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Panfilo posted:He's completely nonplussed at kids meeting a horrible fate; Augustus Gloop is just a clog, Violet a convenient source of blueberry juice, and he sounds downright disappointed to discover the bad egg incinerator isn't working that day. "Help. Police. Murder."
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Wheat Loaf posted:"Help. Police. Murder." Needs to spoken be in a flat affect.
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 There's other disturbing imagery in that sequence that I never noticed. Wonka is Clockwork Orange'ing his guests, what a sick gently caress. I love it. I didn't like Depp's portrayal of the character, he's just a broken manchild with no edge to him. Wonka isn't a broken man; he breaks men.
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Gorson posted:Wonka isn't a broken man; he breaks men. So, Wonka is Bane? It's so obvious now
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Sep 20, 2016 21:12
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Gorson posted:
I liked Depp's version if just because he wasn't trying to be Gene Wilder, but still felt true to the book anyway. My irrationally irritating movie moment with that version of C&tCF was that (despite how the following words shouldn't even be able to go together) it would have been significantly better without Christopher Lee. At least they had the squirrels from the book though.
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Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory focused on Charlie. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory focused on Willy Wonka. They're both misnamed. That said, I prefer the focusing on Charlie. Wonka is better as an enigma.
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Sep 20, 2016 21:52
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I would have bet anything, my life even, that the 70s movie was called charlie and the chocolate factory. It was called willy wonka and the chocolate factory? What?
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I didn't care for Tim Burton's version, but I would have paid good money to see his take on Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator, that poo poo got weird. Weirder.
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God, I scarcely remember that. They went up to a space station resort or something of the kind that had been taken over by aliens, right?
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Thaddius the Large posted:I didn't care for Tim Burton's version, but I would have paid good money to see his take on Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator, that poo poo got weird. Weirder. It would be weird to see an entirely different team take on a sequel to something so old but pretty much. Burton would have probably been able to do justice to the weird monsters.
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Strudel Man posted:God, I scarcely remember that. They went up to a space station resort or something of the kind that had been taken over by aliens, right? Vermicious Knids to be precise
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Strudel Man posted:God, I scarcely remember that. They went up to a space station resort or something of the kind that had been taken over by aliens, right? That's about as much as I recall, yeah, just that it goes even further off the rails than the original. I think Charlie's other grandparents are suddenly no longer bedridden too?
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Sep 20, 2016 22:23
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Vermicious Knids to be precise With a hard K
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AnonSpore posted:With a hard K this is imperative. for some reason
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Panfilo posted:Not only that but Wonka nervously singing the whole time getting louder and louder makes it even more unnerving. That's exactly what it is. The tunnel scene is supposed to be unsettling and scary. Wonka's whole persona is like that. He's weeding out the pretenders and challenging the tourists. The tunnel sequence is one of the best in the entire film. EDIT: II always thought Prince would have been a great casting choice for a Willy Wonka remake. He practically WAS Willy Wonka. Eccentric, reclusive, misunderstood weirdo genious. Sub out Paisley Park for the chocolate factory, add some awesome music and there you go. Wonka even wore purple. Pricne would have been way better than Depp. BiggerBoat has a new favorite as of 23:46 on Sep 20, 2016 |
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WeAreTheRomans posted:So, Wonka is Bane? Have you seen what Charlie is currently up to in Bates Motel?
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BiggerBoat posted:That's exactly what it is. The tunnel scene is supposed to be unsettling and scary. Wonka's whole persona is like that. He's weeding out the pretenders and challenging the tourists. The tunnel sequence is one of the best in the entire film. loving hell, and that soundtrack would have been a thing and a half.
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PYF Favorite Movie Concepts That Will Never Be
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Tim Burton version has a Willy Wonka with a much more Michael Jackson creepy vibe. He's obsessed with childhood but utterly repulsed at actual children ; one kid hugs him and he looks incredibly uncomfortable. The little anamatronic into to his factory breaks down and bursts into flames and he's clapping and laughing while everyone else is  . I actually liked Christopher Lee's bits. He was that Fun Hating grownup Willy never wanted to be.  "Go ahead and leave. But I won't be here if you come back" *Wonka returns, and the entire loving row house is completely gone *
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They should have adapted the original version of the book where the oompa loompas are just Africans.
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Panfilo posted:Tim Burton version has a Willy Wonka with a much more Michael Jackson creepy vibe. He's obsessed with childhood but utterly repulsed at actual children ; one kid hugs him and he looks incredibly uncomfortable. The little anamatronic into to his factory breaks down and bursts into flames and he's clapping and laughing while everyone else is That scene also had one of the best jokes of the movie when young Willy runs away from home saying he's going to travel the world eating candy. Cut to montage of him walking with a backdrop of a bunch of flags, scene ends with him walking out of a museum exhibit called "Flags of the world."
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EmmyOk posted:Irritated by a film that doesn't exist yet is incredible I'd love to know how to watch TV lately and not get irritated with the incessant promotion of Sully and loving Deepwater Horizon.
