlap of psychology and computational linguistics analysis or what have you, as well as the microdosing study.

Xen Tricks has a new favorite as of 15:52 on Sep 21, 2016

Whitlam
Aug 2, 2014

Some goons overreact. Go figure.

Glagha posted:

Seeing that raw milk thing, was the story from a few months back where a bunch of raw milk supporters were like "Hey, look how good raw milk is for you" and then they basically all got salmonella or something true?


Happened not too long ago in Australia, but a four year-old died.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/toddler-dies-four-children-seriously-ill-after-drinking-raw-cows-milk-20141210-124lx8.html

Then (if I remember correctly) the law was changed so that all unpasteurised milk had to be sold with some additive to make it taste foul, and the small handful of producers who make it got really pissed off. Even though they definitely weren't selling it for human consumption and encouraging people to drink it. Not at all.

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

Xen Tricks posted:

Nah don't worry about it, I'm still sleepy and it was mostly random spitballing, so I'm done after this post. Oh also I don't have plat, so that factors in.
My work email is []. That email is shared with Jim Fadiman and our secretary so don't send me porn please. I would love to do an ask/tell thread someday, but it's basically impossible when my study is running.

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Mr. 47
Jul 8, 2008

Well, I guess I'll just go fuck myself, then.
This winner posts relationship advice regularly, and occasionally even peppers it with minion memes with the "handle me at my worst, deserve me at my best" bullshit.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

Mr. 47 posted:

This winner posts relationship advice regularly, and occasionally even peppers it with minion memes with the "handle me at my worst, deserve me at my best" bullshit.



Your perfect man died at the age of 30 from a heart attack :(

Xen Tricks
Nov 4, 2010

WrenP-Complete posted:

My work email is That email is shared with Jim Fadiman and our secretary so don't send me porn please. I would love to do an ask/tell thread someday, but it's basically impossible when my study is running.

Lol no worries, you won't get anything bad. I honestly don't have too much more at the moment to say but if anything comes to mind I'll be sure you pop you a message. Good luck with the study by the way and hopefully you can get the time before too long to share a few things. Anyways back to IOSM


I can't wait for my prince charming to randomly drive me 4+ hours away, how romantic~~~~

also first flight to anywhere? Lady do you know how airports work these days?

Xen Tricks has a new favorite as of 16:12 on Sep 21, 2016

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




that would be more like 'an enabler', rather than 'a boyfriend'.

Coucho Marx
Mar 2, 2009

kick back and relax
Hey, c'mon, guys! She just wants someone that shares her sense of adventure!

Like eating candy for dinner. Or having stupid conversations about bullshit. Or getting junk food late at night. Or driving for ages even though she has a shift at Wal-Mart in fiVE HOURS gently caress TURN AROUND, JASON, I NEED TO GET MY SHIRT












So basically a stoner with a car.












call me












I have neither pot nor a car

Bonster
Mar 3, 2007

Keep rolling, rolling

Mr. 47 posted:

This winner posts relationship advice regularly, and occasionally even peppers it with minion memes with the "handle me at my worst, deserve me at my best" bullshit.



Lady, you don't live in a romance movie.

robotsinmyhead
Nov 29, 2005

Dude, they oughta call you Piledriver!

Clever Betty
I wish someone was as spontaneous as me! *boards an airplane for Bismark ND, alone and for no reason*

Oh right, plans aren't a bad idea.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

My Lovely Horse posted:

Just by terrorism, or specifically by a terrorist who got in as a Syrian refugee, because I feel like that would need a lot more skittles, like "replace pool with stadium" more.

What's the likelihood of choking to death on skittles?

It was actually "deaths by terror attack by refugee" https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...by-the-handful/

well why not posted:

that would be more like 'an enabler', rather than 'a boyfriend'.

P sure that's exactly what she wants.

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

robotsinmyhead posted:

I wish someone was as spontaneous as me! *boards an airplane for Bismark ND, alone and for no reason*

Oh right, plans aren't a bad idea.

She'd be perfect for that goon who was going to walk coast to coast with a broken stroller full of garbage

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

Wasn't he dating that cart/stroller?

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


WrenP-Complete posted:

My work email is x .
What do you think spoiler tags do?

Wow, a real life manic pixie dream girl.

Somebody has a new favorite as of 18:07 on Sep 21, 2016

Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

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College Slice

Mr. 47 posted:

This winner posts relationship advice regularly, and occasionally even peppers it with minion memes with the "handle me at my worst, deserve me at my best" bullshit.



I feel like she didn't watch The Blair Witch all the way through.

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

Tiggum posted:

What do you think spoiler tags do?

Wow, a real life manic pixie dream girl.

Well, two things. One, I didn't want to seem like I was shilling for my study here. Two, I was hoping they'd give people the impression I wouldn't want my email address quoted, so I could buy enough time to delete it once the person who I was responding to saw it. Hey, I tried.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



God, Tiggum.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Xen Tricks posted:

Nah don't worry about it, I'm still sleepy and it was mostly random spitballing, so I'm done after this post. Oh also I don't have plat, so that factors in.

As for why, as ineffective as 95% of interventions and treatment are or whatever amount it might be, 5% is still more than nothing.

