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Toxxupation posted:Raven is such a mess, Jesus Christ. She's my favorite DC character, and from what you've said it does seem to be better than the previous Marv Wolfman mini-series, so there's that at least.
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Superman and Trinity were both really fantastic this week. That bit on the roller coaster 
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Having read both Batman and Nightwing I do think it's pretty interesting how, for the first Rebirth crossover event, it's a true crossover (i.e., one continuing story spread out over all involved titles) over how either of the Big Two usually does it, where the crossover goes out of its way to split the group up as quickly as possible and then each involved title focuses on their specific titular character's perspective/storyline in the crossover. It's...a strange tack to take, especially since how it means you have to buy basically every book of the crossover for it to make the slightest modicum of sense. It's also bizarre to see like, Batman focus heavily on Batwoman and her team or Nightwing focus on Gotham Girl and Orphan to the point where neither book really feels like it has much of the stars it's named after. It's a good thing the trade dress features what part number each issue is, because I honestly think this crossover would make no loving sense if you didn't read all involved titles. Luckily, I do, but I really wonder what it's like if you just read Batman (or worse, just read Nightwing) and hit this story. Because, well, yeah. Marvel did the same thing earlier this year with Spider-Women, and it even involved three titles like DC with Silk/Spider-Woman/Spider-Gwen, but those were all fairly low-selling books that weren't exactly like the cornerstone of Marvel. In contrast, utilizing Batman and Detective and Grayson like this is three of the more/most high-profile books DC has right now, so I wonder if it's gonna bite them in the butt. On the other hand, maybe they're just figuring that if you're buying Batman/Detective you're probably buying Grayson anyways, and you'll at least buy it for this specific crossover.
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Sep 22, 2016 01:18
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That's really my preferred way of doing a crossover. Just tell the story in five parts or whatever, it always feels pretty forced to me when a character-specific book is shanghaied for an issue to tell me what, I don't know, X-Man or whoever, is up to in the midst of the larger story.
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I'm all in on Monster Men after 2 issues, but I'll admit I'm a sucker for any monster-themed story timed around October/Halloween/horror movie month. And I was already buying all the titles anyway so I don't have to go out of my way. And Superman and Trinity were just  I didn't have a great idea of what Trinity was supposed to be about, so I thought maybe it would be a title where Rebirth starts to slip a little bit, but nope, it just keeps on trucking.
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Sep 22, 2016 01:42
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I think my preferred method is the split-up way as well, but with the caveat of an Alpha/Omega title to open and close the event. Although the true crossover method gives opportunity for character interaction not often/never seen before, the tradeoff is that it often feels like everyone loses their specific character voice/there's no real distinction or author perspective in the titles because everyone has a hand in everything. It also make the crossover so continuity-heavy you can, as a reader, lose the thread of what's going on because there's no barriers between titles. It also feels most like you're getting a story split up into parts (because, well, you are) to the point where it's hard to justify why the event isn't just an OGN or collected as a trade to be released all at once. Plus it's like, if you don't give a poo poo about crossovers or only read some of the titles in it, then the story still more-or-less works as a standalone "here's what X was doing while this other, Y thing happened". Alpha/Omega oneshots allow for the people to care to get the sort of general thesis of what the event's about while not bogging the involved titles in exposition some readers might not want, and it's usually where the heavy character interactions go because all the characters group up in those issues. That all being said, Spider-Women is probably my favorite crossover event that came out this year, but largely because it felt like everyone still kept their writing style going in and the writers seemed clearly energized to write each others' characters. Even Latour briefly improved from mediocre and it definitely cohered into a solid thing, so the other perspective can definitely work.
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Sep 22, 2016 01:46
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God drat I really loved Trinity, Superman, and the Monster Men crossover.
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Sep 22, 2016 04:26
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The only thing missing from Monster Men is Damien. Hopefully he shows up at the end of part 6 and beats all the Monster Men and arrests Hugo Strange.
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Detective No. 27 posted:The only thing missing from Monster Men is Damien. Hopefully he shows up at the end of part 6 and beats all the Monster Men and arrests Hugo Strange. He's got a Teen Titans team to build.
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Sep 22, 2016 06:47
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The first arc of Justice League felt underwhelming despite how dire everything was. I hope the next arc scales things back.
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Sep 22, 2016 07:52
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I hope Hugo Strange is just working out nude till they find him in the last issue.
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Sep 22, 2016 11:03
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Roth posted:The first arc of Justice League felt underwhelming despite how dire everything was. I hope the next arc scales things back. I hope the next arc isn't all about setting up another arc
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For a sec I thought you were replying regarding Batman, and I thought, "Well, the next arc in Batman is I am Suicide, and we are going to get the Justice League/Suicide Squad event...." ...but again, the other half of that advertised event is Justice League, so I could sadly totally see them setting up for the crossover starting next issue.
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Sep 22, 2016 12:05
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New Super-Man's Gene Luen Yang just received a MacArthur genius grant of $625,000 over five years  http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2016/09/22/gene-luen-yang-on-winning-a-macarthur-genius-grant/
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Sep 22, 2016 12:28
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Now Marvel and DC each have a certified genius.
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Sep 22, 2016 17:26
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Superman is the best DC comic I've read in years and continues to get better. I was never a big fan of Tomasi before this book but he just knows how to write Clark and Lois so well.