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joshtothemaxx posted:Sully Every single commercial break.
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The bit from the Depp Charlie and the Chocolate Factory I liked was when Charlie's Grandpa says to Willy Wonka "I used to work for you", and Johnny Depp, (who previously had been all saccharine sweetness and weirdness), turns on him and snarls "You weren't one of the weasels who used to steal my recipes and betray me were you?", and when Grandpa says he wasn't, Depp snaps back to being all space cadetty and nice with a "Oh, well that's nice then."
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Gotham would be significantly improved if Bruce Wayne wasn't a character.
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Krinkle posted:I would have bet anything, my life even, that the 70s movie was called charlie and the chocolate factory. It was called willy wonka and the chocolate factory? What? They changed the name due to the association of "Charlie" with the Vietnam War.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Vermicious Knids to be precise SCRAM
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Panfilo posted:Everybody expected Wonka to be this friendly, benign guy but he goes out of his way to make all the guests as uncomfortable as possible. They're all (except for Charlie and grandpa) horrible people for different reasons but their own style of narcissism holds other people to a standard they can never live up to. I got some bad news for you
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thatdarnedbob posted:I got some bad news for you Yup, grandpa is on disability and is scamming the government but he sees Charlie's golden ticket..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AicW3Xp9EM&t=144s He's just as bad as Wonka's other guests. Charlie is the personification of innocence, everyone else in the movie is a shithead.
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Len posted:Gotham would be significantly improved if Bruce Wayne wasn't a character. But then there'd be no reason to have Alfred.
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Fil5000 posted:But then there'd be no reason to have Alfred. They could at least not have Bruce know everyone who would later be a villain.
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Len posted:They could at least not have Bruce know everyone who would later be a villain. I think it all has to do with that kid that they cast. He is so whiny looking. And not in a my parents are dead way.
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Gorson posted:Yup, grandpa is on disability and is scamming the government but he sees Charlie's golden ticket..... I always saw it as Grandpa Joe being so psyched by the idea of getting to go into the factory that he overcame years (decades?) of muscular atrophy in the time it took to sing a song. But sure, at the end he proved himself a dick with "oh, we broke the rules and lost our chance at a big payout? Well gently caress you, we'll ruin your business then." Charlie's mom was nice, though. Frig, she supported a kid, four seniors, and I believe that in the book Charlie's dad was there (unemployed after automation cost him his job at the toothpaste factory) on a laundry-woman's salary. My IIMM with that movie is not the movie itself, but the fact that nobody else I've ever talked to appreciates the scenes clearly thrown in for adults: The woman debating between her kidnapped husband's life and a case of Wonka bars, the scientist telling his computer "exactly what he can do with a lifetime supply of chocolate", and Charlie's awful teacher, the best character in this or any movie. "We're moving Friday's quizzes on the week's lesson to Monday before we've learned it. Today's Tuesday, but it doesn't matter in the slightest: pencils ready!" "TWO? What do you mean you only opened two? Well I don't know how to calculate that, so let's say you opened two hundred..."
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Sand Monster posted:They changed the name due to the association of "Charlie" with the Vietnam War. I thought it was to promote Wonka brand candy.
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Dahl really disliked the Wilder movie. I wonder what he would have thought about the Tim Burton one.
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Fil5000 posted:But then there'd be no reason to have Alfred. Yeah I'm going through the 2nd season on Netflix now and this is the right answer. Alfred makes up for pussy Bruce.
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This is more common in tv shows than movies, but: The fact that most shows/movies based on or in prison feel compelled to make a talent show/play a major plot point irritates me. I'm not sure if they were the first, but one of the worst was the later seasons of Oz. They were also pretty bad with sports events, like the boxing match and the basketball tournament. Who cares? Basically any sideplot that does nothing but act as filler (that sideplot with the nun and the guy who kept saying "peter marie" comes to mind) is my irrationally irritating movie moment. I guess Prison Break is an exception, but if they had done all 4 seasons in a prison I would bet money they'd resort to the old talent show and/or play cliche eventually.
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Don't forget the Oz "labyrinth".
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Two things that piss me off about the original Willy Wonka: 1. The opening scene where the kids get out of school and go to the candy shop. The shop owner lets the kids essentially throw their own sugar rave where he's literally chucking free candy at them, and can-barely-afford-a-loaf-of-bread-Charlie watches from the window. DUDE. GET IN THERE. 2. For Charlie's birthday, two of his grandpas pitched in and got him a Wonka bar. When he opens it, the mom looks flustered and says TWICE she doesn't approve of the idea, because it will get his hopes up. The grandparents are loving bedridden... Which means SHE was the one who had to go out and get the thing.... Right?
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Squalitude posted:Don't forget the Oz "labyrinth". I forgot that. I just looked it back up and they could have at least tried to make it an actual maze. There's only one way to go and it's the way to the center, it would take a minute or two tops to "solve". How is that going to give you time to "meditate"?
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