And I agree it's condescending and somewhat contrary to patient rights but of all mental illness I'm sure paranoid schizophrenia is near the bottom so far as direct acknowledgement of the issue goes. If you tell them they might have an issue and should talk to someone about it, that's just more evidence that They're out to get them. It's like the gangstalking people mentioned, literally brick walls to anything that doesn't reconfirm their existing suspicions.

e: really though, also, your experience sounds interesting, you should consider a thread about in Ask/Tell. I know I'd like to hear about the overlap of psychology and computational linguistics analysis or what have you, as well as the microdosing study.

Forgive me for continuing and potentially worsening a derail, but the temptation is too much.

There are cases where an individual is incapable of functioning in society, but many of those cases stem more from past experiences and do follow a logic that, while influenced by the mental illness, is rational. Delusions of gangstalking, for example, can stem from someone being the victim of bullying by different groups who have no connection but pick on them for the same thing and/or do similar actions to them, coupled with little, no, or, worst of all, bad therapy.

The reason people with mental illnesses are reluctant or even against seeking therapy is the label "mentally ill" has an extremely negative connotation in society that can make you a pariah even when it's being treated. This is compounded even more so for schizophrenics; the fact the average person thinks having schizophrenia is enough grounds monitor someone on a near constant basis if not remove them from society essentially proves they're right to be paranoid. That's why your idea of going around the patient to get treatment is not only bad, but counter-productive.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

WrenP-Complete posted:

Well, two things. One, I didn't want to seem like I was shilling for my study here. Two, I was hoping they'd give people the impression I wouldn't want my email address quoted, so I could buy enough time to delete it once the person who I was responding to saw it. Hey, I tried.
Too late, I'm gonna be emailing you every day from now on, asking you for psychedelics

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

Tiggum posted:

Wow, a real life manic pixie dream girl.

Until she actually tries to do the things on her list and realises they are stupid romcom feel good clichés.

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Too late, I'm gonna be emailing you every day from now on, asking you for psychedelics

We have boilerplate for that, don't worry. And if people want to be part of the study they are welcome to email, of course. There's more info in TCC.

Elblanco
May 26, 2008

Tiggum posted:

Wow, a real life manic pixie dream girl.

To me she seems to be less dream girl and more of a nightmare.

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

wacky gremlin nightmare girl

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
None of those things really indicate what she's willing to bring to a relationship. Do these people ever think, "hmmm, maybe it's a bit selfish to expect my future partner to cater to my every whim?"

Also a partners sole quality being "they put up with me" isn't terribly flattering either.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

WrenP-Complete posted:

We have boilerplate for that, don't worry. And if people want to be part of the study they are welcome to email, of course. There's more info in TCC.

Please PM me immediately when you start testing which strains of weed may or may not cause psychedelic reactions, TIA.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

LITERALLY A BIRD posted:

wacky gremlin nightmare girl

So she's D.Va.

Mouse Dresser
Sep 4, 2002

This isn't Middle Earth, Quentin. There aren't enough noble quests to go around.

Panfilo posted:

None of those things really indicate what she's willing to bring to a relationship. Do these people ever think, "hmmm, maybe it's a bit selfish to expect my future partner to cater to my every whim?"

Also a partners sole quality being "they put up with me" isn't terribly flattering either.

Often, those demanding people think that just because they microwaved a burrito for their partner or did the laundry once last week that that's all it takes to be loving and take care of their partner.

They're generally the sort of person to post poo poo like this:

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax

LITERALLY A BIRD posted:

wacky gremlin nightmare girl

you rang?

Ein cooler Typ
Nov 26, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Donald Trump's skittles meme is based on a feminist meme with M&ms talking about how 1 in 10 men are rapists

I don't remember this much backlash when females were posting it though

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


Females

eta:



An article about a stabbing at the Eaton Centre quickly devolved. He also forgot to clarify that Toronto is full of queer, easily triggered immigrants. Shameful.

vv: Yes, I think it is.

cash crab has a new favorite as of 19:01 on Sep 21, 2016

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013





This is a parody picture right?

Howard Beale
Feb 22, 2001

It's like this, Peanut

Panfilo posted:

None of those things really indicate what she's willing to bring to a relationship.

she brings the ~RaNdOM~ spontaneity, of course!

Poor Miserable Gurgi
Dec 29, 2006

He's a wisecracker!

Ein cooler Typ posted:

Donald Trump's skittles meme is based on a feminist meme with M&ms talking about how 1 in 10 men are rapists

I don't remember this much backlash when females were posting it though

I seriously can't tell if this is an unsourced quote. If it isn't, then the difference is that 1 in 10 Syrian refugees aren't loving terrorists.

Glagha
Oct 13, 2008

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Ein cooler Typ posted:

Donald Trump's skittles meme is based on a feminist meme with M&ms talking about how 1 in 10 men are rapists

I don't remember this much backlash when females were posting it though

Source your quotes

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


Practical Demon posted:

I seriously can't tell if this is an unsourced quote.

A cursory glance at his rap sheet suggest no.

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

I thought that more than 1/10 men were rapists. Hm I think the study I read was about if men would say they would rape if given the chance without getting caught (like 40-50 percent) rather than had raped (maybe 10?).

Edit: I spent 10 minutes looking into this, and various rape statistics are way too contested to be able to draw conclusions.

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hyperhazard
Dec 4, 2011

I am the one lascivious
With magic potion niveous
Pshh, i don't see what you guys are up in arms about. Saving thousands of lives with a 1-in-1,000,000 chance of terrorism is exactly the same as going on dates with a 1-in-10 chance of being raped.

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