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I'd say she was a fine choice for the movie, looks great in the role. And god drat, teagone, you're a force of nature. I didn't think much of the little teasers but you managed to make it into something I'm genuinely interested in seeing!
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Teagone's trailer is good but 90% of that is the music because really what else are you going to use for a GITS trailer?
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I wish they had cast a Japanese lead...
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Teagone's trailer is good but 90% of that is the music because really what else are you going to use for a GITS trailer? I'm willing to bet whoever made those short teases never saw the original. The trailer gave me goosebumps, but I don't know if that was a reaction to recognizing the music or if it was the trailer in general (music and visuals). I feel the music (and being familiar with the source material) gave me a context for the trailer that might not be otherwise apparent. I'm interested if there's anyone in the thread who didn't see the original. Did the music work for you? Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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flosofl posted:I'm willing to bet whoever made those short teases never saw the original. I saw it but so long ago I'm not sure it counts. The effectiveness of the music is less about recognizability and more about it being unnerving in a novel way, i.e. not the usual high-pitched violins or not-so-subtle heartbeat percussion.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E94o7ONmR10 I'll watch that.
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Vegetable posted:But also seriously Scarlett Johansson just looks way out of place in this movie. Another white girl might have done a better job but seems like they're running serious Japanese themes so it just looks whitewashed as gently caress. Talking as somebody who hasn't watched the original movie and didn't think this was that big a deal when it all kicked off. So you don't think it's a bit egregious to take a character that is explicitly of colour and cast a white person in that role, considering the representational issues that are inherent in Hollywood? I wouldn't be surprised if the movie tanks because of that.
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Vagabundo posted:So you don't think it's a bit egregious to take a character that is explicitly of colour and cast a white person in that role, considering the representational issues that are inherent in Hollywood? Several of the Section 9 members in this movie adaptation aren't Asian. It's not just the main character. The thread for the movie had some leaked pictures like a month ago: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3772289 "People writing and talking about it on the internet" also isn't representative of the movie-going audience. Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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Sep 22, 2016 20:00
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Vagabundo posted:I wouldn't be surprised if the movie tanks because of that. I'd be shocked, but I authentically appreciate your optimism.
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Vagabundo posted:So you don't think it's a bit egregious to take a character that is explicitly of colour and cast a white person in that role, considering the representational issues that are inherent in Hollywood? japanese people are white that's why characters in anime have white skin.
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Jack's Flow posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E94o7ONmR10 Looks pretty awesome, a familiar story but a great cast.
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Whitewashed movies have a tendency of bombing, but they also have a tendency of being poo poo for reasons besides whitewashing, so if GiTS actually turns out to be good, who knows what'll happen? 
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Vagabundo posted:So you don't think it's a bit egregious to take a character that is explicitly of colour and cast a white person in that role, considering the representational issues that are inherent in Hollywood? Maybe I'm just jaded from the debate as an Asian person because nothing will change. They whitewashed a Marvel movie and it's gonna make like five hundred million bucks anyway. 
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Vegetable posted:I had and still have literally no idea what GITS is about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7n8eQDsVSQ
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Yeah, I'm gonna wait to make any judgments on Johansson until after seeing some actual bits of acting from her. And by that, I mean bits of dialog that convey some sense of character, not just staring and pointing a gun.
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Teagone, you majestic son of a bitch, your trailer has made it to Nerdist. http://nerdist.com/ghost-in-the-shell-fan-edit-teaser-is-beyond-perfect/
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Vegetable posted:I had and still have literally no idea what GITS is about. But Hollywood isn't entirely incapable of adapting Japanese franchises with some modicum of respect -- I'm thinking of Godzilla (2014). Sure, but Godzilla (and Edge of Tomorrow - is it still called that?) didn't cast white people as Asian characters. That's pretty much where the condemnation against GITS is coming from. Also, GITS (orginally, at least) was basically a police procedural set in the future where people had the technology to augment themselves as semi-robotic entities.
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Man I just got teagone's username
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Sep 23, 2016 04:32
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Ha yeah that's me last year. Just go by Tim Gonzalez at this point.
