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Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

WrenP-Complete posted:

My clinical supervisor has suggested giving mentally ill people Bluetooth headsets to reduce stigma of talking to yourself. I told him it will just increase stigma of headsets.

A guy I used to work with had a previous job in some subset of social services, and he said they did just this when they took mentally ill patients on field trips and the like.

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Your Gay Uncle
Feb 16, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

OAquinas posted:

I imagine it'll go almost exactly like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5_kqijQHv4

I think this is a bit more likely

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbU59dYlHUA

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Jumpingmanjim posted:



Dad gay, so what's militant cousin
Looks like Baron Harkonnen's really let himself go.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 15 hours!

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

that's a look that screams "I'm one heated verbal argument from spraying innocent bystanders with bullets and/or pooping myself".

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Azathoth posted:

that's a look that screams "I'm one heated verbal argument from spraying innocent bystanders with bullets and/or pooping myself".

Heated argument is optional. In America, you can be shot dead for failing to hold the door open for a woman.

red19fire
May 26, 2010


Can some Oregoon please ask this dork if he was in the military and record the answer. I am willing to bet real american dollars the answer is some variant of 'quit boot camp 6 weeks before finishing but the Commandant himself said I can call myself a Marine' or 'recruiter told me i'm too tough for the marines'.

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!

red19fire posted:

Can some Oregoon please ask this dork if he was in the military and record the answer. I am willing to bet real american dollars the answer is some variant of 'quit boot camp 6 weeks before finishing but the Commandant himself said I can call myself a Marine' or 'recruiter told me i'm too tough for the marines'.

it doesn't really matter cause even the most hardened vets know it's loving stupid to dress/act this way

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

red19fire posted:

Can some Oregoon please ask this dork if he was in the military and record the answer. I am willing to bet real american dollars the answer is some variant of 'quit boot camp 6 weeks before finishing but the Commandant himself said I can call myself a Marine' or 'recruiter told me i'm too tough for the marines'.

Why the qualifiers? Fluffy Unicorn or whatever his retard name was flat out said he was in the Marines. And then the Marines said "no he wasn't". My theory is the more cosplay army man these guys are the higher the percentage of stolen valor

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
I don’t get why stolen valor losers pretend to be Marines.

The Coast Guard is more prestigious.

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Platystemon posted:

I don’t get why stolen valor losers pretend to be Marines.

The Coast Guard is more prestigious.
It's not about the prestige, it's about the toughness, at least for scrawny losers like the one in that picture. They're not physically intimidating, but they really love to shoot their mouth off, yet without their guns, they know that they would lose any actual fight, so they claim to be Marines because everyone knows that all Marines are tough and can kick anyone's rear end and no one fucks with Marines. It's everything that they want to be, but aren't, so they go play dress-up (seriously, love that description) and claim to be something they're not because although they may not be tough, people treat them like they are. The idiots for whom it's about prestige invariably claim to be Navy Seals, Army Rangers, Delta Force, Green Berets, etc.

red19fire
May 26, 2010

Platystemon posted:

I don’t get why stolen valor losers pretend to be Marines.

The Coast Guard is more prestigious.

Azathoth posted:

It's not about the prestige, it's about the toughness, at least for scrawny losers like the one in that picture. They're not physically intimidating, but they really love to shoot their mouth off, yet without their guns, they know that they would lose any actual fight, so they claim to be Marines because everyone knows that all Marines are tough and can kick anyone's rear end and no one fucks with Marines. It's everything that they want to be, but aren't, so they go play dress-up (seriously, love that description) and claim to be something they're not because although they may not be tough, people treat them like they are. The idiots for whom it's about prestige invariably claim to be Navy Seals, Army Rangers, Delta Force, Green Berets, etc.

This is what I looked like in Iraq in 2005, after about 5 months:

I was a diesel mechanic, pressed into duty as the head of the base sentry section in a fairly remote infantry/tank outpost without running water. I saw a tank get flipped over by an IED. I watched through my scope as a guy buried a bomb in the road, but we couldn't arrest or shoot him because he came from an Iraqi government 'mineral factory' and to do so might cause an international incident. These cosplayers and wannabes would poo poo their pants and cry if they had to actually leave the safety of their tough guy internet forums. Or kill themselves. Or shoot themselves in the foot and try to get a purple heart (literally happens).

And i consider myself an absolute pile of poo poo coward compared to OIF/OEF infantry/tank dudes and most vietnam & WW2 veterans. My neighbor was a machine gunner in vietnam, guy on my fire department was a flamethrowerin vietnam, My friend's dad was a tunnel rat in vietnam. I am nothing by comparison.

