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Haha oh man thanks for this. I always try to tell people this supposed thing actually existed and they think I'm just making poo poo up
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Collateral Damage posted:There have been a few games that were controlled through EEG readings, but mostly as gimmicks. As far as I know there's not been any commercially successful "brain game". The Star Wars one at least sold pretty well.
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Nostalgia4Dicks posted:I swear this was a thing but maybe I made it up in my kid brain Holy poo poo, you just knocked loose my memory of doing the exact same thing at London Drugs when I was a kid.
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Reminds me of when I was in the hospital and I annoyed the doctor because I noticed I could play with the blood oxygen readout and stuff by holding my breath and was doing silly things like trying to draw pictures.
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I was looking for a completely crazy ad I recall seeing for a meditation-based PC game. I couldn't find the ad, but I did find out that they're still making and selling the darn thing, complete with Andrew Weil and Deepak Chopra DLC: https://www.wilddivine.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Tk_DtnOLM Along similar lines is the japan-only BioTetris, a variant of Tetris for the Nintendo64 that speeds up the drop rate when your heart rate increases. (!) 
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moller posted:
This would quickly turn into a horrible feedback loop for me. No wonder they never released it outside of Japan.
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I think that's the goal. You can detect stress fairly reliably* by using heart rate and a few other things, turning that into a feedback loop so part of the game is literally a part of the game. I think there was a horror game that ran on that premise too. *: By which I mean, well enough to use for toys and games, not to use in court.
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Keiya posted:I think that's the goal. You can detect stress fairly reliably* by using heart rate and a few other things, turning that into a feedback loop so part of the game is literally a part of the game. I think there was a horror game that ran on that premise too. You could show in court "this man is stressed." the problem is the quack claim of lie detection.
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Non Serviam posted:You could show in court "this man is stressed." the problem is the quack claim of lie detection. If I were ever in the position of being put on a lie detector I'm sure my stress levels would be through the roof. Mostly in fear of being falsely found guilty. It would be a vicious cycle.
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Humphreys posted:If I were ever in the position of being put on a lie detector I'm sure my stress levels would be through the roof. Mostly in fear of being falsely found guilty. It would be a vicious cycle. Or you're actually guilty of everything.
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Humphreys posted:If I were ever in the position of being put on a lie detector I'm sure my stress levels would be through the roof. Mostly in fear of being falsely found guilty. It would be a vicious cycle. Just be so stressed that every answer makes the needle peak. They'll have no baseline.
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I had to take a lie detector once for a 911 dispatcher job. They did it in the police station, in an interagation room, with this hard rear end motherfucker who was like the library detective on Seinfeld. I failed the test. Gee, I wonder why I was stressed? I still kick myself for admitting to him that he was right on one question I was lying about (how many years it had been since I had smoked pot). I should've just denied everything and grilled him about why his little magic box isn't allowed as evidence. It's easy to forget sometimes that there are still olds out there who genuinely believe smoking pot is a horrible irredeemable character flaw.
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A friend of mine missed out on a job because she openly admitted to smoking pot occasionally and having a permit for it. (This was in BC) Granted the job was for the police, but it was as IT support, not like it was anything "customer" facing.
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Collateral Damage posted:A friend of mine missed out on a job because she openly admitted to smoking pot occasionally and having a permit for it. (This was in BC) Was she going to be tested regardless of her answer? If there were no tests, I would have just not admitted to anything.
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Hindsight and so on. I don't know if there were tests.
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The polygraph machine is a prop used in interrogation. Its job is to intimidate the subject and help the interrogator put pressure on weak points in the subject’s story. The hope is that the subject will break and admit to the lie, or act visibly nervous as assessed by the interrogator. The machine’s reading is irrelevant. You don’t “pass” or “fail” based on anything the machine says. It’s all at the interrogator’s discretion. Never voluntarily subject yourself to a polygraph test. The result can only be used against you; a “pass” is worth very little. Pre‐employment polygraphs are different in that refusing the test and failing it have the same result: you don’t get the job. So you can take one of those if you want, just try not to be intimidated. Platystemon has a new favorite as of 16:36 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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Platystemon posted:Pre‐employment polygraphs 
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My Lovely Horse posted:Your country is hosed in the head It's usually for defense/security stuff, not your normal 9-5 office jobs.
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blugu64 posted:It's usually for defense/security stuff, not your normal 9-5 office jobs. Working 9-5 instead of 8-16 is equally hosed up though.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Working 9-5 instead of 8-16 is equally hosed up though. This message brought to you by Folgers®.
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Platystemon posted:This message brought to you by Folgers®. who among us hasn't pulled a 21 hour day at some point?
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Instant Sunrise posted:who among us hasn't pulled a 21 hour day at some point? Working? Nah. Playing video games? Weeeelllll...