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Gonz posted:Teagone, you majestic son of a bitch, your trailer has made it to Nerdist. Sweet! Thanks for the heads up. Retweeted them  Jenny Angel posted:Man I just got teagone's username kiimo posted:Ha yeah that's me last year. Just go by Tim Gonzalez at this point.  It was my nickname in college. Which I found endearing because it's shorter to say Tim, but I think my friends thought teagone sounded cooler or something. Also I'm Filipino, so my surname ends with an S. I think that's why it does anyways, haha. [edit] I always feel like a dick/asshat whenever I correct any misspelling of my last name, lmao. teagone fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Sep 23, 2016 |
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The main character in GITS is a robbit, a ghost in a shell  she no longer has a race
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Zzulu posted:The main character in GITS is a robbit, a ghost in a shell
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Zzulu posted:The main character in GITS is a robbit, a ghost in a shell I pictured a robot hobbit after reading this. I laughed.
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I mean most of the characters in Attack on Titan are "westerners" if I remember right and I don't think the Japanese live action cast a bunch of white people with a couple Asians. White washing is definitely a bad and hosed up thing but with anime I'm tempted to go whatever. Like, what race is "Bulma Briefs"?? Least they got Beat Takeshi, that's always a good sign
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There is a recurring trend in a lot of Japanese media to feature super stylized versions of Western culture, usually drawing from ancient times. Attack on Titan as noted was one of those, but there are others. That being said, it doesn't really apply in this case, but the thematic elements of GitS also transcend Japanese culture too.
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There's also an element of "Christ almighty, Asian actors have a hard enough time getting jobs even when we accept being typecast as karate masters and immigrants with funny accents, could you AT LEAST not take really interesting characters we loving CREATED who are EXPLICITLY JAPANESE and give them to super famous white people who are in no way hurting for employment opportunities?"
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TheFallenEvincar posted:I mean most of the characters in Attack on Titan are "westerners" if I remember right and I don't think the Japanese live action cast a bunch of white people with a couple Asians. White washing is definitely a bad and hosed up thing but with anime I'm tempted to go whatever. Spergatory posted:There's also an element of "Christ almighty, Asian actors have a hard enough time getting jobs even when we accept being typecast as karate masters and immigrants with funny accents, could you AT LEAST not take really interesting characters we loving CREATED who are EXPLICITLY JAPANESE and give them to super famous white people who are in no way hurting for employment opportunities?" This is the real problem here. There's no white community in Japan who gets excluded from films "because it won't sell unless the lead is Japanese".
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Take August Wilson's Pulitzer & Tony award winning play, add Denzel Washington and Viola Davis ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2m6Jvp0bUw Washington and Viola are both stepping back into the roles that won them Tony awards when they starred in the play's 2010 reprisal and Washington is also directing. Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Sep 27, 2016 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNpNwIJtpIs Who am I to judge?
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That was good. And the visuals are insane and I love it.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Take August Wilson's Pulitzer & Tony award winning play, add Denzel Washington and Viola Davis ... Got some serious Doubt vibes from that. It's gonna be so good.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Take August Wilson's Pulitzer & Tony award winning play, add Denzel Washington and Viola Davis ... Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk that looks good. I hate to use the term "tour de force" but it was like in that one trailer you could physically feel both of their performances.
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Vagabundo posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNpNwIJtpIs Oh god its me, I am the one who guffawed at the Mr/Dr bit in the trailer.
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BonoMan posted:Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk that looks good. I hate to use the term "tour de force" but it was like in that one trailer you could physically feel both of their performances. They were stepping into some goddamn gigantic shoes so they'd better force the hell out of de tour.  Here's James Earl Jones earning his second Tony Award for Best Performance by a Leading Actor in the original 1987 Broadway run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_kGtQmvrVI They also got Tonys for Best Play, Best Performance by a Featured Actress in a Play and Best Direction, plus a Pulitzer. The only reason it didn't get turned into a film before now was that the playwright August Wilson refused to let it be adapted until they attached an African American director to it.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Take August Wilson's Pulitzer & Tony award winning play, add Denzel Washington and Viola Davis ... Wow.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Take August Wilson's Pulitzer & Tony award winning play, add Denzel Washington and Viola Davis ... Holy moly this is going to be good LordPants posted:Oh god its me, I am the one who guffawed at the Mr/Dr bit in the trailer. I actually thought it was pretty funny too, don't worry.
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LordPants posted:Oh god its me, I am the one who guffawed at the Mr/Dr bit in the trailer. Nope. I was right there with you.
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LordPants posted:Oh god its me, I am the one who guffawed at the Mr/Dr bit in the trailer. Mads Mikkelsen's delivery makes it. I laughed too.
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teagone posted:Mads Mikkelsen's delivery makes it. I laughed too. Yeah it's great. If it was just a Mr/Dr joke that would be a bit tired... but the way it kind of keeps stacking on itself makes it funny.
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