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X-O posted:Superman is the best DC comic I've read in years and continues to get better. I was never a big fan of Tomasi before this book but he just knows how to write Clark and Lois so well. That last page was a really wonderful cap to an excellent issue.
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Sep 22, 2016 17:39
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X-O posted:Superman is the best DC comic I've read in years and continues to get better. I was never a big fan of Tomasi before this book but he just knows how to write Clark and Lois so well. His Batman and Robin was killer and basically his proto-Batman in how it ruminates on father/son relationships.
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Sep 22, 2016 17:58
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Raven seems good enough to continue. I definitely feel that it has a lot of the problems Toxx mentioned, and that bit where Raven makes some girls think they're pregnant was really dumb. Edit - Also, I never really read Green Arrow before Rebirth, but I really like Emiko Queen. I really hope she's the secret sixth member of Teen Titans and becomes BFFs with Damian. Roth fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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Sep 22, 2016 22:56
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Roth posted:Raven seems good enough to continue. I definitely feel that it has a lot of the problems Toxx mentioned, and that bit where Raven makes some girls think they're pregnant was really dumb. You should read the Lemire Green Arrow run
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Sep 23, 2016 06:56
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Nothing to see here.
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Sep 23, 2016 07:41
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Ok then
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Sep 23, 2016 13:29
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Is that El Diablo
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Sep 23, 2016 13:33
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hey dare
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Sep 23, 2016 13:40
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Well, it's better than Identity Crisis.
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Sep 23, 2016 15:14
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He said venom prison record so he could be talking about Bane making it DC related.
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Sep 23, 2016 15:35
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Madkal posted:He said venom prison record so he could be talking about Bane making it DC related. Yes, but that makes it untagged spoilers for the next Batman arc, so the ban makes sense.
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Sep 23, 2016 15:39
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I was lukewarm on King's run of Batman so far (good, was about to drop to trade-wait), but now Night of the Monster Men is really fun and I'm following a goddamn crossover event. 
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Sep 23, 2016 18:25
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Shipping thread just announced Wacky Raceland is a 6 issue series. Is this new? Because I was under the impression it was an ongoing, did the numbers do so bad they just straight-up cancel it after its first arc or was it always plotted as a limited series?
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Sep 24, 2016 22:34
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Toxxupation posted:Shipping thread just announced Wacky Raceland is a 6 issue series. Is this new? Because I was under the impression it was an ongoing, did the numbers do so bad they just straight-up cancel it after its first arc or was it always plotted as a limited series? It's original solicit says nothing of it being a mini. Issue #4 is where they added the "of 6" part. Here, from my invoices quote:JUN160317D WACKY RACELAND #3 3.99 quote:JUL160387D WACKY RACELAND #4 (OF 6) 3.99 Rhyno fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Sep 24, 2016 |
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Sep 24, 2016 23:26
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I feel like Flintstones and Scooby Doo are the only ones of these Hanna Barbera adaptations that will have any sort of staying power.
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Sep 24, 2016 23:31
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Roth posted:I feel like Flintstones and Scooby Doo are the only ones of these Hanna Barbera adaptations that will have any sort of staying power. http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2016/2016-08.html 100 Scooby Apocalypse 4 $3.99 DC 28,148 106 Future Quest 4 $3.99 DC 25,472 128 Flintstones 2 $3.99 DC 19,612 170 Wacky Raceland 3 $3.99 DC 13,648
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Sep 24, 2016 23:38
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Roth posted:I feel like Flintstones and Scooby Doo are the only ones of these Hanna Barbera adaptations that will have any sort of staying power. Pretty much true of the cartoons too.
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Sep 24, 2016 23:40
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Teenage Fansub posted:http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2016/2016-08.html Huh, that's surprising. I figured Flintstones would be selling more since it's a bigger franchise in general.
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I feel like the Scooby title got more hubbub about it and has been kept alive in more ways than just "cereal commercial" (idk about any other Flintstones media, but I probably just wasn't paying attention). In any case, I'd figure that attention would've gotten more folks to check it out.
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I'm sorry I'm not buying the good hanana Barbara books and helped one be cancelled. They are on my wishlist. 
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I wouldn't exactly call Wacky Raceland "good". It was different, to be sure...but good? Eh. ed: The irony of this is that its cancellation means I'm definitely going to keep up with it. I was on the verge of dropping it after two straight issues of the dullest "look how tragically terrible everyone's life is" storytelling, but since it has an end and I've already read half of it I'll keep going till it's cancelled. NieR Occomata fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Sep 25, 2016 |
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Sep 25, 2016 00:27
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Teenage Fansub posted:http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2016/2016-08.html Future Quest is probably going to die more because Doc can't keep up the schedule more than due to sales. Parker literally had to draw half of the last issue himself.
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Sep 25, 2016 03:29
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I'd take it just carrying on with Steve Rude if it has to.
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Toxxupation posted:I wouldn't exactly call Wacky Raceland "good". It was different, to be sure...but good? Eh. Different, yeah. I think I probably said this before, but it just feels... busy, without also feeling substantial to me. Maybe it's because I never really watched the original series and don't have a handle on the cartoon personalities of all these characters who've now gotten grimdarked up, and without that basis I'm left to try and keep track of all the racers, and now their cars too? It doesn't grab me enough, but I wish it did.
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