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There are at least three jokes here:
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What the hell else are you going to do 8-9?
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Jerry Cotton posted:Working? Nah. Playing video games? Weeeelllll... Right? Given the proper amount of food and sugar I can play until my butt gets numb.
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who the gently caress wants to be at work for 8, I work 10-6 (or 10-18 if you guys are from a bad country) because getting up to be at work for 8 is for losers  Working 8AM-4PM is an obsolete technology, IMO.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Working 9-5 instead of 8-16 is equally hosed up though. I don't believe in the metric system USA USA USA
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Working any fixed hours is obsolete tech.  One of the best things about my job is flex time. Some days I'm in at 8. Some days it's 10. I recommend it highly.
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Jerry Cotton posted:What the hell else are you going to do 8-9? Dress, eat breakfast, commute. The difference is when you wake up.  drat morning people have got us doing things their way most of the year thanks to Daylight Saving Time. 
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TotalLossBrain posted:Working any fixed hours is obsolete tech. Then again, we caught some bad ransomware a few months ago and I'm not entirely sure remote access could even be a vector, but maybe it's for the best there aren't any links between work and my home system.
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I always thought "9-5" was weird because everyone pretty much works 8-5 with an hour for lunch. At least around here.
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I came in late so I could leave early okay?
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I recently got a new job that's working from home, and I have complete freedom to work whenever I feel like and take breaks any time. It's doing something I love, and I get to work on some really amazing projects. The other benefit is I do much better work, and am willing to put in more hours if needed. There's no more worrying about if I'll have enough time to finish a task or if I'll have to stay late, no more having to push through mental fatigue just because I can't take breaks... it's great! After almost 7 years of waking up at 5:30am, leaving by 6:30, commuting for an hour, working outside in any weather until 4:00, then having to drive back in rush hour traffic, this new job is just about the most incredible opportunity. More companies should be willing to try it - sure, there's startup costs and it requires somewhat responsible employees, but if they have all that it works just as well as an office. There are so many jobs which could be done from home on a flexible schedule, especially with stuff like Slack and Zoom, allowing employees to be in contact with each other constantly. I'm often in a Zoom room for a few hours each day, talking with other employees, bullshitting, having client meetings, and even giving them remote control over screen-share when I can't figure something out.
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The Gasmask posted:I recently got a new job that's working from home I did this for years, and be warned: the lack of a physical separation between work and free time means that there's a gigantic chance that you'll get yourself burned out. It seems good now, but if your workplace is your bedroom or living room, then a few months down the line you'll never be able to really relax there again. Keep a very close eye on your emotional health, because you will crash and burn if you don't
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My Lovely Horse posted:Coming in to work is obsolete tech. I could do 90% of my job from home, while doing other stuff even, but IT won't play ball. That's included in my options, I just don't like it. I like going in to the office. It's a nice 25-75 minute bike ride, depending on the route. It's relaxing and my exercise for the day.
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Sentient Data posted:I did this for years, and be warned: the lack of a physical separation between work and free time means that there's a gigantic chance that you'll get yourself burned out. It seems good now, but if your workplace is your bedroom or living room, then a few months down the line you'll never be able to really relax there again. Keep a very close eye on your emotional health, because you will crash and burn if you don't Thanks for the heads up. I've heard this warning from a few people, so I've been keeping it in the back of my mind. Luckily, we have lulls so it'll be busy for a bit, dead for a bit, and so on.
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I work in academia. As long as I show up to teach classes nobody gives a poo poo what I do. And for some dumbfuck reason I'm probably going to quit for a 9-5 20-hour shift job soon.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Coming in to work is obsolete tech. I could do 90% of my job from home, while doing other stuff even, but IT won't play ball. It shouldn't be a vector because nothing executes on your end unless you have an odd setup. Remote access is usually basically a glorified web browser.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Coming in to work is obsolete tech. I could do 90% of my job from home, while doing other stuff even, but IT won't play ball. Our CEO wants butts in seats because... Collaboration! Innovation! Synergy! Yet my closest team member is a 3-hour drive away. Second-closest is a 4-hour flight away. So I sit in a bullpen with four others that work on completely unrelated topics. We chat about the weather. What happened is that people abused the wfh allowances, new CEO wanted to make a statement / turn this ship around / weed out those that didn't even bother VPNing in, and in the process hosed it up for the rest of us. No, I'm not at Yahoo, but it's the same basic story. Obsolete companies with obsolete practices.
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Kwyndig posted:It shouldn't be a vector because nothing executes on your end unless you have an odd setup. Remote access is usually basically a glorified web browser. Many companies still use VPN for remote access and a lot of them don't have proper access list to limit connectivity to jump servers, web apps, or what ever.
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