For stolen valor animals, it's not enough to be an admin clerk, mechanic, bulk fuel specialist, or any of the support roles that make up 95% of the military, that's why the almost universally claim to be some kind of high speed black ops murder machine, because they want to be the star of the show. Stomping the guts out of these scumbags should be considered the moral imperative of every citizen.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Platystemon posted:

Heated argument is optional. In America, you can be shot dead for failing to hold the door open for a woman.

It really doesn't take much with these people. When I worked as a field technician I had a Walmart customer all but threaten to shoot me with his shoulder holstered snub nose .38 (pulled his jacket aside so I could see it and asked "want to rethink that statement?") when I told him I couldn't ring him up at the photo counter because I didn't actually work for the store.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

red19fire posted:

This is what I looked like in Iraq in 2005, after about 5 months:


I hope you did all your warfighting while making those kissy lips ;-*

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Probation
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Plus, OPB's Conrad Wilson and The Oregonian/OregonLive's Maxine Bernstein update us on the last full week of the government's case against the Malheur refuge occupiers.

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Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts



Aw jeeze. He can't close his left eye. And it moves independently of the right one. Jesus christ. I can't make fun of him for his face anymore. I'm a monster.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



red19fire posted:

For stolen valor animals, it's not enough to be an admin clerk, mechanic, bulk fuel specialist, or any of the support roles that make up 95% of the military, that's why the almost universally claim to be some kind of high speed black ops murder machine, because they want to be the star of the show. Stomping the guts out of these scumbags should be considered the moral imperative of every citizen.

I've always liked the idea of bringing back exile as a punishment. Strip them of citizenship and banish them from the country. Not sure where they could be sent, but at least it wouldn't be here.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Geoj posted:

It really doesn't take much with these people. When I worked as a field technician I had a Walmart customer all but threaten to shoot me with his shoulder holstered snub nose .38 (pulled his jacket aside so I could see it and asked "want to rethink that statement?") when I told him I couldn't ring him up at the photo counter because I didn't actually work for the store.

And this kind of this resulting from the demands to always have a gun on hand surprises no one except the dumbest pro-carry advocates.

GAYS FOR DAYS
Dec 22, 2005

by exmarx
Is fake military twig dude wearing ballet flats?

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

GAYS FOR DAYS posted:

Is fake military twig dude wearing ballet flats?
Guy probably wears shoes that are way too big for him because true manly patriots don't wear boys size 6 sneakers.

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Krinkle posted:

Aw jeeze. He can't close his left eye. And it moves independently of the right one. Jesus christ. I can't make fun of him for his face anymore. I'm a monster.
Legit question, isn't there plastic surgery that can at least bring him back somewhere closer to normal?

From that video, he's clearly got a whole bunch of damage underneath too, but I'd figure that there'd be a surgeon who could figure out a way to make him not look like a still photo of a boxer getting punched in the face.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

Prokhor Zakharov posted:

it doesn't really matter cause even the most hardened vets know it's loving stupid to dress/act this way

We're adapting.

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

Krinkle posted:

Aw jeeze. He can't close his left eye. And it moves independently of the right one. Jesus christ. I can't make fun of him for his face anymore. I'm a monster.

Probably you're not a monster for making fun of him before you knew.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Krinkle posted:

Aw jeeze. He can't close his left eye. And it moves independently of the right one. Jesus christ. I can't make fun of him for his face anymore. I'm a monster.

he would fit right in at Innsmouth

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Azathoth posted:

Legit question, isn't there plastic surgery that can at least bring him back somewhere closer to normal?

From that video, he's clearly got a whole bunch of damage underneath too, but I'd figure that there'd be a surgeon who could figure out a way to make him not look like a still photo of a boxer getting punched in the face.

I dunno, it's likely extensive nerve damage that caused the eye issues at least.
My old man had a tumor removed some years back, but they told him they did not know the extent of nerve damage would happen and it was irreversible. to this day the right side of his face "droops" and he has no control over the right side of his mouth or eye.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

red19fire posted:

For stolen valor animals, it's not enough to be an admin clerk, mechanic, bulk fuel specialist, or any of the support roles that make up 95% of the military, that's why the almost universally claim to be some kind of high speed black ops murder machine, because they want to be the star of the show. Stomping the guts out of these scumbags should be considered the moral imperative of every citizen.

I remember reading a gip post about a super Fake Internet Tough Guy, that was like "dude if you just pretended to be a desk jockey and grumbled vaguely about how officers are poo poo nobody would notice or care, but no you had to be ELITE SNIPER MARINE HUT HUT"

I just can't really wrap my head around being that level of tryhard pretend tough. Like dude your forearms will snap at the slightest impact, you're not fooling anybody.

Yinlock has issued a correction as of 18:57 on Sep 24, 2016

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Eonwe posted:

he would fit right in at Innsmouth

occupy deep water horizon

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Jumpingmanjim posted:

The defence portion of this trial will be a total shitshow.

I mean what the gently caress is their "defense"? do they even have lawyers or are the bundys going for retard and self defending?


Also, where are all the Lavoy getting "wasted" clips(the ones that parody rockstar/GTA games)

Fiend
Dec 2, 2001

CaptainSarcastic posted:

I've always liked the idea of bringing back exile as a punishment. Strip them of citizenship and banish them from the country. Not sure where they could be sent, but at least it wouldn't be here.

Give them what they lack and conscript them.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Dapper_Swindler posted:

I mean what the gently caress is their "defense"? do they even have lawyers or are the bundys going for retard and self defending?


Also, where are all the Lavoy getting "wasted" clips(the ones that parody rockstar/GTA games)

Several of them have hired lawyers, one has a public defender and Ryan Bundy is representing himself with a court-appointed lawyer advising him. (He is not listening to his court-apppointed lawyer.) I imagine that the public defender will be trying to allege federal misconduct.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Azathoth posted:

Legit question, isn't there plastic surgery that can at least bring him back somewhere closer to normal?

From that video, he's clearly got a whole bunch of damage underneath too, but I'd figure that there'd be a surgeon who could figure out a way to make him not look like a still photo of a boxer getting punched in the face.

But then he would have less money to buy guns with, which is obviously a more important goal.

Murderion
Oct 4, 2009

2019. New York is in ruins. The global economy is spiralling. Cyborgs rule over poisoned wastes.

The only time that's left is
FUN TIME

Captain_Maclaine posted:

I believe they also broke it somehow during their digging of the shittrench, or possibly when they failed in an attempt to construct earthworks.

A bit back, but weren't they trying to dig earthworks in the Harney basin, slap bang in the middle of a bowl valley with no control over higher ground? All the battlefield experience I have is from the Total War series, and even I know that wouldn't stop an enemy armed with anything more threatening than a pointy stick.

Forget the FBI, 18th century redcoats could have taken that place. :britain:

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Fiend posted:

Give them what they lack and conscript them.

I mean at the same time as they fetishize the military they also have serious problems with authority so this would just wind up getting a lot of random officers fragged probably

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Eonwe posted:

he would fit right in at Innsmouth

Aw come on let's not mock the guy's tragic face deformity too much when he's got entirely self-inflicted tragic mind deformities by the dozens here :smith:

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Mors Rattus posted:

Several of them have hired lawyers, one has a public defender and Ryan Bundy is representing himself with a court-appointed lawyer advising him. (He is not listening to his court-apppointed lawyer.) I imagine that the public defender will be trying to allege federal misconduct.

The PD appears to be trying to paint the occupation as nonviolent protest. He might stands almost a ghost of a chance if he didn't have to deal with the other lawyers, several of whom are right-fringe types.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Discendo Vox posted:

The PD appears to be trying to paint the occupation as nonviolent protest. He might stands almost a ghost of a chance if he didn't have to deal with the other lawyers, several of whom are right-fringe types.

What's the legal definition of "violence" then, because they basically took property and barred people from areas they needed to be. Like does it have to [intend to] inflict defined, physical damage?

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

What's the legal definition of "violence" then, because they basically took property and barred people from areas they needed to be. Like does it have to [intend to] inflict defined, physical damage?

Oh, it's not a legal defense- it's a hung jury defense. He's hoping one juror will get confused about the law in question, or becomes sympathetic to the Bundys. de facto nullification. In practice, though, the prosecution has so much clear evidence that makes the Bundies look like dicks, it wouldn't work even if the other attorneys weren't clowns.

Discendo Vox has issued a correction as of 20:51 on Sep 24, 2016

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!

Dapper_Swindler posted:

I mean what the gently caress is their "defense"? do they even have lawyers or are the bundys going for retard and self defending?

Camping
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:smug:

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

So what are the charges on the different defendants? Are they different? Can they be convicted of lesser crimes, like murder > manslaughter or however that works?

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NecroBob
Jul 29, 2003

Discendo Vox posted:

Oh, it's not a legal defense- it's a hung jury defense. He's hoping one juror will get confused about the law in question, or becomes sympathetic to the Bundys. de facto nullification. In practice, though, the prosecution has so much clear evidence that makes the Bundies look like dicks, it wouldn't work even if the other attorneys weren't clowns.

I'm not a lawyer, but wouldn't a hung jury just result in another trial, and so on, until a definitive guilty/not guilty was reached, or until the prosecutor just said "gently caress it, nevermind"?

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